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I'm not a fan of subsidised abortions, but then again last year the average american paid $0.002 for these abortions. I do care about things, just not other peoples methods of birth controll. I avoid the fascist stance of telling people what they should do with their bodies and that grey area that is a fetus.
I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with it. My 2 second google search tells me its a flower. Be willing to check it out if you link me to something.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
1. I have no idea, nor do I think its relevant. I think rape victims should be allowed to get abortions. No, I don't think the government should pay for it.Quote:
I am not a fan of any sort of government subsidy, nor can I agree with the government substituting it's (a)morality for my own.
A few questions for you:
Out of 100 'unwanted pregnancies', how many do you suppose result from rape and incest?
The argument in favor of publically-funded abortion always comes down to the privacy issue, doesn't it?
Why should a reticence to confront the issue of a woman's privacy trump my concern over the cost of an abortion?
If a bum comes up to me on the street and demands money to resolve a 'private' issue, what is my obligation?
Further, knife-juggling can ruin your life as well; what do you suppose the government should do about that?
2. Umm... I'm not really sure. I don't think the government should be paying for abortions in any case. I could see where privacy could come in to play I suppose. I definitely would not support the government paying for abortions under any circumstances.
3. I'm not sure what this is stemming from, but I don't think it should? I'm not a woman and have never had an abortion. I didn't know they were handing things out for free now. If they are I would like to know who the idiot that came up with that idea is and why he isn't fired from whatever he does.
4. You have no obligation. I personally never give bums any money. On the rare occasion I do it's because they are bothering my girlfriend and it's the fastest way to get rid of them.
5. They shouldn't do anything about that. If I want to juggle knives then it's my right to juggle them till my dieing breath. If I cut myself, it's my body and I pay to fix it. Not really sure why the government would have any say here.
Read the last line of your post that I was quoting from and read the last line of my post addressing your post. The Severed finger, toss the baby line.Quote:
"Yes"...what will?
You are missing linkage, here.
At 24+ weeks, you're killing a baby. Seeing my son move at that age changed my entire outlook on abortion.
Abortion should be illegal at the mid 2nd trimester. If you don't want the child their are plently of adults who are on waiting lists just to adopt a baby, like my brother in law.
100% agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jtvr4
I could have sworn we were disagreeing - imagine my relief to find we are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaroth
We were disagreeing about what we were talking about. The questions you asked me were on a different topics. I can't think of any legitimate reason the government would ever have to pay for abortion. Our government does enough for freeloaders. You want an abortion, go out and get one yourself. That is definitely not something we need to be paying for.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaroth
State's Rights and everything, then, huh?
I'll be damned.