Why is nobody installing the nelson engine mount?

[Checkered vr4]

not as extensive as it should have been for a part of this nature which has to be extremely precise. that being said i would have no problem using this in any fwd 3s application. going back to drive line angle.. 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center nelson admits that his plate raises the the front power-train slightly and angles it to help oil get to the sump which may be true but overlooks driveline angle which is very important to the lifespan of cardan joints,bushings and mainly the reduction of driveline vibrations.

-matt

I'm guessing that anyone who is concerned about a difference in oiling should also not accelerate, decelerate, turn, or let their engine idle unless they can confirm the car is parked on perfectly level ground.
The change in driveline angle seems to work out just fine for me
SHO vs VR - YouTube

[J. Fast]

LOL... Looks like it works fine.

[mehrshadvr4]

No, it's not. There's a reason the front and rear mounts are called 'roll stopper mounts'. There's a reason the side mounts are 2x ad big, and attached directly to the frame rail. There's a reason you can remove the sub frame entirely and have the engine still be supported in the car. The front and rear mounts wear out faster because they're smaller and they're tasked with arresting the motion of the engine.

It's common sense. "The little ones carry the weight and the big ones are just along for the ride". Does that seriously make sense to you?



No, it's not supported by the rear. It's supported by those two brackets on either side of the k-frame, AND the transmission mount.

They mount the plates on frame because they can. In our case we don't have that option. Also the side mounts are bigger because there is more room for bigger ones and it let the mount have more room to play when flexing. When you want to upgrade the mount to solid you will need to do both front and rear and you can leave the sides as is. If you only upgrade the sides to solid and leave the front and back stock you'll break the trans or maybe even engine block because the side mounts are not design or located in right location to take that abuse.

About U join Have you guys seen solid read axle cars? They usually have two piece drive shaft which is about the same length as each individual piece of our shafts and they travel well beyond 1/4 inch when the car is moving and yet they don't have any vibration problem when the car's heights changes. Only extremely lifted trucks will face issue with drive shaft angles.

[mb3000]

The DS and PS mounts support the entire weight of the engine/transmission/transfer case. Front and rear mounts stop the engine/trans/xcase from moving under operation. Easiest way to see this is in a stock domestic truck/suv with a v8 revving up in neutral. Turn it 90deg. and that's our engine, and that is what the front & rear mounts are designed to stop. 3sx also has a nice video of this, I believe the customer had very poor condition factory mounts:

For some reason I read this- "itz gud enuff for nelson it gud enuff fer yu!" in some kind of Scottish accent.

As far as the mount goes, the real input that's important here would be from those who have used and are using the plate currently. I do agree that the right amount of R&D wasn't put into it. But I understand the concept was to make it easier and to help clean things up.

Think more Canadian with the stereotypical hint of French.

[AdamVR4]

When I say 'gud' I always picture this guy:

[mehrshadvr4]

If the engine is supported just by the sides only then not sure what the problem is here. Where you run solid mounts you support the engine by all 4 . I got a very easy answer. If you don't think it's good idea to put it then don't. Very simple . I'm very happy with my purchase and I'm going to take full advantage of it.

[Boomer3000]

When I say 'gud' I always picture this guy:

ah, see I was getting this

[J. Fast]

The only thing I want to know about this plate is what provisions are in place to offset the removal of the dynamic dampeners on transmission and engine? Where does the vibration travel when its not being dampened? What is working itself loose?

[Jeff V.]

WTF are you talking about? The transmission never had a 'dynamic dampener' and the little POS on the engine mount was deleted when they changed to aluminum in '94.

[Primus101]

The only thing I want to know is would there be any ill effects from running the clutch disc farther out on the unsupported input shaft, and the offset of the trans on the axles? Do you shim the pivot ball for the fork?
The engine cover plate is what, 0.080?(just a guess) That gone, the offset on the trans/clutch disc would be .170"-