Automakers to gearheads: Stop repairing cars
Automakers are supporting provisions in copyright law that could prohibit home mechanics and car enthusiasts from repairing and modifying their own vehicles.
You thought you own your car?
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Automakers to gearheads: Stop repairing cars
Automakers are supporting provisions in copyright law that could prohibit home mechanics and car enthusiasts from repairing and modifying their own vehicles.
You thought you own your car?
Fuck'em.
No f-ing way!
You're in big trouble Paul, I think you've slightly modified your car from stock.
John Deere is on this, as well. Many farmers have been opting for older, non-computer controlled equipment, as a result.
Where's lawdogg? I'd like to hear what he thinks about this as he's in this field.
Jeremy
sure fire way to kill new sports car sales if not other genres as well. if something like this passes you might actually see a 20+ year old Mitsu sell for the $25K asking price. :lol:
That would be excellent. :D
So you could buy a new car you can't work on?Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
No, Paul, referring to Bobby's post. :wink:
Yeah, sell yours for 25k and buy a new car you can't work on. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
One of the comments
Yes it is.Quote:
The fact that this idea has even garnered momentum is deeply disturbing
Idoicracy is becoming more real everyday.
F em. Kit car. I'll build my own. Wife and kids can drive an icar.
If they ban coding changes on ecu's the aftermarket will explode with quality stand alone units.
That's what they don't get - do they think they're gonna send someone to jail on a tuning beef? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by donniekak
Not to inject politics, but this is typical liberal/progressive crap.
inb4butifitsavesjustonelifeitwillbeowrthit :lmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
Cell phone companies tried to do the same thing with their phones to prevent people from jailbreaking / rooting them....they lost.
To be fair with modern motorcycles you're pretty much dead in the water without factory diagnostic kit already.
You can see issues with modifying drive by wire coding and ABS software BUT if you have bought the car it should be your choice what you do with it..
What they are saying is that you buy the car, you buy the rights to use the software in it, without the right to change it.
Personally I could care less. I'd never buy a new car wi the intention of modding it. Our new cars are a-b only. I have old Mitsubishi pos cars to play with.
That said, if someone buys a new gtr, Lamborghini, Porsche, etc, and wants to mod it, just throw in a haltech.
As you say, buy a new R35 GTR and have the option of faster spool and another 100hp with just software/ decats, what would you do..
With the money new cars cost I'd better damn well be allowed to do whatever I wish to it or they can kiss my ass and I won't buy one. I can have my fun older tuner and just keep dropping used jdm engines in a corolla or whatever every couple hundred thousand miles for a couple hundred bucks.
YGBSM.
Guess what? There's a reason the DC-3 and the P-51 are still popular planes. There's a reason why muscle cars are popular. Part of it may be nostalgia...but the bigger part is probably that they're piss cheap and easy to work on by comparison. Don't get me wrong, I like A/C, PS, PB, etc...but at a certain point, you just have so many added-on features that it starts biting you in the ass. That's the problem with a lot of newer cars, there's now insanely high-tech ways of stealing cars that take advantage of keyless entry systems & proxy-start features. I'm just as content to keep a $.99 key i got copied at Home Depot vs. the $50 one i'd be required to get from the dealership.
Did I ever mention how much I love my Kia--POS though it may be?
Dude I'm right there with you. I bought a beat to shit Kia sephia for $500, drive it for a little over a year before it blew a radiator hose and a belt. I made my money back 10x in gas savings alone. Then sold it still broken for $300. Should have kept the damn thing.
If I find another kia with under 50k miles on it and going for a steal, i'm gonna buy it. I've literally doubled the mileage on this one. Granted, I've had to replace the exhaust, alternator and battery, but that seems like a small price to pay.
You're going to replace that stuff around 100k miles on just about any car anyways.
or 20 years. ;)