90's Japanese sports cars and aging

[mehrshadvr4]

3000gt rear is the most boring looking rear of all other cars. Can't believe me. Look at the rear of other car with no spoiler. I don't know why Mitsubishi made beautiful lines all over the car and then left the rear just plain with no character.

[NOMIEZVR4]

Yeah its sort of flat but I think it still looks great though...

[Jeremy C]

when I get a chance ill post a pic of the FD and my vr4...He's got 2..one with Petitt flares and another with a stock body...

Only pic I have at the moment...

An FD tires that wide in the back scares me. Only because I know they wouldn't be there if they weren't needed...

And as for the rear: Yeah, the 3000GT has a pretty "meh" rear on it. The Supra tails are by far my favorite. They're probably the most exciting part of the car to me. That isn't to say that a race with just about any Supra would end with me staring at the tail lights (though I would), just that I think they look good. FD's I feel the same. I did the best I could with an arc spoiler swap, 99 center garnish, and GTO tails to at least break things up some.

That's one of the few things the 3S has over any of the other cars: We have factory options to swap around parts to make the car look the way we want. None of the others changed at all, we have lots of parts to swap to make the car look the way we want without having to resort to aftermarket bits.

[Jeremy C]

3/S is too numb for me to enjoy driving anymore. Took the 98 down the street the other day since Todd complained it was making an odd noise around 55mph. Of course it was silent when i drove it. Not my car so didnt go very far. But the steering feels as boosted as my trucks is compared to my FD. The FD doesnt even have that great of steering compared to an older M3. But the car is so alive vs a 3/S which is why i enjoy it so much more since i enjoy the drive. Supra is predictably boring and well engineered. Like all toyotas of that era.(and Toyota in general). The 300zx while visually unappealing does have the appeal of being made with higher quality materials than a 3/S is. So they are aging better in that respect.

Jason

You know what's funny there: my lowly as fuck SVT Focus has far better steering feel than the 3S. I didn't think the 3S felt bad until I drove the Focus for a while then switched back, then I felt just how overly boosted it is. You really feel it once you can compare. And no, I know better to think that Focus has anything on a proper right wheel drive steering setup.

[AdamVR4]

This thread is severely short on pictures.

The RX7 has recently grown on me. I really think they're beautiful now and after driving the FR-S so much, I really want one. From a looks perspective, the RX7, Supra and 3S are all interchangeable for me. My ranking of the 3 varies with my mood and the viewing angle... The 300ZX needs body modifications to compete.

[AdamVR4]

You know what's funny there: my lowly as fuck SVT Focus has far better steering feel than the 3S. I didn't think the 3S felt bad until I drove the Focus for a while then switched back, then I felt just how overly boosted it is. You really feel it once you can compare. And no, I know better to think that Focus has anything on a proper right wheel drive steering setup.

Is it that the steering wheel is too large or that the power steering just provides too much mechanical advantage or that you have to physically turn the wheel too much to turn the car or all of the above..? I feel like those can be remedied if you really cared.

I thought this thread was about looks

[stealthify]

In the looks department, I agree on all accounts. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that thinks the 300ZX has aged well (except Jalopnik, apparently?). Just looking at the photo of the Z Adam posted, it instantly takes me back to the early 90's and a design style that was the product of growing pains from the late 80's Foxbody/IROC-Z era with a Japanese twist.

Then again, when I see a clean 300ZX in-person, I'm usually pleasantly surprised. It's always been one of those cars I appreciated more in person than I did in the photos.

[Ange]

This thread is severely short on pictures.

The RX7 has recently grown on me. I really think they're beautiful now and after driving the FR-S so much, I really want one. From a looks perspective, the RX7, Supra and 3S are all interchangeable for me. My ranking of the 3 varies with my mood and the viewing angle... The 300ZX needs body modifications to compete.

added 1g for reference

[Jeremy C]

Is it that the steering wheel is too large or that the power steering just provides too much mechanical advantage or that you have to physically turn the wheel too much to turn the car or all of the above..? I feel like those can be remedied if you really cared.

I thought this thread was about looks

I was only replying to a post, I can derail a little.

To answer, I think it would be a mixture of mechanical advantage and steering ratio as you mentioned, along with not enough feedback coming through the wheel.

And kudos on the pictures! I supposed I should have done that, but figured everyone would know what each of those cars looked like by now.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

I think 300zx can look pretty modern with a little bit of work. 3000gt on the other hand need a major makeover to make that rear modern.

The main thing to update is the tails to 99's.