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guess i'll have to try harder next time.
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"There are far more wars fought in the name of religion than anything else" - I disagree. WWI, WWII, Cold War (technically), Korean War, Vietnam, Trojan War, and Most Civil wars were fought against Tyranny, not religion.
that's one side of the argument. religious persecution falls into that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 94stealthr/t
Oh I'm not saying that religions don't persecute. Which hunts, Queen "Bloody" Mary, Crusades, and so many others. I'm simply saying for the most part, PERSONALLY I don't believe it's the religions fault. A ton of like minded people that are easily manipulated is a bad thing, but I don't blame religion. <3
By the way, you do really live in Germany?
Yes out of 5 meanings 3 of which match your argument. Unfortunately you chose to assume meaning into my statement.
LOL the Trojan war was a war of the gods in Greek mythology...
Cold War was a bitchfest that never actually was a war. A bunch of posturing.
Civil wars, including ours had a very large religious base to them. In ours the north disagreed with the south as to the biblical stance on mans freedoms as a part of what caused it. Most are a power struggle between two religious ideals that try to impose their will to gain a larger base. This is evident in the differing religious bases in Iraq, Afghanistan, many of the countries in historical Europe, China, and many other areas in the world.
History is riddled with conflicts based on beliefs. There was far more blood shed happening in history than in the industrial, and post industrial age. Hell there are stories that collar one of the largest religions in the world as a tool to gain control over the masses. Look how the Spanish Catholics used religion to plunder South America. It is your right to disagree.
Religion as I describe earlier in my eyes is no different than any government. Yes there is a faith base of rule, but it is interpreted very much to the advantage of the humans in charge.
my permanent residence is currently in germany, yes. i am temporarily elsewhere.
First, I like the way you debate.
Second, I put the Trojan war in there to see if I could get you. You passed.
Third, I get what you are saying. People fight over religion, yes. I am simply saying that I don't exactly think religion was designed to capture the mass and persuade them to kill everyone. I believe that's mans interpretation.
bullshits.Quote:
Originally Posted by 94stealthr/t
in both the koran and the bible, it says to kill unbelievers.
I've read it and I agree it does say kill Blasphemers and unbelievers. Personally I don't agree with that. Plus the Koran and Old Testament are VERY close in scripture.Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
Two white male russian muslims.
Seems to me these guys make every political group happy.