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green-lantern
01-22-2012, 06:44 PM
I want to try and record a music video for my kids. I just got back from the recording studio last night at 2am and pretty happy with the results. Still haven't mastered it but put a decent mix on the new song and redid some vocals on some others.

Anyway I need some tips as far as editing software and....well any other advice would be great. I plan to do some live type footage and some other action stuff. They have a big party to play on the 4th and they have the high school dance coming up so I can get some footage there.

So any of you AV guys/gals can point me in the right direction that would be great. Also any ideas for the video would be cool.

Thanks in advance


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13TnU-ZWRxU

on youtube with lyrics

CoopKill
01-22-2012, 07:18 PM
I have Sony Vegas, Adobe Premier Pro, and Ulead Video Studio...

Listed hardest to easiest to learn. You can do most things in the Ulead software, but are limited in some areas.

Sony, and Adobe are top notch progs where you will get a lot of preference based opinions, rather than which is better. They are extremely different in the work flow, and layout. After learning Ulead first, then Premier, Sony took some time to get used to.

End result will all be great, depending on what your expectations/learning curve will be...

I purposely did not recommend specifically one due to they have a varying price associated to each. The Ulead is the cheapest, and the easiest to learn basics.

Split your raw footage into scenes before trying to edit/splice together. Start with a diagram/script of what you want it to be to save going back and rearranging footage many times.

If you are using multiple camera footage (meaning different cameras), make sure the settings are as close as possible to keep the end result from looking patched/cheap.

Go out and get footage of anything to practice, practice, practice with. Experiment with things to get an idea of all the things that can be done/created with different effects.

In the end, great editing will look far better than a bunch of effects that add nothing to the story...

P.S.

Concentrate on composition, and scene editing before you venture into effects, and color correction stuff...

green-lantern
01-22-2012, 09:31 PM
Click this link for sample music
Myspace Music Player (http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=86367443&ac=now)















Some band pics

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/125/8246ad55d9424f45a51d715dbba48e34/l.jpg

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/133/76d55f04420c40d9ac4c40dd5659fda5/l.jpg

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/130/bbf70cdfaec14dc7b3522d2e8b004671/l.jpg

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/130/16f81a1b1bf04987b8f3e1b64ae24f5f/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/126/53cbd879951f4148b958aa5b5c76fadd/l.png

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/125/4d7b104e66894d818d8fd5f5c1a15eba/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/133/f99f7213d9414c0a9c309054b67606b2/l.jpg

green-lantern
01-22-2012, 09:38 PM
I have Sony Vegas, Adobe Premier Pro, and Ulead Video Studio...

Listed hardest to easiest to learn. You can do most things in the Ulead software, but are limited in some areas.

Sony, and Adobe are top notch progs where you will get a lot of preference based opinions, rather than which is better. They are extremely different in the work flow, and layout. After learning Ulead first, then Premier, Sony took some time to get used to.

End result will all be great, depending on what your expectations/learning curve will be...

I purposely did not recommend specifically one due to they have a varying price associated to each. The Ulead is the cheapest, and the easiest to learn basics.

Split your raw footage into scenes before trying to edit/splice together. Start with a diagram/script of what you want it to be to save going back and rearranging footage many times.

If you are using multiple camera footage (meaning different cameras), make sure the settings are as close as possible to keep the end result from looking patched/cheap.

Go out and get footage of anything to practice, practice, practice with. Experiment with things to get an idea of all the things that can be done/created with different effects.

In the end, great editing will look far better than a bunch of effects that add nothing to the story...

P.S.

Concentrate on composition, and scene editing before you venture into effects, and color correction stuff...

Thanks a bunch, This is going to be a cool project. Too bad you don't live closer, I could use some help :p

CoopKill
01-22-2012, 10:27 PM
I would in a second... It's fun stuff, just takes time to create.

green-lantern
01-22-2012, 10:43 PM
I would in a second... It's fun stuff, just takes time to create.

I posted a link to the song we recorded last night. tell me what you think unless you hate it :lo5l:

CoopKill
01-22-2012, 11:08 PM
I think it's pretty tight for their ages for sure. Did they write all of it?

The drumming is a bit loose on the snare, but the old school punk feel is cool. The vocals are tight, as is the rest... I think the the growling at 2:16 should be incorporated more throughout the song to give it more of a modern edge, but that's my preference and may not be where they want to go with it.

