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3000GT to Stealth RT(/TT) sail panel conversion
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Thats badass man! I dont get why people go from the Stealth sails to the 3000GT?
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because the 3kgt ones provide less drag?
good work, man. still need to get this done on my car. haven't found a matching set of base windows though. (i don't want the "DOHC" and other stuff on there.)
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^meh, at what speed is this drag noticeable?
Grats on the conversion, looks like a cheaper alternative to 99s.
Did you change interior panels as well? I've always wanted to try 3000 panels becuase the stealths tend to warp because of the large window opening. I thought it might work if I blacked out the glass portion you cannot see through the 3000 trim.
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Originally Posted by
Gamerse
^meh, at what speed is this drag noticeable?
Grats on the conversion, looks like a cheaper alternative to 99s.
Did you change interior panels as well? I've always wanted to try 3000 panels becuase the stealths tend to warp because of the large window opening. I thought it might work if I blacked out the glass portion you cannot see through the 3000 trim.
you'd end up with a massive blind spot. and the 3kgt interior trim doesn't resist warping because it's smaller; it resists warping because there's a hard-plastic trim-ring around the opening. for some inexplicable reason, stealth trim doesn't have this.
p.s.
no way this is cheaper than 99 sails. 99 sails only require the exterior sail piece. this requires interior panels, exterior sails, and the glass that goes with it all. not to mention the work that you have to do.
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Originally Posted by
Mr Faust
Thats badass man! I dont get why people go from the Stealth sails to the 3000GT?
I haven't really seen any Stealth -> 3000GT sail conversions, they need a lot more work and cost a LOT more if they're done properly - window and interior trim panels are probably on par for same cost, but the sail panels (assuming that they're going '99) cost a helluva lot more. Not to mention they need the interior triangle piece where the Stealth window is.
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Originally Posted by
IPD
because the 3kgt ones provide less drag?
good work, man. still need to get this done on my car. haven't found a matching set of base windows though. (i don't want the "DOHC" and other stuff on there.)
It was a pretty damn easy conversion, the window cutting took the most time. I'd highly recommend getting some piano wire for it, none of the pictures on the wiki entry for this conversion were loading when I did it (a few days after the fact they were re-hosted) and it will make the job even easier.
Just for the sake of curiosity, are the numbers anywhere on the aerodynamics of the stealth sails vs 3000GT sails? (wind tunnel?)
I wanted windows that said "DOHC 24v" etc., but sadly mine also advertise All Wheel Drive, which I (again, sadly) do not have. I guess I'll just have to make the conversion sometime...You'll probably have an easiest time looking for the blank windows on ebay o_O
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Originally Posted by
Gamerse
^meh, at what speed is this drag noticeable?
Grats on the conversion, looks like a cheaper alternative to 99s.
Did you change interior panels as well? I've always wanted to try 3000 panels becuase the stealths tend to warp because of the large window opening. I thought it might work if I blacked out the glass portion you cannot see through the 3000 trim.
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Originally Posted by
IPD
you'd end up with a massive blind spot. and the 3kgt interior trim doesn't resist warping because it's smaller; it resists warping because there's a hard-plastic trim-ring around the opening. for some inexplicable reason, stealth trim doesn't have this.
p.s.
no way this is cheaper than 99 sails. 99 sails only require the exterior sail piece. this requires interior panels, exterior sails, and the glass that goes with it all. not to mention the work that you have to do.
I wouldn't at all say cheaper, I managed to get lucky and strike a deal on the sail panels, the windows and the interior trim pieces for $275 shipped. Right now on 3SX 99 sails are starting at $288.95 (for red and black, $308.95 for white and $318.95 for green) and that's without shipping. Had I not luck boxed my way into that deal it would have been $325 or so for everything.
I actually didn't know that about the Stealth sails until mine arrived, one is slightly warped in the middle above the window - I was shocked to see that it wasn't hard plastic like my 3000GT window trim was. I'm going to have to find some way to put in some form of a rib or something to keep it straight, I don't need or want my (soon to be) "nicely" put-together car to have warped interior panels.
Time to go finish painting...the passenger side door and Celica mirrors are all that remain.
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i have some celica mirrors i don't need. lighted turns & all. i plan on using the ones jparker has, if he ever gets around to shipping.
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I have a set of non-turbo R/T windows sitting here. If anyone was interested.
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i have one. and one base. trying to get 2 base.
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It depends on where you are buying parts, the larger pull apart places (from what I have seen in TN) will let you out under $200 for all things needed (minus adhesives and paint). I've been to a couple smaller yards, (the ones you have to bring your own anti-venom and first aid kit to) that would let me have all that for about $100-150.00 To them, the only thing worth money is the glass, how many people have/are going to replace sail panels due to accident damage?
My estimate of cheaper was based on rarity (and region apparently). There are how many stealth R/Ts in junk yards with the same sail panels from 91-96 VS 99 3000gt? As for why the stealth has warped interrior trim panels, it is chryslers styling department in conjunction with poor engineering. They did the same thing with the dodge daytona, elongated quarter windows, and every one of them that has seen 60K miles without window tint has warped interior trim. I never use those windows for anything, ever, I can't see crap out of them to begin with, it is why I have those goofy stick on mirrors. I was just curious if the 3000 inside trim still physically fits. I like the way they look better as well.
I've seen a couple stealths converted from stealth sails to 99 3000gt on their 99 conversions. Its their car though, more power to them.
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i hate the fake window & the reduced visibility on the 3kgt sails.