The pass was illegal but it was safe. He didn't cross the line until he could see the road was clear.
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The pass was illegal but it was safe. He didn't cross the line until he could see the road was clear.
Anybody know where to find the video after that one if there is any... I would be interested to see if the guy did go to jail or not.
No F-ing way! One was a safe pass but illegal pass. It's against the law to speed but we have all done it in areas safe to do so. The other was illegal and could have very well killed the guy plus it was on purpose. No way that was even remotely equal.
Edit: Not to mention the guy tried to run the guy down and spent half of the time in the wrong lane treating everybody else on the road.
Illegal is illegal. He could have easily hit on coming traffic, lost control and wrecked, etc. The rider/driver does not get to make up rules as they go along if they deem their abilities better then everyone elses's on the road. Have I broken the speed limit? Yes. And I was wrong to do so. I won't argue that I should/could have cause I am the bestest and I know better than the speed limit sign posted.
Albeit, swerving at the passer just cause you are mad they are passing is retarded. They should both be cited for the illegal acts they committed. The truck should receive a stiffer ticket/fine/jail. But the cycle is by no means an innocent bystander.
-Chris
there are some stupid (unnecessary) laws and stupid drivers out there.
Isn't it legal to do this in some states...California maybe? correct me if I'm wrong.
But it's interesting to see how everyone views a situation like this. My take, the biker does have a clearer view to see ahead, and I think it's was okay to pass, illegal? Yes, but come on really, complaining about this, should be the least of your worries. The pickup was completely out of line, a less experienced rider would have been killed!
If the pickup truck wouldn't have swerved, I don't think anyone would be talking about passing on a double line!
Hey guys, I'm the new guy here, so I'm not going to dump it all out there, I'll just keep it professional. I have been a Police Officer for 11 years, and currently I am a Motor Officer. It's easy to get wrapped up in these kind of things emotionally and that's usually when people get upset. Pull yourself out of the situation for a minute and look at the facts.
Beginning of the video states that people from all over love to ride this road. Means alot of out of towners come blowing down a rural road where people live, work, and children play. The video clearly shows two riders traveling at a high rate of speed on a road that I can almost guarantee isn't zoned over 45, probably 35. They are showing a complete disregard for those who live in that area. Basically disrespecting the residents. I have seen what a motorcycle vs. pedestrian will do first hand and it was fatal for both at a speed of 40 mph. I stop people all the time speeding through housing areas and school zones who have children themselves. They are my favorite because when I see a car seat and ask them how they feel about people doing it in their neighborhood I get one of two responses. A. "You're right, I'm sorry, I hate it when people do that", or.....B. "Go to hell, there's never a cop in my neighborhood when people are speeding", "I didn't see any kids", "my car will stop in time" and my favorite, "I didn't know what the speed limit was" as if ignorance is an excuse.
Now some of you are thinking that it doesn't give the pickup driver the right to do what he did, and you're absolutely right. That's a guy who obviously has snapped and had enough, but I lay alot of it on local law enforcement for not spending more time in those areas and building public trust that it would not be tolerated. I can tell you that if I were sitting there and those three passed me, all three of them would be seeing a judge for reckless driving.
The point is, what you have here is a case of "evil begets evil".
Now that I'm done with the cop answer, If I were hanging out on my front porch and saw Billy flying by chasing a motorcycle and another in pursuit, I'd whip all of their asses for general stupidity. I promise you if you ride/drive like an ass, sooner or later it will catch up with you, be it the law, the land, or the tree. Not one of those individual had any business driving like that.
DISMOUNT!
Very well put, i couldnt agree more
This boils down to people thinking they can Police the road, which is bullsh*t. So what if he flew by you, does that entitle you to act on it and threaten yourself and others?! I drive on mountain roads here in CO and those drivers are the worst. Why would you speed up when someone tries to pass (on one lane highways) even though you were doing 15 below the limit prior? I know this is a different scenario but its another example of people thinking they can Police the road when they should just mind their own f*cking business and just let the person safely pass regardless if its a damn bike or not. By doing that nonsense you put yourself, the person trying to pass you, and others on the road coming towards you in danger over your tomfooleries.
Learn to drive RESPECTFULLY people, dont be dbags about it and say "he's breaking the law, so I will too just to teach him a lesson!" Dumb f*cks