Wiring(non-automotive)

[jbuhrman]

Hey I need to wire up something.

I have a plug such as the far right on this picture
http://www.homedepot.com/hdus/en_US/DTCCOM/HomePage/Know_How/Buying_Guides/Building_Supplies_Buying_Guide/Heat_Vent_Cool_Buying_Guides/Air_Conditioners/Images/0912_plugrequirements.jpg

And I have a 3 wire 220 volt appliance.

Which wire goes to which prong??

[dbest671]

I not 100% sure but, the two top prongs are power wires (110v each) and the bottom one is the ground wire.

[jbuhrman]

Ive been talking with Mike(VR3.9) on FB and I have been told I made a bad purchase(230V Mig welder) and Im trying to use it at my apartment which is normal home wiring which will not work for my plan/wants.

[dbest671]

Their right, I assumed you already had a 220V outlet and just need to wire a plug.

Here a nice write up:
http://www.xomba.com/how_to_wire_a_220v_wall_outlet

[jbuhrman]

Their right, I assumed you already had a 220V outlet and just need to wire a plug.

Here a nice write up:
http://www.xomba.com/how_to_wire_a_220v_wall_outlet

No, I only have a normal 110V outlet but was going to use a step up transformer.

[TocVR4]

You would be better off making an outlet than using a step up transformer.

[stealthee]

Turn the power and grab each wire to figure out which is power and which is ground.

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/lol.gif

Seriously, there has to be instructions online somewhere. Just have to googlefoo it.

[jbuhrman]

You would be better off making an outlet than using a step up transformer.

I live in an apartment so hacking into the wall is not really an option I can use


Turn the power and grab each wire to figure out which is power and which is ground.

I think what Ill do is just pack it up and put it in the closet and pick up one I can use with normal wall outlet
http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/lol.gif

Seriously, there has to be instructions online somewhere. Just have to googlefoo it.

[Steve '92ES]

This is one of those simple questions that's not so simple.
First off, let me say that the write-up that was posted has several errors (only some were pointed out in the comments). For one thing the panel he's coming out of is wired wrong! Please do not follow his
advise, he doesn't know what he's doing...
Now some questions:
Did your new appliance come with a plug? Or does it have lose wires hanging out of it?
What are the ratings of the new appliance?
Do you have access to the circuit panel, and permission to add to it?
What is the capacity of the panel, and is there room in it for the new appliance?
(both physical slots for a new two pole breaker and capacity to handle the new appliance)
What kind of construction are you going to have to run the new wiring through?
Is this a dwelling (house) or garage? Commercial? Will there be gas or other hazardous/explosive material around?

Setting up a welder at a rental apartment is kind of an ambitious project. You might want to re-think it. Even if you get it going where can do any work? In the kitchen? Maybe a friend's or parent's garage would work out better?


Seriously, there has to be instructions online somewhere. Just have to googlefoo it.
Because of the variables involved, and the liability, I doubt you'll find anyone that knows what they're doing offering free how-tos on the interweb...

Steve (Yup, I'm a licensed electrician... :) )

[jbuhrman]

This is one of those simple questions that's not so simple.
First off, let me say that the write-up that was posted has several errors (only some were pointed out in the comments). For one thing the panel he's coming out of is wired wrong! Please do not follow his
advise, he doesn't know what he's doing...
Now some questions:
Did your new appliance come with a plug? Or does it have lose wires hanging out of it?
What are the ratings of the new appliance?
Do you have access to the circuit panel, and permission to add to it?
What is the capacity of the panel, and is there room in it for the new appliance?
(both physical slots for a new two pole breaker and capacity to handle the new appliance)
What kind of construction are you going to have to run the new wiring through?
Is this a dwelling (house) or garage? Commercial? Will there be gas or other hazardous/explosive material around?

Setting up a welder at a rental apartment is kind of an ambitious project. You might want to re-think it. Even if you get it going where can do any work? In the kitchen? Maybe a friend's or parent's garage would work out better?


Because of the variables involved, and the liability, I doubt you'll find anyone that knows what they're doing offering free how-tos on the interweb...

Steve (Yup, I'm a licensed electrician... :) )



Steve,

Thank you for the reply, Im just going to either sell or pack up the current welder and get one that will work. Then when we get a house(we just moved to CA so didnt have time to look around enough) then do some wiring(if we buy Ill just have an electrician come and wire a outlet for me so I dont screw it up/die)

[Steve '92ES]

I wish I had an easy solution for you, but you're better off waiting until you get your house.
We wouldn't want anything to happen to your car now would we... :) :)

[jbuhrman]

I wish I had an easy solution for you, but you're better off waiting until you get your house.
We wouldn't want anything to happen to your car now would we... :) :)


LOL I should have done more research before buying it but Ill live, I got it used so I only spent $80 for it and a grinder so atleast the grinder will still work for me. Ill just post it up on craigslist for $50