How-To: Push Button Start

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11-23-2010, 04:52 PM
blindmist

How-To: Push Button Start

DISCLAIMER: I ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT YOU DO OR WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR CAR. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I HAVE YET TO FIND ANY PROBLEMS WITH DOING THIS MODIFICATION. PM ME FOR QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS YOU HAVE RUN INTO.

1. Locate the Ignition wires under the dash. It is a blue and white connector and looks hard to take apart.

2. Find the White wire (Battery 12v)

3. Find the Black w/ yellow stripe (Start)

4. Splice wires into both of those wires.

5. Put the key in the "On" position and touch the wires together (i got a thrill at this point and felt like a theif) to make sure that you have good enough contacts on the splice.

This is for hooking it up to the ECS button because I know most of everyone here has changed their suspension and doesnt use the ECS button anymore, therefore leaving ECS to stand for Electric Controlled Start. :)

6. Take out the screws that hold the front bezel in place and pull it out.

7. Unplug the connector that hooks into the ECS switch.

8. CUT, do not leave attached (we dont want power running back down the wires), the red and black wire that are on the bottom of the connector.

9. Connect the wires that are running from the ignition wires to the red and black wires.

10. Put it all back together, put the key in the "On" position, and push the button to start the car.

http://www.stealth316.com/images/wiring-ign-switch.gif

I had this posted on the other site, I keep getting requests for it so now it is here. I will take some pictures either today or tomorrow.
11-23-2010, 05:00 PM
Atrosity

I think you can still start the car normally too can't you?
11-23-2010, 05:01 PM
blindmist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atrosity

I think you can still start the car normally too can't you?

Correct. It just for fun mainly.
11-23-2010, 10:13 PM
Bluejediz

I have a question! How could you wire up the button to blink when the key is first turned to on but stop blinking when started??
11-23-2010, 10:36 PM
blindmist

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Originally Posted by Bluejediz

I have a question! How could you wire up the button to blink when the key is first turned to on but stop blinking when started??

You would have to run it off of the battery light that goes to the dash or have a switch that loses its ground when the alternator is putting out a charge. There would also have to be a controller to make the LED blink.
11-24-2010, 01:24 AM
GTOX

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindmist

This is for hooking it up to the ECS button because I know most of everyone here has changed their suspension and doesnt use the ECS button anymore, therefore leaving ECS to stand for Electric Controlled Start. :)

Haha love it.
11-24-2010, 01:24 AM
arthur92710

How about implanting an RFID into your hand and starting the car with that?
11-24-2010, 02:08 AM
dpartinvr4

I still want to wire everything to my EX-active aero switch, it's perfect, a three way rocker with spring back on one side, Off/ACC/Start
11-24-2010, 03:29 AM
blindmist

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpartinvr4

I still want to wire everything to my EX-active aero switch, it's perfect, a three way rocker with spring back on one side, Off/ACC/Start

I am looking into that...

Edit: I would DEFINITELY NOT suggest using the Active Aero. You would have to gut the entire switch out. Also, I think that you will also lose power to the cigarette lighter, cruise control switch, and an AT control module on the 94 and newer unless you rewired the harness.

http://imgur.com/V0heY.jpg
11-24-2010, 03:50 AM
blindmist

Quote:

Originally Posted by arthur92710

How about implanting an RFID into your hand and starting the car with that?

I have had this idea. I even had a vet that was willing to put one in my wrist. The only issue, you have to take the wheel lock out of the key cylinder, or remove the key cylinder all together, therefore making your car a lot easier to steal.
11-24-2010, 07:06 AM
OhioSpyderman

One word of caution here....

I would check to see how much current is drawn when that switch is pressed and make sure the switch is rated for that current.

A "cool" push button FIRE is....well....not cool...

Bob. :)
11-24-2010, 01:38 PM
blindmist

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioSpyderman

One word of caution here....

I would check to see how much current is drawn when that switch is pressed and make sure the switch is rated for that current.

A "cool" push button FIRE is....well....not cool...

Bob. :)

Yeah, already did that. You can sit there and hold that button for 20s and the wires never get hot. Tested that shit to make sure back in 2005. I am pretty damn good with electrical. Even off of scotch locks.
11-24-2010, 01:44 PM
Sin'sVr4

will this help me with my click click start? My ign switch is done, and hoping to bypass it with the push button start?
11-24-2010, 01:47 PM
Sin'sVr4

So, if I leave the key in the on position, and do the push button, it should bypass the ign switch issue right?
11-24-2010, 01:51 PM
Roybatty

There is a "relay" solution to the click click click start on the other site; something about the voltage to the solenoid on the starter. Sorry about referencing the other site; but I am unsure how that information is to migrate here.

Its not hard to do, but this did not resolve the issue I had so I removed it, mine was the starter relay itself; I wasn't getting any clicks so should have realized this sooner.
11-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Sin'sVr4

mine clicks with no start :( no matter how many times I try
11-24-2010, 01:58 PM
Sin'sVr4

oh btw, the push button seems less complicated and I dont really like the idea of running extra relays on my car.
11-24-2010, 02:13 PM
Atrosity

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3133/photocm.jpg

This is what I use for my car in terms of push start, the other switches goes to fans and sprayer.
11-24-2010, 02:49 PM
blindmist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin'sVr4

oh btw, the push button seems less complicated and I dont really like the idea of running extra relays on my car.

You can always try, although I believe the originating issue isn't with the key cylinder itself, and that is all this does, is imitate the START position of the key.
11-24-2010, 02:54 PM
Sin'sVr4

ya, but your completely bypassing the entire ign switch
11-24-2010, 03:20 PM
blindmist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin'sVr4

ya, but your completely bypassing the entire ign switch

It is a fairly easy thing to do, the worst thing that could happen if it doesn't fix it is that you now have a push button start available to you. :lol:
11-24-2010, 06:19 PM
Sin'sVr4

can u take a picture of the wires and how you spliced em?
11-24-2010, 07:27 PM
blindmist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin'sVr4

can u take a picture of the wires and how you spliced em?

My VR-4 doesn't have this done to it. I don't have the one that I originally did it to. It is just regular splicing, nothing complicated. I even used scotch clips on one with intentions of going back and redoing it with solder and heat shrink, but never got around to it. It still works and has had 0 issues.
04-07-2014, 01:48 PM
Greg E

If I cut the black wire with a yellow stripe instead of tapping it and feed that directly to the ECS switch, that will disable the START position from the key correct? Any electrical side effects to doing it like this?
04-07-2014, 03:39 PM
Jesters Deadd

If you did that you could only start the car with the button. You couldn't start it with the key anymore. But it looks like that's what you are going for.
04-07-2014, 03:43 PM
Greg E

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesters Deadd

If you did that you could only start the car with the button. You couldn't start it with the key anymore. But it looks like that's what you are going for.

Yep. Just want to make sure it won't start a fire or anything stupid like that.