Noob question, Spark Plug Wire Order

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09-11-2010, 05:41 PM
FeaRpb

Noob question, Spark Plug Wire Order

Alright guys, silly question, but which order do the spark plug wires go onto the coil pack?

Thanks in advance

-Steven
09-11-2010, 05:52 PM
dbest671

Hope this helps... it also helps to know what year/model.

Also, the cylinders are numbered with #1 being the front right (driver's side) and #2 being in the right rear. To it say another way, the front bank is numbered, driver to passenger side (right to left): 1, 3, 5 and the rear bank is numbered, driver to passenger side (right to left): 2, 4, 6. The ignition coil packs are located to the left of the front bank of the engine. There are numbers imprinted on the engine next to the coil-side connectors for the ignition wires indicating to which cylinder each wire is attached. Starting toward the rear of the car, the coil pack connectors are attached to cylinders 1, 4, 2, 5, 3, and 6.
09-11-2010, 07:00 PM
Monster Stealth

Here are some visuals to what dbest stated.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/300479/Jon/igncoil-specs.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/300479/Jon/timing-cylconfig.PNG

edit:To anyone that could not see these pictures before, it looks like currently the board does not support GIF images with the IMG tag, and it took out the JPG one for some reason as well, as soon as I converted the2nd pictures to PNG they both show.
09-11-2010, 07:08 PM
dbest671

^^ I don't see any pictures.

But here is a nice write-up... with pictures http://www.team3s.com/FAQplugs2.htm
09-11-2010, 07:25 PM
Monster Stealth

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Originally Posted by dbest671

^^ I don't see any pictures.

But here is a nice write-up... with pictures http://www.team3s.com/FAQplugs2.htm

Weird, they are linked directly off Jeff's site stealth316 and I am seeing them.
09-11-2010, 08:09 PM
dbest671

Wonder why I cannot see them? I even disable the adblock. What am I doing wrong?

This is what I see...

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/p...23/screen2.jpg
09-11-2010, 08:47 PM
DocWalt

I don't see them either.
09-11-2010, 08:48 PM
jcr5186

I see the same thing dbest sees...wonder whats up?
09-11-2010, 08:52 PM
Monster Stealth

Well, now there are 2 little boxes that have a magnifying glass and when I click on the them they say "loading..." and then nothing. So it must be a site issue at the moment.
09-11-2010, 08:59 PM
nosferatudracon

Yeah...make sure you do this right. Putting them in wrong is what caused me to park my car for three years cause I needed to get a new head
09-11-2010, 09:28 PM
FeaRpb

Thanks for the help guys. I got it all hooked up, but its still not starting.

I guess its finally time to do what I have been planning on doing. Pull the engine.
09-11-2010, 09:51 PM
Monster Stealth

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Originally Posted by FeaRpb

Thanks for the help guys. I got it all hooked up, but its still not starting.

I guess its finally time to do what I have been planning on doing. Pull the engine.

Why do you think pulling the engine is necessary? Have you tested for compression, spark or fuel? Do you have a copy of the service manual, it has quite a few great procedures for testing various components.
09-11-2010, 09:56 PM
FeaRpb

I have checked spark and fuel, I am going to be restoring the car and building it up, so I might as well get a jump start.

And its also more than likely compression but I will be getting a shortblock here in the near future to start building on.
09-11-2010, 11:23 PM
x2xtreme360

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Originally Posted by FeaRpb

Thanks for the help guys. I got it all hooked up, but its still not starting.

I guess its finally time to do what I have been planning on doing. Pull the engine.

There's zero need to pull the engine because it wont start.

Does it crank? Can you crank it by hand? Have you tested power at the starter?

These are all questions you should answer before you go pulling the engine. For all you know, the engine could be perfectly fine but your starting system is bad... then, pulling the engine was a complete waste of time.
09-12-2010, 06:48 AM
FeaRpb

The motor turns, I have push started it, and everything. Honestly, I need to pull it so I can throw in my billet t-case and start my dr-750 build I have been holding back on.
09-12-2010, 11:53 AM
Monster Stealth

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Originally Posted by FeaRpb

The motor turns, I have push started it, and everything. Honestly, I need to pull it so I can throw in my billet t-case and start my dr-750 build I have been holding back on.

You do not need to pull the engine for either of those things. If you planned on pulling the engine and doing a full build up anyways I see your point, but think about it this way. If you assemble a new shortblock, and still have the no start issues you will be trying to fix them on a new engine with zero miles on it. It will be in its most vulnerable state to fuel contamination, washing down the cylinder walls, and not seating the rings. If you track down the issue before you pull the engine, you will be in a much better position.
09-12-2010, 01:59 PM
FeaRpb

Good point.
09-12-2010, 02:46 PM
steve

Please figure out the current problem before adding to it.

If you don't have the FSM (Assuming due to the basic nature of this question), get them! Just download all of this http://www.3sx.com/faq/manuals/

Does the CEL turn on for five seconds or so when you first turn the ignition on? If not the ECU isn't running and nothing interesting is going to happen. The check the compression and spark. Make sure you have fuel and if you have a logger look at the main sensor values, a bad/disconnected ECT sensor will cause the car to flood the engine when you try starting it.