I'm excited, but I'm a corvette guy. I wouldn't buy the first couple years until they figure out the kinks with all that new tech.
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I'm excited, but I'm a corvette guy. I wouldn't buy the first couple years until they figure out the kinks with all that new tech.
https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...-corvette.html
https://media.chevrolet.com/content/...amo-reveal.jpg
If this car doesn't get you excited, you are not a car person. I figured the C8 would be disruptive to the mid-engine sports car market but with a starting price of 60K and 500HP, all I can say is wow.
I think it's only going to get better with the Z06 and ZR1 variants.
Chevy is finally catching up to what Isuzu was going to do 30 years ago. Typical. No wonder GM drove Isuzu out of the US market. Can't have some forward-thinking Japanese brand showing up the bowtie in the USDM market.
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/NV...0r-concept.jpg
350hp and AWD. From all the way back in 1989. Thanks for holding back the performance market for decades, GM.
Agreed with this AND the other postage - I will leave the substance of all of that to you guys.
I am here to pick at the styling - I've posted this elsewhere, but I find this 'sculpted' trend annoying and over-wrought.
When are 'enough' body-lines truly enough?
It looks like too many fingers in the styling-pie, or whomever had the reins went off the fucking rails...to put a finer point on it, I find the horizontal stuff to be conflicted by the rest of it.
Not that I wouldn't test-drive one, but.
I'm just waiting for the straight lines styling fad to end again. That shit should have stayed in the 80s.
Well it's because the curved lines cues of the 90's got old and tired. And automakers needed a way to differentiate new. Goes in cycles, imho. Lots of swoopy/flowy concept or kit cars from the late 60's early 70's, before the angular 80's. Countach was the angular car that really kicked off the 80's styling craze.
Which means only 10-15 years from now we might see a 3s shape back............
God I hope so. I love the 3/s shape. I just can't go back.
Agreed. This car has so much potential to show the world what mass production can do to high end performance car prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Man
I've got my eyes on a 2015 z06 ATX. we'll see when prices get "reasonable".
I have decided that my heart is set on a convertible E-Ray. Hardtop convertible + (estimated) 600 AWHP in a Corvette.
And now I suppose you want to have an extended discussion about the merits of "E", Vette or otherwise.
Talk to me after the election.
The only part of electric that appeals to me is the acceleration and lack of noise. I'm actually trying to get a plug-in motorcycle right now. I've actually thought an AWD vette, camaro or mustang (not the goddamn mach-e) would be nice--and the hardtop being a thing now...is icing on the cake.
But hell, I'll probably be retired by the time I can afford one. Even the regular coupe stingrays are going for 30k over MSRP.
I think the only electric conveyance in my future might be a wheelchair.
Not quite yet, though.
Anyone see they "Accidentally" released the E-Ray on the Corvette configurator?
No official announcement still. Really feels like the E-Ray will be akin to the Grand-Sport. So what if it doesn't have the peak HP of the Z06. I'd rather have the AWD anyways. Put that in a Z06 body with the high-rise wing--and I'll be in heaven.
And by the time they're actually widely available--my finances might finally catch up.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-ray-revealed/
655hp. 590tq. Combined figures for hybrid + LT2 in the Eray. 0-60 in 2.5s.
670hp. 460tq. C8 z06. 0-60 2.6s.
IDGAF if the convertible is 2 tons. AWD, hardtop convertible and 600+ HP was always the dream. The fact it can put down 130+ more TQ than the z06 and nearly as much HP--is delicious. This car is a dream come true. Now all that's left is putting one in my garage. Someday.
I only hope that the seats and ride quality are befitting a grand-tourer.
I can't imagine such a beast.
If I ever even see one, it will be a remarkable event.
Of course, I'm not about to go looking for one, either, so that will be my fault.
You'll have to stand for all manner of video, etc., to furnish the vicarious thrill I expect.
I will give the exhaust note a miss...
Still will have the v8 rumble. It's just with the added benefit of electric power on FWD. Kinda like that guy with the 3/s asking about adding a starter motor to power the front wheels...
You've gone and ruined my comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
You cad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzUvY7GbFvQ
timestamp 4:40 is where he floors it, and the sound is insanity.
I think you like it more than I do, Carlos. :dontknow2:Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
Well the E-Ray goes into full production next month. But the backlog on orders for everything is giving me pause from considering the 2024 model year. And I know it makes no financial sense to buy new. I'm just worried about getting what I WANT, rather than settling for someone else's cast-offs. And then there's the fact that until supply keeps up with demand, there are going to be dealers charging 20+ thousand markup...and I'm not willing to shell out that. Even at MSRP + Tax alone...it would be a $140,000 purchase.
Gripes?
-I'm not sold on the color options. Unless you want Black, Red, Tan or green-grey, you can't get the interior full-color to match (I was really hoping for all-white, ala tesla). If you want White/Grey seats, you get a partial white/partial black interior. Same for Blue.
-There is a transparent interior engine cover option available...but it is more expensive and looks worse than aftermarket.
-There is no transparent HTC available factory--so even with a transparent interior cover--you have to have the HTC open, or you can't see the engine
-Unsurprisingly, this also means that the convertible does not have engine bay lighting like the coupe has available
-GM hasn't seen fit to offer a rally-inspired version; shocking, considering that Lamborghini and Porsche have both done this recently (and I would gladly pay a premium for it). Ultimately that means I will probably have to put a lift kit on it and downsize the rims to the minimum size that fits--so I can put on dirt tires.
