Getting new ECS struts. Am I going to wreck them with Tein H springs?

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Originally Posted by Jimvr4

I just replaced my ECS struts and lowered with Tein S Tech and H Tech (used both because of Spyder spring rates).

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You bought 2 sets of springs? Which ones did you use where? :)

Whether you get H or S techs, you may or may not have to install the adjustable arms. It has been hit and miss on what I have read elsewhere. I had the same ??? about 6 months ago and went with S techs, I am wanting coil overs now! Springs and arms are gonna be around $400, and double for for entry level coil overs.

I love the ECS with S techs. You get a comfy ride and when you want good cornering with stiffness. I just want the car lower now and want to autocross soon...

I found the front ECS struts for $126.00 on one of the mitsu parts sites...

My experience,

Bill

Sig is with S techs...

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Originally Posted by Geordon

I just spoke with my brother, who is a mechanic. He made a good counter point against those who say the shorter spring causes earlier strut failure due to it being compressed all the time. He said the strut is always under compression already, as can be demonstrated by jacking up the car -- the body must be lifted an inch or two before the wheel even starts to leave the floor, which means the strut wasn't fully extended to begin with.

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yep its all it does, doesn't do much els!
all it is is fluid that escapes to and forth from one cylinder to another cylinder and back again via a series of holes to slow it down.. nothing magical just a damper. even with ecs its the exact same thing only its controlled by an actuator that opens the holes wider or closes them back to original size.

makes no odds if the strut is way at the top or way at the bottom (provided it doesn't bottom out...but iit cant the spring will become coil bound first).

Thanks for the support, guys. I am convinced enough to go ahead with the Teins. Will only cost me $140 more than stock, as the shop will charge me more labor to reinstall the stock springs over the shorties.

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Originally Posted by thestealth

You bought 2 sets of springs? Which ones did you use where? :)

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Yes, the S Techs are in the front and the H Techs are in the back. With S Techs in back the Spyder would have sat a little too low especially with the top down :)

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Originally Posted by Geordon

Thanks for the support, guys. I am convinced enough to go ahead with the Teins. Will only cost me $140 more than stock, as the shop will charge me more labor to reinstall the stock springs over the shorties.

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huh?

its the same job! you mean they will charge more to fit a set of lowering springs than they will a set of stock? i'm confused! please explane this to me.... in the shops words!

its exactly the same job to remove the struts and fit whatever springs you want, no deviation from stock to lowered.

if anything they should charge less because the car wont sit as high :lol:

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Originally Posted by colt45 gto

huh?

its the same job! you mean they will charge more to fit a set of lowering springs than they will a set of stock? i'm confused! please explane this to me.... in the shops words!

its exactly the same job to remove the struts and fit whatever springs you want, no deviation from stock to lowered.

if anything they should charge less because the car wont sit as high :lol:

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Colt, you got it backwards. As I stated, the shop will charge less with lowering springs -- my guess is because they won't need to compress them, as the nut will thread onto the strut with Teins without using the compression tool The $140 increase is what it would cost me for Teins minus the upcharge w/o Teins. Make sense?

Maybe, I should just try and do it myself?

Its an easy job to do yourself. The stockers come apart by just getting an air gun on there, pointing them away from you and zapping the bolt off. I have done it about 3 times so far on my own car and twice for friends.

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Originally Posted by wraith

Its an easy job to do yourself. The stockers come apart by just getting an air gun on there.

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I guess that is where I am lacking. I have wrenches and a torque wrench, but my 1 1/2 gal air compressor was purchased strictly for airing up my tires. I have no pneumatic tools or specialty tools.

Make sure you use a penetrating oil a day or two before you or anyone else does the job!!!!

The nut 9 times out of 10 will snap the strut at the top and you will be spending more coin for new ones. If one breaks you should replace both.

The shop will not pony up for busting it either...