Microsoft Surface Tablet... 199$?! October 26th

[Mikes2nd]

Wow 32 gig vs 8 gig with a Nexus tablet?

500$ for an ipad? how about 2.5 surface tablets? they have usb ports and sd ram slots!

Kinda makes those guys look like suckers if its true.

Windows RT Tablet Prices and Release Dates: $199, 10/26 Targets - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/netapp/2012/08/14/windows-rt-tablet-price-release-date-otoh/)

Acer is crying... Im sure Dell, HP, Toshiba are stinging.

Im sure MS is thinking paybacks are a b*tch, enjoy your measly android tablet sales?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57491529-92/dont-price-surface-at-$199-pleads-acer/

[vroom4]

You know how many times Microsoft has thought they were going to overtake Apples market? A TON. How many times have they done it? Well, lets just say I dont know a single person that I socialize with on a daily basis with a Microsoft Zune, Windows phone, or any table other than an Ipad.

[stealthee]

Garrett you should just learn to ignore Mike's troll posts. He got Microsoft's dick so far up his ass that he is choking on it.

[vroom4]

Oh, I dont really read the tech stuff too often. carry on then :)

[Mikes2nd]

I see some android tablets. Yes most sheep have bloody ipads

Stealthee is too busy choking on steve jobs corpse bung hole to notice any other tech... Apple fanboi

Im just saying... if 200$... sell your apple stock

[Alan92RTTT]

Yep, selling something for less that is costs is always a road to success. :rolleyes:

MS is hoping app sales will help it break even. This is the same thing they do with the xbox.

Personally I doubt they will sell enough apps to make it profitable.

[Mikes2nd]

yeah they wont sell Windows 8... no one is going to upgrade their PC's... you guys are so farking high...

[green-lantern]

I would be interested in it.

[stealthee]

I see some android tablets. Yes most sheep have bloody ipads

Stealthee is too busy choking on steve jobs corpse bung hole to notice any other tech... Apple fanboi

Im just saying... if 200$... sell your apple stock

LOL. I am FAR from an Apple fanboi. I'd love to see Apple fail just to see their fanbois cry.

[vroom4]

yeah they wont sell Windows 8... no one is going to upgrade their PC's... you guys are so farking high...

Huh?I thought you were talking about tablets?

[Alan92RTTT]

Thats standard Mike.

If you make a point he can't defend he posts an answer that has the "see I won" attitude but has nothing to do with what you posted.

Its kind of sad when you think about it.

[Intropy]

Yeah that comment was kind of a non-sequitur.

Anyway, to clear up any confusion, Microsoft has proposed two different "Surface" tablets. One will run Windows RT on an ARM processor and compete more-or-less directly with the iPad and Android tablets. The other is an Intel-based PC that will run Windows 8.

The $200 price point, which is complete hearsay at this point, is referring to the RT version. Of course, there is no spec sheet for it (we don't even know basic things like screen resolution, much less the actual hardware), and Windows RT is still in development. So it's not clear that a $200 price is even that outlandish or worth getting worked up about.

[stealthify]

I'm interested in trying it, but my expectations are clearly a bit lower than yours, Mike. :p

[Intropy]

The $200 price point, which is complete hearsay at this point, is referring to the RT version. Of course, there is no spec sheet for it (we don't even know basic things like screen resolution, much less the actual hardware), and Windows RT is still in development. So it's not clear that a $200 price is even that outlandish or worth getting worked up about.

And just to drive this point home a little more, you can already walk into Best Buy and purchase a netbook running full-blown Windows 7 for $2-300, so a $200 price point actually seems about right.

[anyonebutme]

I don't think I know ANYBODY who owns a tablet...don't think I want to either...

[ictponder]

I want one simply to manage/stream my music while at home (I have Zune Music Pass). I also want to see how it works in conjection with my xbox.

[Zaroth]

I don't think I know ANYBODY who owns a tablet...don't think I want to either...

You must not know many people. I know tons of people that own tablets... Women, Techies, even older people.

[green-lantern]

I want one simply to watch porn while at home (I have Zune Music Pass).

Fixed

[ictponder]

Fixed

Good thing it has a kickstand lol

[anyonebutme]

You must not know many people. I know tons of people that own tablets... Women, Techies, even older people.

I'd like to think I know a lot of people. I guess none of them think carrying around an overgrown phone the size of a smaller laptop has a point.

[Zaroth]

I'd like to think I know a lot of people. I guess none of them think carrying around an overgrown phone the size of a smaller laptop has a point.

These are media consumption devices. If you don't like reading online articles, getting on facebook, watching netflix, reading digital books, etc... then these are not for you. In the digital age we live in though, there is a huge market for convenient devices to consume media.

