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Fertilizer Plant Blows Up In Texas
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Remember workplace safety laws? Yeah, those pesky things....
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I think we need to ban fertilizer.
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Originally Posted by
94stealthr/t
I think we need to ban fertilizer.
Commercial fertilizer is highly controlled for this very reason...if the US federal government decided to put the same limits on firearms as it does on ammonium nitrate, there would be 2nd amendment infringement cries all over the states.
Heck, you guys accept greater control over your cars than your guns. Imagine if someone tried to legislate a requirement that you'd need a license that would require passing a test, just to operate a gun? Requiring that you register all your guns, and register when you sell them, and put license plates on them with numbers kept in a national system so they could track down the owner? Requiring that if you wanted to carry in public, that you have liability insurance just in case? Oh the horror! lol.
So no, don't pull that silly 'lets ban _____ too!' bs.
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Originally Posted by
AgentOblivious
Commercial fertilizer is highly controlled for this very reason...if the US federal government decided to put the same limits on firearms as it does on ammonium nitrate, there would be 2nd amendment infringement cries all over the states.
Heck, you guys accept greater control over your cars than your guns. Imagine if someone tried to legislate a requirement that you'd need a license that would require passing a test, just to operate a gun? Requiring that you register all your guns, and register when you sell them, and put license plates on them with numbers kept in a national system so they could track down the owner? Requiring that if you wanted to carry in public, that you have liability insurance just in case? Oh the horror! lol.
So no, don't pull that silly 'lets ban _____ too!' bs.
Driving a car isn't a constitutional right but the right to bear arms is.
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Originally Posted by
VR-4 0wnz j00
Driving a car isn't a constitutional right but the right to bear arms is.
He's Canadian... mainly founded by the French...the biggest pansies around.
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Originally Posted by
AgentOblivious
Commercial fertilizer is highly controlled for this very reason...if the US federal government decided to put the same limits on firearms as it does on ammonium nitrate, there would be 2nd amendment infringement cries all over the states.
Heck, you guys accept greater control over your cars than your guns. Imagine if someone tried to legislate a requirement that you'd need a license that would require passing a test, just to operate a gun? Requiring that you register all your guns, and register when you sell them, and put license plates on them with numbers kept in a national system so they could track down the owner? Requiring that if you wanted to carry in public, that you have liability insurance just in case? Oh the horror! lol.
So no, don't pull that silly 'lets ban _____ too!' bs.
Hey Matt - never mind all that, give me a quick response, here:
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
I want to thank rlacasse for catching this, because I think it captures the nub of your misapprehension about our country, the one you pretend to know everything about.
We want you to get a job, period - we do not want to extend the option of welfare as a choice, which is how it seems you think things should work.
I want to ask you, point blank, Matt:
Of the panaply of choices an able-bodied person can make, do you actually think welfare should be on the menu?
A yes-or-no answer will be sufficient.
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yikes. i was living in a city where a magnesium plant caught fire once. THAT was scary.
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A lot of info on this is still sketchy, they are afraid that the main tank of fertilizer may also blow. (For perspective, it was only about $500 worth of fertilizer used in the Oklahoma City bombing, I can't even imagine how bad the damage would be if an entire plant supply blew up.)
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Love your new sig pic Todd.
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West is my wife's home town.
So far, everyone we know is okay. Though many have lost their homes, they are not hurt in any way.
God Speed, it has been uplifting how organized everything has been down there.
I know they released some news of those who weren't so lucky, I think most are first responders who were fighting the fire before the explosion. :(
-John
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registered as 2.1 on the Richter scale.
google map of the area:
http://i.imgur.com/xDi97JN.jpg
the apartment complex circled:
http://i.imgur.com/IikK6NC.jpg
original youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROrpKx3aIjA
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I am not sure how true it is, but I thought I heard something about a lightning strike starting it.
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It's so odd. looking at the video the explosion started on the far left where there was no fire. well at least as far as I could see.
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Originally Posted by
mehrshadvr4
It's so odd. looking at the video the explosion started on the far left where there was no fire. well at least as far as I could see.
I just watched it frame by frame. I dont think I see what you are seeing.
Keep in mind though the way digital cameras record their frames. That explosion/shockwave happened so quick, it could look distorted.
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I watched the video earlier today. Reminds me of the rocket fuel plant explosion in Henderson, NV back in the late 80's.
I lived in Las Vegas at the time. We felt the shockwave about 17 miles away. Was in 2nd grade if I remember right. I remember being at recess when it happened and the gym teacher running around telling everyone to get inside.
I think they thought an atomic bomb went off.
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Originally Posted by
J-Groove
West is my wife's home town.
So far, everyone we know is okay. Though many have lost their homes, they are not hurt in any way.