Pretty heavy subject matter too. Which is yours?

nodoze
01-22-2012, 11:19 PM
is that beiber on drums? jk jk good track man imo drop the whoa whoa parts it seems conflicting with the growl

green-lantern
01-23-2012, 10:33 AM
I think it's pretty tight for their ages for sure. Did they write all of it?

The drumming is a bit loose on the snare, but the old school punk feel is cool. The vocals are tight, as is the rest... I think the the growling at 2:16 should be incorporated more throughout the song to give it more of a modern edge, but that's my preference and may not be where they want to go with it.

Pretty heavy subject matter too. Which is yours?

You could say they’re all mine. They’re all adopted except for the bass player but he lives with us lol. The three all have the same mother but obviously the youngest (drummer) has a different father. The mother was a friend of ours. She was killed in a car wreck and the father of the oldest two was shot dead before that. The youngest father is alive but pretty much worthless.

My daughter writes the lyrics and the rest of them write the music. I produce it :D



is that beiber on drums?

:lo5l: He gets that all the time.


good track man imo drop the whoa whoa parts it seems conflicting with the growl

I thought about dropping one or the other. I thought the scream-o part didn’t really go with the song but left it in there for now anyway. I might drop the other part and do like Coop said and put more scream-o parts in it.

green-lantern
01-23-2012, 08:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13TnU-ZWRxU

on youtube with lyrics

CoopKill
01-23-2012, 09:44 PM
Remember by incorporating the growl more, you will be moving the genre of the music out of the pop area into a mixed genre. This could be good, or bad depending on where the rest of their music lies.

The more I listen to it, the more the back up vocals really fit, but I also like the growling as it edges it out for me. Maybe try dubbing the growl under the chorus "Don't stand in your way" line and see...

They are really impressive at that age. Keep em busy, interested, and on track, and they are really something to be proud of...

green-lantern
01-24-2012, 07:22 AM
Remember by incorporating the growl more, you will be moving the genre of the music out of the pop area into a mixed genre. This could be good, or bad depending on where the rest of their music lies.

The more I listen to it, the more the back up vocals really fit, but I also like the growling as it edges it out for me. Maybe try dubbing the growl under the chorus "Don't stand in your way" line and see...

They are really impressive at that age. Keep em busy, interested, and on track, and they are really something to be proud of...

I was thinking where he is doing the backups and sort of talking, have that more of a screaming chant. IDK, the more I listen the more I think it all works as is. We still got lots of mixing and it needs to be mastered so we will still play around with it. We got two more songs recorded right now but I’m thinking of rerecording them. I’ll post one of them later. It’s a good song but there are some timing issues I don’t think I can let slide.

Thanks for the complements, I’m very proud of them and they are pretty dedicated. I started them pretty young and they stuck with it. My daughter was supposed to be the bass player but she just wasn’t digging it at the time. She can play it but when she got the opportunity to sing she was all over that lol.

AgentOblivious
01-24-2012, 07:13 PM
FOURCHORDS!!!


Lol good stuff...how was it recorded?

green-lantern
01-24-2012, 07:35 PM
FOURCHORDS!!!


Lol good stuff...how was it recorded?

A guy near here records out of his house. Pretty funny because you pull up and it's an old shack but there's about 80k of equipment inside. He's using protools software I believe.

AgentOblivious
01-24-2012, 09:21 PM
A guy near here records out of his house. Pretty funny because you pull up and it's an old shack but there's about 80k of equipment inside. He's using protools software I believe.

Oh okay. My uncle does the same thing, he has his old living room set up as a full studio. His house doesn't look like a shack however.

green-lantern
01-25-2012, 08:28 AM
Oh okay. My uncle does the same thing, he has his old living room set up as a full studio. His house doesn't look like a shack however.

That’s cool, years ago I did all my own recording but I don’t anymore (except for info/practice/fun).

His place isn’t too bad inside. It’s nice and clean. I think he doesn’t fix up the outside just because the equipment inside is probably worth twice what the house is worth. Lol It defiantly doesn’t look like the type place you would want to rob.

nodoze
01-25-2012, 02:22 PM
idk i dont like the pop whoa whoa good charloette esq type music but alot of people do , i dont like growls much either unless your pulling them off like mudvayne or slipknot does but keep doing what your doing and evolving your craft thats what music is about experimenting ...... just dont use dubtechno i mean dubstep