I like the old one better...The car doesnt need more hp for people like us, we need to learn how to drive better:)
Lotus Exige s 240 | eBay
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I like the old one better...The car doesnt need more hp for people like us, we need to learn how to drive better:)
Lotus Exige s 240 | eBay
Jason
not really looking to replace my 3000gt's but this is the car ; Noble M400 | Ayrton Sports CarsAyrton Sports Cars
I would probably get a MKIV Supra.
still think evora looks better.
Like the M400, but loved the M15, even more than the newer M600.Quote:
Originally Posted by mb7050
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f/Noblem15.jpg
Again though, way out of price range/budget.
Honestly, more HP for the car may ruin it IMO. When I drove it, it felt perfectly balanced with power, handling and braking, although I wasn't on a track or anything to push it, but I imagine that a car like that could teach you as much about driving in a single day as a month of professional instruction with a VR4 would.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonY
What about an old Porsche 928? It was kind of a bastardization of what Porsche normally did, but they have a decent amount of power and are definitely GT cars and can be had for a reasonable sum these days, I'd say it probably compares pretty fairly with a stock VR4.
928's are the 2nd best car porsche ever made, imho. right behind the 959.
Sunset Orange Metallic 4th gen Camaro Z28.
cloth interior, 4L80 4 speed auto with a stalled converter, LSx based motor... im in love
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I tried buying one a few times, but there hard to get a hold of. people either ask $3500 and there sold in a few min or the seller asks $15,000 and four months later decides he'll let her go for $14,500... thats about the time i tell the seller hes outta his mind.
Drive one of those POS 928s and then drive any 911.Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
You're just visiting Europe, I've lived there for 27 years. Saying the 928 is the second best Porsche ever made is like saying the second best breakfast is fried cat shit.
I'd have a Pontiac G8. Loved those cars from Day 1 and was so sad to see them die off way too early.
For how cheap you can get a 928, they're not too shabby, definitely agree they're not in the same ballpark as the 911. Love the 997, I'd seriously sell a kidney for one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbo Beast
Agreed, but would have to be one of the few that had the manual 6 speed option, which was only available like the last year or two of production. Basically a poor man's Corvette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nationalmilkman
Not a fan of R/R porsches. F/R or R/A--fan.freaking.tastic. r/r....not so much, imho. i don't consider snap oversteer to be a prized quality in handling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbo Beast
Hard to say for replacement. Nothing will ever be able to replace the emotional attachment and the people I've met in the 10 years of ownership.
Current:
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I've owned many different 'supplements' to the 3/S, my favorite maybe being my current 6spd twin turbo sedan. Having the wife's Evo X in the garage to play with has spoiled me. It's really an amazing point-to-point car and nothing else looks like it. The BMWs have spoiled me too... great build quality, great chassis designs, etc.
All of these things combined have really created an itch for a rear engined car from Stuttgart. Turbo variants would make the most sense as a direct VR-4 replacement but I feel like I'll want to own at least one n/a one at some point. I've owned a lot of turbo cars and while I'll always prefer them, there's a lot to be said for a high strung n/a screamer.
I can't see replacing my Stealth with anything, but if I had to, I've been reading up on the Alfa Romeo 4C that'll be coming here soon. $54,000 for a carbon fiber, track tuned, and actual useable space to carry things sounds interesting.
http://autocarspeed.com/wp-content/u...Category-1.jpg
there's a shitton of nice alfas that never made it to the states. coupes, sedans, roadsters, hatchbacks, etc.^
if we were making a list of cars that won't come to the states...the question would be twice as difficult.
this
http://www.carpages.co.uk/renault/re...d-01-04-10.jpg
or this...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...xwei%C3%9F.JPG
or this...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...BCsseldorf.jpg
or even this...
http://www.performance-car-guide.co....-TF-2002-2.jpg
hard to tell from pics. some of these are unbelievably sexy in person.
Except, the 4C is coming here. Actually should be on sale now in the US.
true. it also doesn't seem to be a whole lot different than the toyobaru.Quote:
Originally Posted by 93STLTH
It's not here yet, I believe q2 '14 it will be. That's the plan anyway, it was supposed to be here by the end of this year but had complications.
It is VERY different than the toyobaru. It is mid engine turbo 4 rwd. It will be comparable to a lotus Elise.
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ah, missed the mid-engine part.
it reminds me a LOT of the alfa MTO...especially the tails. too bad we only get the 4c, not the 8c.
on that note...more alfas that never have seen the states:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...uperstudio.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...90620_rear.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...a_159_grey.jpg
i wouldn't mind a 159 myself...and i don't normally like 4-door sedans.
I've driven the 159 wagon and the gulietta cloveleaf edition. I lo e the nose on the 159 and the gulietta is a peppy little bugger. They both feel cheap to me. Cool interiors though with the brushed aluminum look rather that faux carbon fiber.