God Speed, it has been uplifting how organized everything has been down there.
I know they released some news of those who weren't so lucky, I think most are first responders who were fighting the fire before the explosion. :(
-John
Weird that your wife grew up in West. I lived in that town for a while in 2008, and it's such a peaceful place. I couldn't imagine anything like this happening there. I wonder if my old girlfriend is alright.
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Originally Posted by
FeaRpb
Damn you can see the ambulance and fire truck right where it exploded.
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Just reposting the gifs because these are crazy. You can really see the shock wave in the first one...
http://i.minus.com/iblHeWIN4n2PfQ.gif
http://i.imgur.com/d239FrS.gif
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Originally Posted by
Blue91SL
Weird that your wife grew up in West. I lived in that town for a while in 2008, and it's such a peaceful place. I couldn't imagine anything like this happening there. I wonder if my old girlfriend is alright.
Yeah, she was there from elementary school through graduating in '01 until she moved in with me in '02.
We are no longer in the clear, some of the first responders were guys Tiff grew up with. She isn't close friends with them but still she had known them for a good chunk of her life in that small town. :(
Hope your old girlfriend is okay.
-John
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Originally Posted by
AgentOblivious
Commercial fertilizer is highly controlled for this very reason...if the US federal government decided to put the same limits on firearms as it does on ammonium nitrate, there would be 2nd amendment infringement cries all over the states.
Heck, you guys accept greater control over your cars than your guns. Imagine if someone tried to legislate a requirement that you'd need a license that would require passing a test, just to operate a gun? Requiring that you register all your guns, and register when you sell them, and put license plates on them with numbers kept in a national system so they could track down the owner? Requiring that if you wanted to carry in public, that you have liability insurance just in case? Oh the horror! lol.
So no, don't pull that silly 'lets ban _____ too!' bs.
Sarcasm...
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Originally Posted by
UTRacerX9
A lot of info on this is still sketchy, they are afraid that the main tank of fertilizer may also blow. (For perspective, it was only about $500 worth of fertilizer used in the Oklahoma City bombing, I can't even imagine how bad the damage would be if an entire plant supply blew up.)
No need to imagine it... Just look to history: Texas City 1947. 2300 tons went off in a ship's hold during loading. Over 500 dead, shockwave felt 250 miles away... There were injuries from blown in widows over a mile away... To this day the worst industrial accident in US history.
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Originally Posted by
AgentOblivious
Commercial fertilizer is highly controlled for this very reason...if the US federal government decided to put the same limits on firearms as it does on ammonium nitrate, there would be 2nd amendment infringement cries all over the states.
Heck, you guys accept greater control over your cars than your guns. Imagine if someone tried to legislate a requirement that you'd need a license that would require passing a test, just to operate a gun? Requiring that you register all your guns, and register when you sell them, and put license plates on them with numbers kept in a national system so they could track down the owner? Requiring that if you wanted to carry in public, that you have liability insurance just in case? Oh the horror! lol.
So no, don't pull that silly 'lets ban _____ too!' bs.
I hate to bug you guy's, but to anyone living outside the US, this would seem like a reasonable course of action:rolleyes:
Jeff:coo3l:
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Originally Posted by
AgentOblivious
Commercial fertilizer is highly controlled for this very reason...if the US federal government decided to put the same limits on firearms as it does on ammonium nitrate, there would be 2nd amendment infringement cries all over the states.
Heck, you guys accept greater control over your cars than your guns. Imagine if someone tried to legislate a requirement that you'd need a license that would require passing a test, just to operate a gun? Requiring that you register all your guns, and register when you sell them, and put license plates on them with numbers kept in a national system so they could track down the owner? Requiring that if you wanted to carry in public, that you have liability insurance just in case? Oh the horror! lol.
So no, don't pull that silly 'lets ban _____ too!' bs.
What if you had to take a civics test to get a licence to vote? It could be argued that the uninformed voter does more damage to our society.
Edit: Hell, we don't even ask for ID to vote, while the rest of the world does.
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Originally Posted by NickS VR4
Hell, we don't even ask for ID to vote, while the rest of the world does.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma3t8f2Nxg1r3kkje.gif
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^^^LOL... But we make you register to vote.....?
Wouldn't want to have to match an ID to a registered voter, that might drop the turnout....
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Originally Posted by
NickS VR4
What if you had to take a civics test to get a licence to vote? It could be argued that the uninformed voter does more damage to our society.
Edit: Hell, we don't even ask for ID to vote, while the rest of the world does.
100% agree. never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
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Originally Posted by
IPD
100% agree. never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
+1
Did they ever figure out how the fire started? They said they were treating it as a crime scene, I'm assuming for investigative proposes though.
