It is time for my comeback... 2000-2500lb cornerweighed 3/S and 1000hp motor

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Originally Posted by anyonebutme

Phil used to sell extended balljoints with spacers to lower the arm and help bring back the roll center when lowered, but they have been missing for years. Probably because nobody bought them after the first few sets sold to those who cared.

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First I've heard about this. Must have been discontinued long before my time. Do you have any links or information on them? Why didn't they sell? They're a significant suspension improvement.

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Originally Posted by J. Fast

First I've heard about this. Must have been discontinued long before my time. Do you have any links or information on them? Why didn't they sell? They're a significant suspension improvement.

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Cuz 3/s owners nowadays are focused on how cheap an all season tire they can run and how many miles they can drive on a spun bearing over suspension improvements......

From the phone.

Someone should get ahold of whiteline and see if they'd make a kit like this for us:
Whiteline KCA395 Roll centre/bump steer - correction kit

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Originally Posted by B-Man

Someone should get ahold of whiteline and see if they'd make a kit like this for us:
Whiteline KCA395 Roll centre/bump steer - correction kit

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I agree! We also have a significant bump steer issue as well. For those wondering what's being discussed

From Ti Tongs "Making it Stick" Part 4 Advanced Suspension Geometry

Roll Center... Uncorrected control arm pin position when lowered.

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...RollCenter.png

Bump Steer...

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y.../BumpSteer.png

Bump steer corrected by adjusting swing radius of steering arms.

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...oBumpSteer.png

Despite a number of rumors and myths spoken to me by those who should know better... these two items are not adjustable by upgrading your coilovers, stiffening or changing springs, swapping sway bars, or by proper alignment. Roll center and bump steer must be adjusted. Because we lack the adjustment, when we lower our cars and drop our center of gravitys we actually induce more roll and our handling goes down. We mask it with stiff springs, but that's all we're doing.

What makes me scratch my head is what Nate touched on. Owners want the cheapest all season radial possible. Without correcting the geometry we're actually shortening the tread life of our tires which costs more in the long run. :lo5l:

I think the first vendor to bring a Whiteline style kit to market and properly explain it's significance/benefit stands to make some $.

Its great people are still doing crazy shit with these cars.

-Chris

Any chance you weighed the pile of metal that you cut out of the frame?

Unboxed and rough assembled new rear wing...

Span is 180cm", chord is 30cm"

Should give me back all the weight I took out of the rear... plus a crapload.

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...psf92842cb.jpg

Downforce data on this wing is 2350N (approx 530lbs) @ 100mph @ 14 degree angle of attack. 3550N (800lbs) @ 160mph. Subsequent drag is 240N @ 100mph and 640N @ 160mph. :)

I like it, where did you get it?

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Originally Posted by green-lantern

I like it, where did you get it?

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It's an Esprit 262 JDM Wing for a GTR

http://bespoke.wpengine.netdna-cdn.c...-2012-GT-R.jpg

Traded it straight up to a local GTR owner for a Stone Carbon dual element wing and a Glock 19 :lo5l:.

Dual element for a single?