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mb7050
10-13-2011, 03:03 PM
I have been wondering about this for awhile. Anyone running a different oil filtration system ? I did a fair bit of search and couldnīt find much but one post about Matt running a remote filter in his race car .

Benefits of dual oil filter set up
-more oil
-much better filtering
-more flow
-probably cools the oil down some
-benefit of two huge filters is that they will not go into bypass mode, until very dirty.
-With two filters, you may want to run one filter that can trap much smaller particles than usual.
-You can see that the best filtering units, have the lowest flow. With two filters, you can have the best of both worlds
CB Performance - Online Catalog (http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=218)

there is also the amsoil. The Amsoil block is a bypass unit, with a bypass, it takes one to catch the smaller stuff, and the other to filter the oil like normal so you don't affect flow to catch the smaller particles.

"When we took this Chevrolet 396 engine apart (By-Pass Oil Filter setup), it was in the best condition of any engine I have ever seen. It looked like it had about 80,000 miles on it instead of over 535,000. The bearings were not even worn to the brass and the rings were not worn out. It was clean inside, no sludge or carbon at all."
http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/18253923+w750+st0/129_0905_02_z+amsoil_bypass_oil_filter+bmk_26_kit. jpg

negatives of the oem system:Most oil filters will not be able to flow all the oil volume through the filtering media at higher RPM. Especially not the tiny Mitsubishi sized ones. That is why they have bypass valves in them, that open at around 15 PSI differential pressure.Most filters do not filter when the oil is cold, or at higher RPM, and all the flow goes through the bypass valves, circulating your dirty oil.
There is a good thread about this: http://www.3sgto.org/f13/oil-filter-options-1356.html

mb7050
10-13-2011, 03:22 PM
Anyone running a Larger Oil Filter ? One that fits fits the oem oil filter housing or a relocation kit like Permacool part number PRM-10695
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/prm-10695_w.jpg
You have more filter area to push the oil across, so it takes less pressure to flow the same amount of oil.
supra guys have reported that it does raise the oil pressure due to a decrease in flow resistance.However, the amount it raised the oil pressure is not going to cause an issue with wear or leaking seals.


I would think any filter that uses the same thread pitch and size with the same gasket size will work on the 3s.

mb7050
10-13-2011, 03:31 PM
one way to do it would be:

an oil filter adapter from Canton Racing or similar:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/Pumbajr/OilFilterAdapter.jpg

use 12 AN fittings and lines to greatly reduce system pressure.

a dual oil filter mount of your choice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/Pumbajr/OilFilterMount.jpg

now where would you mount the dual filters ?

i3igpete
10-13-2011, 03:32 PM
I was considering this for awhile since it's pretty cheap to do, but wasn't able to find a location with the empty space to mount two filters with minimum line length.

UTRacerX9
10-13-2011, 04:02 PM
I have a Canton, the larger anodized spin on one. I wouldn't recommend it if you have lowered the car, as it sticks out a tiny bit past the frame member. No complaints, and it does hold about 1/4 more of a quart of oil, not that it makes much difference.

mb7050
10-13-2011, 05:03 PM
The fact that canton filters donīt have the by-pass valve and there are many people having issues with them makes me not want to use them .

http://www.3si.org/forum/f35/canton-oil-filter-not-good-485483/

http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/another-canton-mecca-cm-filter-not-good-thread-501533/index2.html

UTRacerX9
10-13-2011, 05:14 PM
I don't see anyone really having issues with them... just concerns. The one had a dented cage, but that could have been from installation error for all we know. My own experience is, I've run mine for a few years now, (though I've probably only done about 3 oil changes in that time) and about 5-6k miles, and the filter element looks fine when I remove it.

mb7050
10-13-2011, 05:34 PM
I would still prefer using one with a by-pass valve.

the reason is because the oil pump has an internal bypass valve which will kick in in case of an excessive pressure before the filter and will direct the oil around in a circle within the pump body not where it needs to be,, the relief valve on oil filter sends unfiltered oil to the engine.
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8862/oilsystem.gif

MR2
10-17-2011, 09:54 AM
I've been running the Ryco Z148 for around a year with no issues.. it's 102mm not 76mm tall. (Wix Part number) 51347 I think?)

would be keen to run a dual somewhere nice and easy to get to...make filter changes take seconds...beauuutiful.

Chris@Rvengeperformance
10-17-2011, 05:57 PM
you mean this beast:

Amazon.com: Wix 51347 Spin-On Lube Filter, Pack of 1: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Wix-51347-Spin--Lube-Filter/dp/B000C9WLDS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318885019&sr=8-1)

MR2
10-17-2011, 06:01 PM
Search for oil, fuel or air filters by part number : Air Filters, Oil Filters and Fuel Filters :: Ryco Filters :: Automotive Filters Australia (http://www.rycofilters.com.au/catalogue/product/category/ROIL/sales/SP/ccsd-height-oaf/100/ccsd-seal-diameter/63/ccsd-seam-diameterf/80/ccsd-seam-diametert/86/ccsd-thread/M20-1.5/part/Z148A)

that.

I was looking through another forum and they said that Wix filter was compatible ....but the size is wayy larger

mb3000
10-17-2011, 06:04 PM
you mean this beast:

Amazon.com: Wix 51347 Spin-On Lube Filter, Pack of 1: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Wix-51347-Spin--Lube-Filter/dp/B000C9WLDS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318885019&sr=8-1)

Are you running that filter? Looks huge!

Chris@Rvengeperformance
10-17-2011, 06:30 PM
if that thing fits I sure would, I'll try to get one at the parts store.

Chris@Rvengeperformance
10-17-2011, 06:42 PM
threads are the same, but the gasket surface isn't :(

Part Detail (http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51347)

Search for oil, fuel or air filters by part number : Air Filters, Oil Filters and Fuel Filters :: Ryco Filters :: Automotive Filters Australia (http://www.rycofilters.com.au/catalogue/product/category/ROIL/sales/SP/ccsd-height-oaf/100/ccsd-seal-diameter/63/ccsd-seam-diameterf/80/ccsd-seam-diametert/86/ccsd-thread/M20-1.5/part/Z148A)

MR2
10-17-2011, 07:32 PM
well, it's a cheap alternative until we go HARDCORE :p

this engine is pretty much disposable so I'm reasonably happy to play around

Chris@Rvengeperformance
10-17-2011, 07:46 PM
well, it's a cheap alternative until we go HARDCORE :p

this engine is pretty much disposable so I'm reasonably happy to play around

judging from the specs it won't fit, do you have other info?

MR2
10-17-2011, 07:51 PM
the Z148A is what I'm currently using, can't help you other than that at this stage (here in AU we don't have the range of filters you Americans do)