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looks like everyone says megans are the best bang for the buck but, is it just the price that people dont like about the teins or ride quality? im triing to decide between the tein and megans coilovers, comfort is number one issue.
so if money was no object, would people get the teins or, is the ride quality from the megans worth sacrificing the in car ride adjustment ability?
Neither. Go Bilsteins.
DG
I role the TEIN Flex Coils and I absolutely love them. Yeah they're stiff but they're supposed to be. Corners great, absorbs shock really good, just overall a great suspension IMO.
I have teins and they handle great, but not a very good ride on bad roads. I haven't messed with adjusting them though. If comfort is the number one issue, stay stock- it's not a terrible setup and it rides nice.
if you have ECS suspension keep it, repair if necessary.
if you have non ECS suspension seek for replacement
Megans. The price is right and the ride is not that harsh compared to other setups.
love the stock setup but hate the 4+ inch gap above my tire.Quote:
Originally Posted by mb7050
What about the ECS with tein s-tech spring option? I hear good things about that, and that's what I'm going with. Have had the springs for 2yrs now, and just getting around to installing them soon.
thats where this all started i was triing to decide on the h or s tein springs but i dont mind spending the cash for the best. my dream is to convince taanabe to make me a set of 7's with their auto matic adjuster(like teins). it has the abilty to stiffen the springs when car is accelerating. imagine a comfy ride and when you punch it, the springs stiffin more and more as car accelerates. been told no but i usually dont give up till ive heard no a few times,lol.
One of mine had Tein coilovers. I've driven next to cars with Megans. While they almost hit there heads on the roof on bumps, mine was livable. Same road, same speed..
I'm not familiar with how Megans adjust damper.. it's possible their settings were maxed out stiff? I always kept mine middle of the road.
I've never daily driven a 3s but I wouldn't recommend any coilover for that application.
If someone was bouncing, then they didn't have the car setup right. I had zero bounce. Ask Hans, ask Lou they both rode in it.
Money is an object though. How much do you want to spend? Replace ECS 100% and put on springs with a similar rate and have it sit lower costs around $1200. JIC and KW will cost $2000. A custom built setup which will be superior to any coilover will cost the same. BTW people... $900 Megans are not a performance upgrade, they're for looks as many shock dyno results have proven .Quote:
Originally Posted by gltasn
As far as the TEIN systems, by the time you implement an edfc your around $2000 aswell. May aswell have a pro suspension shop build a custom setup for you if you're going to drop that kind of loot.
There's also a custom programmable stock ECS controller out there too :suspect:
I agree with DG and would take his advice man. He knows more about suspension dynamics than anyone on any board you will probably ever meet, even the 3s and DSM legends.
Didn't think Bilsteins made anything for a 3S. Has that changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by DG
the s-techs and bilstein hd's are a good match. Very comfortable, sporty dampening, like a performance gt car should drive.
Make sure you trim the internal bumpstops on the fronts.
I got a set of megans and was not very happy. Shortly thereafter I got a set of NEXX coilovers for my celica and I liked those MUCH better. They were firm but more driveable.
I took a chance and got some 3000gt NEXX coilovers and I enjoy the ride much more than my megans.
Not trying to sell you these as the best, more of just trying to explain my experience with Megans
Just installed my megans on my NA. 15 clicks up front and 12 clicks from the top out back. Yet to get an alignment or adjust anything (back is sitting a bit lower than anticipated), but I like it so far, at least for the price.
Anyone try BC coilovers yet?
DG I follow a lot of the posts you make, and you seem very knowledgeable. If I were to go with Bilsteins is there a way i can get adjustable height? I really need to be able to bring the car back up to stock-ish height in the winter, and would like not have to swap suspension every 6 mo.
There is a thread on here where he explains what to get and what to do just for what you are asking.
Here is the thread, you will have to skim through it to find all the info, but it is there...
http://www.3sgto.org/f17/megan-racin...rive-3478.html
Thanks man. Ill read up on that thread.
I thought you guys were talking about these?
Ralli Art 3000GT - BILSTEIN SUSPENSION TUNING
Megan coilovers have some weird spring rates if you ask me. 12k/8k Front/Rear. I've seen a couple Teins crack the strut mount before. KW don't come with upper strut mounts. BC are only available in Japan. Bilsteins sound awesome.. the price tag is quite hefty though.
ECS with intrax ftw. Wasn't one of the choices but it's my choice. Drop isn't too severe and the ECS stays somewhat functional.