Btw, our 4c is likely to be a couple hundred pounds heavier than it is overseas due to crash ratings.
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Wasn't the 8c just a couple year production year car with less than a hundred sent to USA?
So you could get one but good luck...
They probably have resale value retainment like a Ford GT....
From the phone.
yeah, the 159 nose really gives me a boner. probably both because of the pissed-off look, and because of alfa's infamous "vagina" grille. really wish they'd gone with lights like those on the 3/s. wouldn't be any need to do an "angry-eye" hood if they had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uniuno
p.s.
the tails on them are also kick-ass. i love them more than supra tails.
Never will replace, but add to is very possible if I ever finish what I want.
Possibly an Elise SC may be sought.
Went out in my mates 2012 Nissan GTR today, all I can say is it's amazing!.
Gearbox is seamless shifting under full power, plenty of poke and the brakes are excellent!.
Shame they're so bloody expensive..
SRT 8 Jeep..Thinking of selling my 99 Vr4 for one, but I'm still on the fence.
Funny to me how that's popped up a few times - even though I know what they are capable of. I've been looking for one for over a year. It will not replace my 3s but will make a fun DD!Quote:
Originally Posted by ICPREY
Yea the gas mileage has me thinking hard for a DD, but the sounds/power of a heads/cam package would probably make up for it..:joyous:
Bought a 996 Turbo almost 2 years ago now. Wasn't intended to replace the Stealth, but after driving it, I couldn't go back to the Stealth and enjoy it like I used to. Plus, we have a 3 car garage and we needed two SUV's, so between having two sports cars, the Stealth had to go.
I did test drive some other cars, C6 Z06 (eh), Viper (not good for daily driver duty, too unrefined), Ferrari F355 (not a good value, plus maintenance is a killer). The car I came closest to picking over the 911 was a Mercedes SL600 with Renntech upgrades. Had something insane like 620 horsepower and 750lb ft of torque. However, I couldn't see myself (t-shirt and jeans guy) driving that everywhere. Not old enough, either.
I think either a 335xi or WRX. Not sure yet though since I've barely driven my project Stealth
Surprised the 996 in your eyes is more fun than he c6 z06. What made you say eh to the z06?
Just test drove a 12 wrx, I could see that as a replacement. It cost a lot more money than I even have in my 3k so I hope it would.
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The Z06 handles fine, owing to wide tires all around, and it weighs about 200lbs less than my car, according to the specs, but all that weight is in the front. Steering feels heavy compared to a 911 or other exotics that are rear or midengined. It honestly felt a bit like my Stealth to me. Didn't have AWD, and of course, no turbos. Stock for stock, the Z06 is barely faster than my car in a straight line, but with a lot less refinement. There's not much to differentiate it from a regular C6 IMO either. After a turbo swap to K24 18G's in my car, (good for about 700 crank hp) it was no comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOMIEZVR4
i would have taken the sl600. you can still dress up an MB so it doesn't look like a grandpa car (AMG variants help with that a LOT)--and with that kind of power, you have TONS of fun. Plus, it doesn't simply look like a glorified vette.
This particular car did have some bodywork done to it, side skirts and aftermarket hood.Quote:
Originally Posted by IPD
It was a tough decision. In the end it boiled down to the fact that I could make the Porsche everything I wanted (carbon fiber interior, GT2 front and rear end, etc) and be competent on a track too, with lots of aftermarket support. The SL was too soft and heavy, even with all that power and some suspension upgrades. Plus, my car came with an extended warranty for 2 years. I did a lot of research on the SL's, and there were so many complaints about the top breaking, the air suspension going bad, the hydraulic pumps for the seats and stuff failing... I didn't want to mess with it. Even tried to see about buying an aftermarket warranty... they ran about $5k for a 2 year bumper to bumper warranty, if you can find a company that will write a policy for you. Lots of companies told me flat out they don't warranty those cars, because they lost money on them every time.
Typical Benz bullshit...no surprise there. I HATE working on MB's...
No worries...IPD will be here any minute and tell you how great they really are :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by NOMIEZVR4
If i had to change and if I had enough money the new Nissan gtr that is my dream car and if I was really rich ferrari 430 modena or a Caterham fitted with a suzuki hayabusa engine turbo charged.
Only if I had the money.
But still very happy with my gto tt.
Jerry
I swear i think wingnut is following me around on this forum... :awesome:Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut
If I weren't building all 3 this year (well, putting one back together and modifiying one BPU but "building" the other) I was thinking of adding a MKIV Supra to the collection, or a 2G Viper. I need to stop looking at shit, this is getting ridiculous.
I've even contemplated SVT Lightning swapping my 03 Expedition which would make it similar to the SVT Thunder concept they never offered and I'm still pissed about. I think a low 13 second Expedition would be a blast.
Termi swapped Ranger on coil overs sounds like more fun to me. :suspect:Quote:
Originally Posted by Willens
GTR for sure