-Accelerate yellow is the only color that I'm interested in. I'd take black if I had to. But GM has gone for 4 model years now--and the color choices have been...inane at best. I was really hoping for another Radar Blue (purple) but no dice.
-The graphics offered are very tepid. (I was playing around with MS paint, and this is what I came up with--the tron stripes are not mine, they just help to identify where the creases are in the bodywork). Undecided on the graphics around the headlights, but i think i like the one on the passenger side, vs the unmodified driver's side.
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-I want to do black-top and pillars, but the factory black pillar option doesn't match the body lines as well as what I would like.
-The Z07 wing isn't offered as an option for the E-Ray--So I'll have to aftermarket it. And i really would prefer it be on the trunk-lid and not the bumper..so I don't have to He-Man bags over it to the trunk.
-The Magnetic Ride Control is a solid option, but you can't keep the all-season tires if you get it. Call me crazy, but I want the all-seasons with the MRC. Summer tires are far more common and available than all-seasons (especially in 345's).
-There are no multi-color options for DRL outside of aftermarket.
-Tinted/subdued headlights/taillights is not factory option. And the factory tails are especially revolting without at least some blacking-out.
-Factory de-badging isn't an option. Not even an upcharge. And I really, really do not want crossed flags or a fish badge, ERAY badge, or CORVETTE lettering.
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Overall, I'm thinking maybe 2025 I can pull the trigger. Hopefully the Z06 backlog (from 2023) clears, and the hype over the 2025 ZR1 cools the demand for the E-Ray enough...that I can sneak in an order.
I want AWD. I want 600 HP. I want hardtop convertible. I want rally ride height and suspension travel. The fact that I can get the first 3, factory, is the only reason I'm edging closer to pushing the button.
Keep us informed, Carlos. :)
I think my C8 is the only car I actually miss owning. The DCT in it alone made it highly enjoyable.
didn't know you had one? what made you give it up?
and you can always get another. prices are liable to come down and supply go up--as the model years progress. i know i'm still holding hope that they will make some substantial changes to the options/colors.
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This is my idea. If you ever see someone doing this--I'm going to claim they stole the idea from me.
I think it makes it look more symmetric & balances it out. It also cuts up the over-busy lines on the front end. And will work without badging. Though I think that the pillars on the back should have the carbon flash extend out a bit further--to match the lines on the HTC.
It helps, Carlos.
Well done.
Being offered a stupid amount of money for it compared to what I paid for it. Plus it was black and I ended up HATING the black. Never again.. If I get another it will be CMG.Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
The car didn't live long shortly after, the new owner quickly did this to it.
https://mercury.bid.cars/1-49537622/...M5104244-1.jpgQuote:
Single vehicle crash into low stone wall at 81 Lexington
Street causing property damage. Operator transported by Fire
Department. Passenger declined medical attention and was
picked up by parents. Pole 2/48 has minor damage and Verizon
notified. Vehicle towed by Murray's Towing. See officer's
report.
Sounds like the new owner was young, dumb and had too much money.
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I can't do grey though. Or white. Or silver. And black would only be so I could have that in the engine bay/frame--while I paint something else on the outside. I have a hard time accepting those being palette choices for a sports car--let alone GM having MULTIPLE VERSIONS of those colors available. Of the 14 options for 2024, there are:
TWO whites (including CMG which is practically white)
TWO blacks
FOUR greys (including SFM and Cacti--which does not count as green in any sane world)
That leaves all of 2 reds, 2 blues, 1 orange and 1 yellow as legitimate color options. So you a chartreuse is filling the role of a deeper green and a deeper yellow (not that I dislike AY--as I think it and Shock Yellow on the Camaro are the best color choices GM has made in a long time). But there's nothing like Camaro green. And don't get me started on any of the other color choices that should be available on a high-end car like this.
I really want to do Radar Blue accents. I still say it is a crying shame that GM didn't see fit to revisit the 1998 pace car colorway, 25 years on. It stands out and is iconic just like the 1996 Grand Sport.
/rant
p.s.
found a c3 painted radar blue. it looks great, imho.
https://www.gtspecialistvehicles.com/blue-corvette-c3
Can we also take a minute to appreciate how F'd it is that there's no ambient lighting on the C8? I feel like every econobox and it's brother has this amenity as default by now. But GM couldn't see fit to offer it, even as a 3LZ option? WTH.
The C8 is the 1st vette that I'd love to have. But at my age its not financially responsible to get one :(
Still love my Stealth tho :)
Agreed about the black.Quote:
Originally Posted by FeaRpb
Looks great, better cared-for by someone else.
Good to see you hereabout, Steven. :)
What in the world does a C3 have to do with a C8, no matter what the color?Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
Just resign yourself to painting whatever you find purple...or that blue, if you insist.
Or paint your current wheels blue to see how you really like it.
You'll have time before you find the right 'Vette, Carlos...
no kev. I mean that I i like the AY. I'd just want to do graphics on it in radar blue. I listed those pics, because i think it really does show what a beautiful color it is--without all the garish pace-car graphics to distract from it.
not looking to paint any wheels. I will have a hard enough time finding 3 spokes sized appropriate for a c8. and then a harder time living the rest of my life with purists constantly screaming about how you should only put 5 spokes on a vette.
Your graphics were effective, I thought.
Have you given up on purple stuff?
no. but you apparently have to make concessions in things you want--unless you are elon musk. I'm always going to love TVR purple, Radar Blue, and other colors of that sort.