R-34 vs. z16

[IPD]

I've been hearing a lot about R-34's being able to be imported soon, due to the age of the car. I'm kinda scratching my head though. There's a LOT of adoration for the GT-R out there, almost as much as there is hate for the GTO. Both cars were twin-turbocharged, twin-intercooled, AWD and AWS. They are far more alike than dissimilar. Is it just a novelty thing in the USA? It's like some people think that the transverse engine in a GTO (and the transfer case) somehow results in a 50% drivetrain loss. And the GTO has .4L more displacement.

Anyone?

[R/T93]

They are rare. That is the allure.

Import a GT500 mustang into Japan or Europe and see the looks you will get.

R34 also had actual technology into their drivetrains rather than the stuff designed in 1989 they stuffed into 3/S's.

[keo92stealth]

The gtr is far superior imo . If I had the chance to own one , I would .

[Ange]

Guess people think the 3s looks more ricy. Also the weight of the 3s is always complained about. The GTR weighs 450-1000 lbs less from factory depending on year model. Also the fact that the GTR can change from awd to 2wd makes it more attractive to drifters.

But yeah the 3s has alot of undeserved bad rep.

[mehrshadvr4]

Guess people think the 3s looks more ricy. Also the weight of the 3s is always complained about. The GTR weighs 450-1000 lbs less from factory depending on year model. Also the fact that the GTR can change from awd to 2wd makes it more attractive to drifters.

But yeah the 3s has alot of undeserved bad rep.

what GTR was 1000lbs lighter than vr4? the r32 was the lightest and that was about 300-400lbs lighter. the GTR is a legend in japan. all the way before even r32 comes in to play let alon gto because of the races it had won. i think the weight of GTO has something to do with it and the fact that mitsubishi pretty much never put the gto in any race vs nissan put the gtr in all kind of races it could get in to. the r34 was faster because of more power it made and had better suspension setup for track and awd system and aero for more downforce. also only r32 you can switch to rwd with out damagin anything. a lot of people don't know it ,but GTO stock to stock was faster than all r32 gtrs and was neck and neck with r33 gtr in tsukuba track .but gtr never had brake fading like gto had because of it was built for track vs mitsubishi to make a car to make money out of. Nissan came up with even faster cars like V versions,nurburgring, z-tune,and 400r and such to keep it up there. nissan did a great job supporting the GTR where mitsubishi didn't give a damn about advancing the GTO beside making it prettier so they can sell more. the aftermarket support on GTRs is crazy, but it's not cheap to make them fast.plus it has inline 6 where a lot of tuners believed were the best for tuning vs v6.they believed in that till the new gtr which is a v6 and it's the only v6 in the market that's getting so much support. the 300zx didn't get as much support because of that i believe, but the engine wasn't there anyway. it has only 8 main bolts so of course it wouldn't hold power reliably. the 6g72 had shitty crank to hold power as well. people trashed main bearings with only 700-800whp, but now with the availability of stronger crank it can be very reliable but we still lack support in some area to make it maximum reliable in high power levels.

[keo92stealth]

^ I agree . The .gtr r32 is the lightest . Think its like 3200 or something close also your right about the gtr and how it dominated the circuit racing it was involved in . Won it for years and years in a row . The gtr had aftermarket support from day one and still does. Where as nobody gives 2 shits about the gto in japan . Just look at the old high performance import volume videos from back in the 90s and look at the drag racing and so on . I have never seen a gto out there . Not once . But yea when it comes to building one properly , it's just as much as a supra price wise . Costs you a arm and leg.

But I thought that all the gtrs had that 2wd feature . Only 4wd when u need it . Because I meet a dude that had one. He said once the tires in rear broke lose , it would throw some power to the front to try to get traction .

[IPD]

3/s is ricey? yikes. that's exactly what i've always thought about the gtr's. and yes, stock for stock; year to year, the gto was quicker.

i wouldn't say mitsubishi neglected it though. they did make the mr's.

[Ange]

3/s is ricey? yikes. that's exactly what i've always thought about the gtr's. and yes, stock for stock; year to year, the gto was quicker.

i wouldn't say mitsubishi neglected it though. they did make the mr's.

I don't think they are. Just heard other people say it.

A problem with the 3s these days is that they are so cheap, some people will buy them and make cheap tasteless mods.

[whitedragon]

I would rock an R32, R33 or R34 so hard, I just might die from it.

[R/T93]

3/s is ricey? yikes. that's exactly what i've always thought about the gtr's. and yes, stock for stock; year to year, the gto was quicker.

i wouldn't say mitsubishi neglected it though. they did make the mr's.

They made the mr. Ok so... drop aws, MAYBE you got the sport wheels and the brakes. Thats all a z15 is. Oh. Brake deflectors.
All the gtr factory sport versions were full upgrades rather than just a few extra parts.

So compared to Nissan the GTO was neglected in factory aftermarket support.

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