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Blackmount
01-31-2012, 06:47 PM
Sooo some of u already know my deal but for those who don't

My SL is getting heavy knock lately. Started two weeks ago. Doing a Pull and car read zero knock then shifted into 3rd and went WOT again and knock spiked to 20 some odd counts and and slowly cleared up as i went through the rpms. Thought it was wierd so i did samething again. And it did the samething. So parked it for the night. Havent had time to mess with it or even drive it cause ive been out of town. So most i did was retard the CAS a little. Brought my knock counts overall to under 20. So it helped a little but its close to fully retarded now.

So today i took a long drive with the car to do some more logging.

Problem worsens the longer u drive it. I started showing knock as high as 10 counts at about 2500rpms if i went passed 30% throttle according to my loggeer. It would start at one or two. Then slowly increase as i accelerated. The only im not knock as much or at all is WOT at just under 6000rpms, and Up.

My timing at WOT is 17*. Up until 2 weeks ago. I was running 23* timing with an occasionaly 1 or 2 count knock AT MOST on the logger.

I try to run my datalogger at least once a week to catch problems such as this.

Specs. 92 3000GT DOHC with 93 engine. Running full 92 management.
93 octane Gasoline
K&N Airfilter
Intake Hardpipe
3sx Downpipe
Test Pipe.

Those r all my engine related things.

CoopKill
01-31-2012, 06:51 PM
Bad gas... /thread

Blackmount
01-31-2012, 06:53 PM
I have put fresh gas in twice now from 2 different stations. In two completely different areas.

green-lantern
01-31-2012, 07:01 PM
Sort of sounds like phantom knock to me. Any race gas in your area? Put some race gas in and if it goes away it's probably real knock.

Blackmount
01-31-2012, 07:13 PM
Yes a gas station in hendersonville sells 104 for like 8$ a gallon i think. I can see about it.

3000gttom
01-31-2012, 07:40 PM
yea i just did some logs and my 99 sl gets knock at 2500-3300 rpm, never more than 5 and only at high load,
the afr at those rpm is set for 13.1 at high load on the stock ecu but with the afr cycle (+/- 0.5 unconfirmed) that could be as lean as 13.6 which may be too lean

Blackmount
01-31-2012, 07:58 PM
This sucksss.. I drive kike a grandma now. Takes me like 1/4 mile to get up to 40.

3000gttom
01-31-2012, 08:45 PM
i wouldnt worry too much, its probably a combo between weak spot in the tune and bad gas thats causing ur problem

Blackmount
01-31-2012, 09:07 PM
I already ruled out bad gas by having gas from different places

3000gttom
02-01-2012, 01:44 AM
well im no expert but here's the maps from the ecu if your intersted, maybe a bad knock sensor, or too much timing

Blackmount
02-01-2012, 10:17 AM
.....................Read my whole thread before u post so u dont try and give a solution thats already been covered.


Im going to tare into the car when i get back in town next week/this weekend. Im pretty sure somethings loose and its phantom knock.

Will post my findings.

Roybatty
02-01-2012, 10:35 AM
Check your plugs...could be some fouling/gap issues.

Blackmount
02-01-2012, 10:39 AM
Plugs new, NGK manual spec plugs gapped at the manuals specs.

Roybatty
02-01-2012, 10:44 AM
Recent plug install...try reducing gap to see if it helps with knock...especially since your intake and exhaust are not.