Official 2013 NFL Discussion Thread

[IPD]

Manning doesnt play well in the big games. Brady does unless he was getting manhandled by NYG pass rush. Eli is the better post season QB by far between the two Mannings. Hes actually of recent, better than Brady when it really came down do it.

Oh and LOL RG3 is awful.

Jason

i can't fault peyton for the underachievements of vanderjagt. i also can't fault him too directly for his performance. the truth is, defense wins games--especially super bowls. ask the raiders how the #1 offense worked out against the former dungee bucs. peyton's performance in "the big games" is--imho--largely due to a lackluster defense giving it up more than a thai hooker. when your D lets the opponent score willy-nilly, you end up in a "must-score" situation for your offense. this puts additional and un-necessary pressure on your QB, which--in turn--can often generate turnovers because he's having to make riskier plays.

for example, look at how the colts would play with a defensive playmaker like Bob Sanders was actually healthy. the colts were dramatically better when the likes of Harper, June, Freeny and Sanders were all healthy and playing 100%. pushing any QB to compensate for an injured or underperforming defense is a sure-fire method for losing a big game. it may work in a high-scoring shootout victory in the regular season...but not in the post-season.

same thing applies to KC. chargers should not have won that game--especially after all the blunders they made. unfortunately, alex smith--who is a middle-of-the-pack QB--can't compensate for a severely compromised D. Brad Johnson isn't a QB of legend by any means...yet he was all that the bucs needed to edge out the raiders--thanks to a very good defense.

and the one thing that Brady has had behind him for his entire career...is a good defense. Dan Marino would be the greatest QB of all time by a country mile if he'd had any quality defense behind him for the duration of his career.

[93STLTH]

peyton's performance in "the big games" is--imho--largely due to a lackluster defense giving it up more than a thai hooker. when your D lets the opponent score willy-nilly, you end up in a "must-score" situation for your offense. this puts additional and un-necessary pressure on your QB, which--in turn--can often generate turnovers because he's having to make riskier plays.

You've just perfectly discribed why RGIII is failing this year. A historically bad defense and a clueless D-coordinator means the offense needs to score 35 points to have a chance at winning. The John Mara imposed salary cap hit of 18 mil each of the past 2 seasons meant they couldn't afford to sign any free agents to make the team better.

[IPD]

chiefs are looking great in the 1st half. 108 yard return? 2x interceptions against one of the best QB's of all time? oh yeah.

[CoreyB]

Don't get too excited.

[IPD]

Don't get too excited.

yeah. unfortunately, my team doesn't bass-ackwards luck into every other victory. i stopped watching with ~1:50 left on the clock.

damn shame...but what i expected. WAY too many dropped passes today. even still, the O looked improved over previous games.

[Mikes2nd]

Compared to the other qb's available in the draft? I think the Jets did very well snagging him in the 2nd round. For quite a while in the season last year, Geno was forecasted as the #1 overall pick. He will develop.

Jeremy

Y! SPORTS

sorry the Geno Smith experiment is over... So is the Terrell Pryor experiment, it was a nice run but they probably shouldn't even be third string backups. I would put Troy Smith in before either of them.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Y! SPORTS

sorry the Geno Smith experiment is over... So is the Terrell Pryor experiment, it was a nice run but they probably shouldn't even be third string backups. I would put Troy Smith in before either of them.

LOL, no way you read that article. What you quoted of me is a paraphrase of the sentiment in the article.

Most everyone wanted to see Geno sit for a year and learn. But, it didn't go that way(because the Jets are terrible as usual), so he's thrust from the frying pan and right into the fire.

Jeremy

[R/T93]

Lol Saints looked like Jacksonville last night.

From the phone.

[stealthee]

LOL, no way you read that article. What you quoted of me is a paraphrase of the sentiment in the article.

Most everyone wanted to see Geno sit for a year and learn. But, it didn't go that way(because the Jets are terrible as usual), so he's thrust from the frying pan and right into the fire.

Jeremy

Troll Mike is troll.

[IPD]

Mike Tomlin hop likely to yield downgrade for officials - NFL.com

oh look. tomlin taking a page out of the jets playbook.