WTB: Windows 7 32bit

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Originally Posted by inperfectdarkness

some people refuse to get with the 21st century....

never mind that 7 can do an "xp mode".

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The one instance where the other tech thought it would be okay to use "XP mode" the PC was used ONLY for driver/apps for a CNC laser, they're shop was down for a week when it errored rather than just having an XP installation and knowing the fixes he had to diagnose it. I don't know the details, other than he can be pretty dumb sometimes. I've never used the XP compatibility stuff myself.
Although why use an OS that is so much larger, for single task systems such as that? Waste of resources.

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Originally Posted by inperfectdarkness

since WHEN can a system that handles 32 bit win 7 not handle 64 bit win 7?

put down the crack pipe.

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Not all processors support x64. A processor that won't handle Windows 7 in your eyes might be "fast" enough for someone who cares or knows less about performance and requirements. If you argument there is if it's that old don't install Windows 7 on it I'd have to agree though don't get me wrong.

Also, I gave a coworker a copy of x64 Ultimate, and I think he actually has a 32bit anytime upgrade so I might be able to get that... I'll let ya' know Monday (thats the next day the shops open)

if it's a single-purpose, closed-system pc doing limited amounts of tasks--then don't upgrade it. 20 year old x86 programming isn't happy to move into the 21st century.

if the owner wants to put it online---even for a minute--it should have the latest, greatest of everything (software wise). and that includes 64 bit win 7 (which has IDENTICAL resource requirements to 32 bit). 64 bit doesn't demand any additional resources, it simply recognizes more of them. not upgrading to 64 bit when you have the chance is an open invitation to a lack of forward compatibility.

it's about as stupid as as not buying a ps2 because you're "afraid" it won't work with your ps1 games.

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Originally Posted by inperfectdarkness

if the owner wants to put it online---even for a minute--it should have the latest, greatest of everything (software wise). and that includes 64 bit win 7 (which has IDENTICAL resource requirements to 32 bit). 64 bit doesn't demand any additional resources, it simply recognizes more of them.

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No. They don't. Microsoft pretty clearly gives them different requirements. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...m-requirements

64 bit windows also requires a 64 bit processor. The majority of people have Intel machines and I think they have only been making 64bit processors for the past 5 or 6 years or so. Not really sure where your idea of 20 year old code comes from lol.

Just for clarification, Intel chips have been 64 bit since the Prescott P4's. AMD had it a little earlier (since they came up with it first and Intel took their cue) but I don't know their processor line up (admitted Intel fanboi :D ). So anything made in the last 6 years should handle 64-bit.


-Running win 7 x64 Ultimate, current install is exactly 1 year old. Hurray early release party! :)

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Originally Posted by Jeremy C

Just for clarification, Intel chips have been 64 bit since the Prescott P4's. AMD had it a little earlier (since they came up with it first and Intel took their cue) but I don't know their processor line up (admitted Intel fanboi :D ). So anything made in the last 6 years should handle 64-bit.


-Running win 7 x64 Ultimate, current install is exactly 1 year old. Hurray early release party! :)

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i would have waited for win 7 x64 instead of vista x64; but if i'd done that, i wouldn't have been able to get the wuxga screen. did i ever mention how much i despise the name "1080p"?

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Originally Posted by Jeremy C

Just for clarification, Intel chips have been 64 bit since the Prescott P4's. AMD had it a little earlier (since they came up with it first and Intel took their cue) but I don't know their processor line up (admitted Intel fanboi :D ). So anything made in the last 6 years should handle 64-bit.


-Running win 7 x64 Ultimate, current install is exactly 1 year old. Hurray early release party! :)

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<-- AMD fanboi :P I think they came out with their first 64 bit processors back in like 2002-2003 or so with the Opteron.

I have an older Prescott P4 with the EM64T instruction (before they started calling it Intel 64) it's really old. However, my motherboard (Dell 0YC523) will only support 4gb of ddr2 ram, which to me isn't worth running 64 bit OS on.

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Originally Posted by inperfectdarkness

since WHEN can a system that handles 32 bit win 7 not handle 64 bit win 7?

put down the crack pipe.

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Have you tried running e-manage ultimate on a 64-bit?

Just saying, there are reasons as to why you would still need 32-bit.

My statement before concerning resources was for 7 vs XP, which 7 requires more, x86 vs x64 isn't a question of resources for me if anything it's performance vs compatibility. Hardly a question at all, x64>x86. lol
Also my PC at work, I just upgraded from a Celeron D to a Pentium 4 with H/T, the P4 supports EM64T.

ictponder: Maybe use a 64bit OS to use the 64bit processing power of your CPU? lol It's not just about the RAM.

Oh, and AMD released the Athlon64 in '03, not sure about the Opteron though.