Cell phone screens are pretty tough to look at for extended periods of time and a laptop is bulky to carry around. These tablets offer an in between solution. I personally don't own one, but I know plenty of people that are very happy with theirs.

[Alan92RTTT]

How Microsoft could make a $199 Surface RT a reality, and why it shouldn’t | Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/08/how-microsoft-could-make-a-199-surface-rt-a-reality-and-why-it-shouldnt/)

$199 is a crazy price for a well-built, well-designed, 10" tablet. It's not completely impossible, and there are ways in which the economics could be made to work. But the results for Microsoft and the PC OEMs alike would be nothing short of a disaster.

[Mikes2nd]

its a disaster for the OEM's... Not so much consumers.

But so is apple and people love it.

If MS "can" make better hardware than Acer... why not? From the specs/pics Surface beats anything Acer/Dell/HP have ever put out...

I didn't see Acer go "no ms we won't build android tablets, we will wait with you".

The author mentions nothing of the OEM's falling all over themselves to tout and build android tablets. Sure MS f'ed up sitting on its hands with tablets, but it takes time to bridge tablets/PC's/Phones. But they didn't make squat from android tablets between the R&D and testing/start costs. Not to mention everyone and their brother makes a crappy android tablet.

You couldnt expect them to be able to turn around a OS system that can run on everything in 6 months.

This guy is high thinking MS is charging 85$ a Windows copy.

MS hardware has normally always been good stuff. Seriously compare MS mice to Logitech... Logitech is crap compared.

I still use old school MS trackmans...

http://www.mycashop.com/products/52819/

[CoreyB]

If this thing is as nice as I think it could be, I would be interested.

[Alan92RTTT]

I had a long post in mind to reply to mike.


I realized it's not worth my time to type it in as it won't get through to Mike. The rest of us get it.



Thoes that are not MS Fanboi's carry on.

[jspecmike]

For 199 I would buy one but I would not pay 400-500 for that haha

[IPD]

i'll weigh in.

MS took up the torch with this one because with almost no exception, non-apple tablets are pure fail. MS said "f-that", and decided that if its associate companies can't do it right, that it would manufacture a great tablet in-house. acer is butt hurt because their product offerings are tepid at best. MS doesn't need to make money on this--they've proven they're willing to burn piles of it just to succeed. what it will do is kick-start a stagnant market segment and highlight how overpriced apple products are in this segment as well. i'm no MS fanboi, but i do respect what they're doing...since pretty much every other company has failed to innovate here. same holds true for laptop screen resolutions.

that said, tablet users will probably love windows 8. those of us in "the functional world" will abhor it. MS has a history of bringing the suck with every other OS they release--and win 8 will be another sucky one. no windows button? are you high? i can promise you that win 8 will NEVER be adopted for corporate purposes...it is entirely designed around low-end user interface.

[Alan92RTTT]

MS needs their OEM's They don't have the manufacturing infrastructure to create the number of tablets that this pricing will mean. If the OEM's can't release their own tablet versions at a competitive price they won't release them at all. That will raise MS's cost per unit and make it even hard for them to recoup the costs via app sales.

I would not be surprised to see some of the OEM's just tell MS to f'off and not make tab's for them at all. A Tab for $199 on the market would mess things us for all of the android tabs that are not sales supported(IE kindle)

[IPD]

MS needs their OEM's They don't have the manufacturing infrastructure to create the number of tablets that this pricing will mean. If the OEM's can't release their own tablet versions at a competitive price they won't release them at all. That will raise MS's cost per unit and make it even hard for them to recoup the costs via app sales.

I would not be surprised to see some of the OEM's just tell MS to f'off and not make tab's for them at all. A Tab for $199 on the market would mess things us for all of the android tabs that are not sales supported(IE kindle)

precisely. and MS has already acknowledged that there will be some honked-off OEM's because of it. but look at the big picture. MS has an opportunity to stop bleeding OS market-share, and potentially gain some. it's a corporate gamble. similar to how sony bet on blu-ray, and sacrificed ps3 success to do it.

[Mikes2nd]

Your on crack if you don't think MS doesn't have the muscle to make a frigging tablet... Or brain dead.

Yeah OEM's are giving up on Win 8... and their lives... just closing up shop! hah brilliance...

[onebadmollafolla]

You're on crack if you don't think MS doesn't have the muscle to make a frigging tablet... Or brain dead.

Yeah OEM's are giving up on Win 8... and their lives... just closing up shop! hah brilliance...

Microsoft has the "muscle" to make a tablet. The contingency is whether or not it will be successful. Post up results after due time (~6 months) for an idea on how successful it was. We all understand you are trying quite hard and can appreciate the matter. We just want to make sure you take the proactive steps in seeming credible. What this means is, how will this tablet do, relative to what is out there. It's merely in the best interest of you, champ. :)