I cherish my old craftsman tools that were still made in the USA. Makes me sad to see so little made here anymore.
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I cherish my old craftsman tools that were still made in the USA. Makes me sad to see so little made here anymore.
Terrible comparison.... What do you think a 1/2" drive 9/16" wobble impact socket is worth? I bought mine 25 years ago... I've worn it out (not broken mind you, but worn out..) at least a dozen times since then. Do you think the original purchase price covered the 12 replacements? The list I have of examples like that would amaze any non-professional. Do you have a Kobalt guy that comes by every week and can spot a worn out socket from across the room and snatch it up for warranty? Will Apple give me a new computer 20 years from now if I wear it out? will they give me a new one every 2 years for 20 years when I continue to wear them out? I don't think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes2nd
Snap-on (as well as Cornwell and Mac) market to the professional tech... They know the liability they are taking on, and have to price accordingly. If you think any store brand tool has a warranty that even comes close, you're welcome to test the theory, I know better... And there is no arguing the level of service provided, only it's value. If I have a job to do, and I call my dealer to see if there is a specialized tool for the task, he's likely to know, as that is his job. The counter nerd at Sears or Lowes will look at you with a blank stare and say "what? a water pump socket for a Northstar? what's a Northstar...?"
For the non professional, the value is not likely there, and if I didn't do this for a living, I would probably not own all Snap-on tools, but for the market they serve, they are actually a pretty good value.
I started with craftsman tools. Haven't broken any yet besides a 12pt 13mm and the handle on my air ratchet. But mac, Cornwell, and snap on trucks pass by the shop every week so I have a little bit of all these tools. All of them are holding up pretty good.
hard to believe non of you folks dont know about wright tools, especially mike. made in the usa and of equal quality of snap on..http://www.wrighttool.com/ made in usa for 80 years
Exactly. I break stuff all of the time. Usually from using the tool for its non-intended use. Covered under warranty every time by Snap On. No questions asked. For a person that wants to make money with their hand tools, I'd recommend Snap On hands down. I've had a set of stockets with 5/8th's of them worn out. My dealer will give me a brand new set and just take my whole old set in for warranty. Sure a socket set can run you an easy $200 (and that's just for 8-19mm sockets), but I get them replaced every 3-4 months. Over 5 years, I've probably replaced my sets 15 times with no effort. My dealer comes to me every wednesday and takes care of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealMcCoy
Hell, even their big equipment service is great. Had the screen go out on my tire balancer... fixed the very next day by a trained factory tech. Bought a new tire changer from them, factory tech came out and trained all of my guys on how to use it properly. You pay for that kind of service and it's money well spent for someone who makes money with their tools. I couldn't go back to using anything else.... I've tried.
Every tech that works for me comes in with their Craftsman crap. They swear they will never buy Snap On because it's over priced. Then, I see them starting to use my ratchets and sockets. Within 2 weeks of them starting their job, they are on the Snap On truck buying real tools.
I think it's more about who they market to... I think Wright has a foothold on heavy equipment service, where Snap-on and their direct competitors are heavy into automotive. (At least that's how it seems in my area. The companies that carry Wright around here are geared toward heavy equipment and road construction.)Quote:
Originally Posted by mcshooter
I love my Kobalt
Granny
Snap on for most sockets ,wratchets and Proto for my torque wrenches.
Everything else that I've amassed is mainly generic, craftsman and other brands for extra tools
totally without factual comparison for power tools. what KIND of tools did you use? drills? saws? cordless? corded? 12v? 18v? 24v? 28v? ni-cad? lithium?Quote:
Originally Posted by 93STLTH
it's complete and utter BS to just toss a statement like this in for power-tools if you're not going to provide FACTUAL data on what was used, and how old those tools were when you used them.
fwiw, i LOVE rigid 18v cordless. i also believe that for users who are somewhat less demanding, ryobi's lithium cordless (neon green stuff, not the old blue ones) are quite good.
also fwiw, black & decker is an entry-level brand---and i would EXPECT inferior performance to dewalt; since they're both owned by the same company and marketed completely differently. other "entry" brands would probably include skill and ryobi (although i can tell you from personal use i've beat the crap out of the older blue ryobi stuff, and it held up like a champ).
p.s.
if we're talking about power tools, why stop at the ones you get easily at retailers? why not include the professional-grade ones? wacker. hilti. etc.
I went with matco, because they're cheaper than snap on with the same warranty, and my matco rep is very reiable ave gets things taken care of fast.