Um....wat?
Are you thinking of the Sidekick/Tracker? Because the Jimny and the Samurai are literally the same vehicle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Jimny
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Um....wat?
Are you thinking of the Sidekick/Tracker? Because the Jimny and the Samurai are literally the same vehicle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Jimny
Annnnnnnnnd off the rails it goes...:biggrin:
Let me say this, Carlos-
What you describe is the perfect vehicle for yourself, and others may agree or quibble, but your preference is the same as everyone's insofar as it reflects your exact spec.
ONE (the best one, of course) transmission.
ONE engine (turboed, natch).
Etc.
Etc., etc.
How many will you sell, and how many sales will you miss?
That's what the aftermarket is for, so let THAT flourish...;)
It shouldn't NEED an aftermarket. Historical trends in car sales indicate:
-That 2-door SUV's are desirable among the off-road community, but aren't as strong sellers as 4-door varieties (which probably see far less off-road time)
-That there is a market for high-power, off road vehicles. The Raptor, Trackhawk, TRX, and even the Rally Fighter...all attest to this. (but these are mostly all 4-door varieties, due to paranoia about volume sales)
-That 2-door sports cars will always outsell their 4-door brethren--even when accounting for price and performance. (they are sleeker and sexier after all)
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So put that all together, and it spells out a pretty clear idea. Make a sexy sports car with 500+ hp & torque, ladder-frame chassis, and a suspension that is competition-ready for baja. Now consumers don't have to pick whether they want something for stoplight-to-stoplight OR something to go desert running. And now consumers don't have to worry about reliability....because they lifted their vehicle to high heaven...or added ungodly amounts of boost just to get it to minimally-acceptable performance levels.
Ford already has all the pieces they need. They just need to put that 3.5L in...and aim for a more sports-car look (removable doors + removable roof = Exocet inspiration?) Nobody who is already willing to plunk $50,000 on an optioned, sasquatch Bronco is going to say "no, I'd hate more HP and the ability to do stoplight runs". Heck, that's practically what mud-bogging is all about anyways...so now you have class-3, competition ready vehicle.
I'm not seeing the lack of demand here.
Okay, I buy all that, but specificity will do you out of some sales no matter how good the product is; the people in the board-room run the show, and they want every sale possible.
Drive-train/finish options are required, however bespoke the rest of the vehicle might be.
Reality regretfully intrudes.
Probably, I know one had coil springs and the other had leafs. Could have been a generational thing, as they were not the same year.Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
since we're derailed anyways....
I used to think the 3/s had the most beautiful exterior lines of any car ever. I'm not 100% sure of that anymore. Because yesterday, I discovered the DeTomaso P72:
https://i.redd.it/vxu5l26atoi31.jpg
https://images.cdn.circlesix.co/imag...2-rear-top.jpg
Granted, the interior is puke.
https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/de-t...00706847_h.jpg
It desperately wants to be a mashup of Pagani and Spyker...and I'm not the only one who thinks so, although I disagree with their take that it's a ripoff of the P4/5 on the outside; similar, but still quite distinct.
https://carbuzz.com/news/someone-is-...g-their-design
Should have gone with Lexus SC500 theming on the inside instead. Something more "organic" and "fluid" feeling...to match the outside.
https://2qibqm39xjt6q46gf1rwo2g1-wpe...0_interior.jpg
Would make a good Bronco.
The build & price pages are live. Looks like the mansquatch option will wait until model year #2.
zero sympathy from me for the mansquatch people. when the take rate on manuals for virtually EVERY vehicle they've been offered in--has been <15%--CONSISTENTLY (and in some cases <10%)--for several years...it's time to put up or shut up. And from what I see, the boat-rowers all want used vehicles to cater to their whims....but are not the demographic that is making new vehicle purchases.
Time to shit or get off the pot. Or in this case; pony up MSRP or adapt to the fact that purists are a dying out and that only older vehicles will have what you want.
p.s.
Toyota listed the manual take rate on the civic at 1%. It was 5% on the tacoma. Consumer demand is what drives supply.