Since Emilie wants to talk about it: her sig. This is a good ol' Drama Thread!

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...kidnapping.jpg

I'm only looking, because I missed all this while I was in Iraq and everyone is so upset I can't get an unbiased response. He said why he was here, and it was to offer the whole post since an excerpt of it is currently in Emilie's signature. This thread is really between those two, and we should not derail their thread and make it a 3si bash, there are plenty of other on-topic threads for that. :)

If anyone has anything to say here, it should be Emilie, and only if she decides to. I really think subjects like this (in general) should be handled through direct PMs or phone calls. Drama and fighting only stands to hurt the community as a whole.

Private PMs are just that: PRIVATE. Except GZP (and therefore, by extension, Emilie is in a positron of trust relative to new members and members who are new to this particular platform. That means she has the ability to influence the most important sector of our forums.

If there have been actions/behaviors of a less than sterling quality in the past to the extent that GZP/Hans/Emilie have been sanctioned by the "board authorities".

There are new issues. Old issues reflect on new behaviors. That makes it prudent to ask what happened in the past and see how it helps us understand/fix the current issues.

To allow to just "giggle off" what happened before is a dis-service to our most vulnerable members. IMHO, A full disclosure, including results/outcomes should be make public. Then let the same public make up its own mind.

Just my 1.5 cents worth.

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I really don't like being judged by manipulated information - legally, this is called defamation.

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pretty much why todd is a giagantic troll & should be treated as such.

Y U make it so hard for me to read the text?!

Jeremy

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Originally Posted by IPD

pretty much why todd is a giagantic troll & should be treated as such.

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Hey crybaby, I don't mind being called a troll... Name calling from babies and little kids is to be expected. When you grow up, you'll learn that people like you don't matter. :)

something something "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
-Doctor Seuss, mofos

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Thank you for clarifying this, Ryan. I knew GZP had a shit load of issues in the past and always wondered how the hell they got back in... I just never cared to read the 100,000 page long threads on the subject.

I'd seen Emilie's sig and wondered why she would put that there... Seems like the only attention it brings is negative. I'd considered buying parts from them recently, but fortunately didn't end up needing to. I'll stay away.

I have met Ryan a couple times, he is a good Guy. I talk with Hans and Emilies frequently in chat. I don't have an issue with any of you. I did developed the "Giggles" pet name for Emilies from her sign. Ryan I hope you don't think that's a jab at you in anyway.

Ryan,

Thank you for putting it all out there.

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Originally Posted by AdamVR4

Thank you for clarifying this, Ryan. I knew GZP had a shit load of issues in the past and always wondered how the hell they got back in... I just never cared to read the 100,000 page long threads on the subject.

I'd seen Emilie's sig and wondered why she would put that there... Seems like the only attention it brings is negative. I'd considered buying parts from them recently, but fortunately didn't end up needing to. I'll stay away.

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Adam, I wouldn't stay away from GZP. I've ordered many random parts for my cars over the years, heck just last year I bought an entire car from them.

Now GZP does have a bad past, Hans was in his early 20's trying to start his own shop/company and made some bad decisions. But I will say I trust them now. The GZP past is from 10 years ago, I know I'm a different person than I was 10 years ago.

There is one on going issue that Ryan was talking about, that one customers car. That is crappy, what it seemed like to me from the outside is the guy was a dick, Hans took it personal instead of looking at it as a business. Which is what you NEVER want to do.

-John