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Nationalmilkman
09-24-2011, 11:30 AM
How well/reliable are the auto AWD trans?
I love the reliability of the N/A but would like the fun of the AWD. I know that someone will say "buy a TT" but my N/A will start every morning and I'd trust that thing to drive anywhere.
Was looking at them and thought it would be cool.
Hans@GZP
09-24-2011, 12:17 PM
They are just as reliable as the fwd version. You just need to keep it well maintained.
Nationalmilkman
09-24-2011, 12:22 PM
Saw a few on eBay for super cheap, why? No one want these?
My '95 R/T has what looks like the bolt pattern on the trans for the transfer case. Was this the same trans as a DSM? I've heard but didn't know.
Hans@GZP
09-24-2011, 12:26 PM
They are cheap because there are no awd automatic 3/s's in this country :p
Your R/T has what looks to be a mount for a t-case, but I can assure you it is not.
The internals of our non-turbo transmissions are the same as a DSM, it's the casing that is different
They are cheap because there are no awd automatic 3/s's in this country :p
Your R/T has what looks to be a mount for a t-case, but I can assure you it is not.
The internals of our non-turbo transmissions are the same as a DSM, it's the casing that is different
this.
the hidden gem of the 3/s world is that awd atx is dirt cheap because they never sold them OEM with that configuration in the US. mine was $300 shipped, and it's working like a champ--i didn't even rebuild it--and that's on a tt engine.
the xfer case is the same with DSM's. the rear end is the same as 2g vr4/tt's. the driveshaft is virtually identical to the 6-speed driveshaft, except for the nipple. as hans said, bellhousing is different; internals are the same. what that means is that there's a LOT MORE parts and suppliers for internals on them than on the 5 or 6 speed awd trans.
i've had mine for over a year (it was installed used) and no problems. i always flush my trans fluid every 15k (probably a bit excessive, but i err on the side of caution) and it always comes out pink like new. all you really need for top-end durability is a trans cooler & a magnetic inline filter. change the inline filter every 15k & you shouldn't have any problems at all.
p.s.
i think i ordered mine from JDM depot. they have a dragon logo, i think. haven't heard anything negative from them, and i've heard a couple other 3/s owners who were satisfied with them as well.
p.p.s.
http://www.jdmenginedepot.com/jdm_product_details/81/Transmissions_JDM_MITSUBISHI_3000GT,_GTO/DODGE_STEALTH_AWD_NON-TURBO_AUTOMATIC_TRANSMISSION-6G72
like i said, dirt cheap. that's not a bad thing, trust me. at this price, you can strip it & rebuild it ground-up with the most expensive shit you can find...and it will STILL cost less than an OEM 5 or 6 speed.
p.p.p.s.
check out my blog.
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this.
the hidden gem of the 3/s world is that awd atx is dirt cheap because they never sold them OEM with that configuration in the US. mine was $300 shipped, and it's working like a champ--i didn't even rebuild it--and that's on a tt engine.
the xfer case is the same with DSM's. the rear end is the same as 2g vr4/tt's. the driveshaft is virtually identical to the 6-speed driveshaft, except for the nipple. as hans said, bellhousing is different; internals are the same. what that means is that there's a LOT MORE parts and suppliers for internals on them than on the 5 or 6 speed awd trans.
i've had mine for over a year (it was installed used) and no problems. i always flush my trans fluid every 15k (probably a bit excessive, but i err on the side of caution) and it always comes out pink like new. all you really need for top-end durability is a trans cooler & a magnetic inline filter. change the inline filter every 15k & you shouldn't have any problems at all.
p.s.
i think i ordered mine from JDM depot. they have a dragon logo, i think. haven't heard anything negative from them, and i've heard a couple other 3/s owners who were satisfied with them as well.
p.p.s.
JDM Engine Depot (http://www.jdmenginedepot.com/jdm_product_details/81/Transmissions_JDM_MITSUBISHI_3000GT,_GTO/DODGE_STEALTH_AWD_NON-TURBO_AUTOMATIC_TRANSMISSION-6G72)
like i said, dirt cheap. that's not a bad thing, trust me. at this price, you can strip it & rebuild it ground-up with the most expensive shit you can find...and it will STILL cost less than an OEM 5 or 6 speed.
p.p.p.s.
check out my blog.
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Thinking of doing this for my summer build
Emilie@GZP
10-23-2011, 08:50 AM
I loved my atx awd tt. A lot of people laughed at me (including Hans) until they drove it. TONS of fun :).
I loved my atx awd tt. A lot of people laughed at me (including Hans) until they drove it. TONS of fun :).
and if the gal who currently owns it could be talked down to a grand or so, i'd consider buying it...as i already have a spare motor that i just pulled from my car.
Emilie@GZP
10-23-2011, 12:18 PM
She wants enough to cover her flight.... Shouldn't be hard. LOL. The car itself is super clean, no that, etc. No idea what condition the paint is in now since its been sitting outside for 2+ years. But I had repainted let's of it just before she bought it.
Emilie@GZP
10-23-2011, 12:19 PM
*no rust
green-lantern
10-23-2011, 04:08 PM
Who is selling it and what is wrong with it?
Hans@GZP
10-23-2011, 05:02 PM
Blown engine. The chick Em sold it to got it to overheat for god knows how long. It's sitting about a mile from my shop right now and she lives in GA. Last time we checked... it was still titled in Em's name and we sold it to her about 3 years ago.
2fnloud
10-23-2011, 08:32 PM
time to go collect that puppy up.
green-lantern
10-23-2011, 08:58 PM
Blown engine. The chick Em sold it to got it to overheat for god knows how long. It's sitting about a mile from my shop right now and she lives in GA. Last time we checked... it was still titled in Em's name and we sold it to her about 3 years ago.
Was it an AWD conversion? I'd might be interested if you guys aren't going to get it back.
Was it an AWD conversion? I'd might be interested if you guys aren't going to get it back.
awd atx tt conversion, paul. on a 92 sl, iirc. harvest wheat.
was originally a salvage title though, so no reason to pay 2 grand for it in its current state with a fubar engine, imho.
Hans@GZP
10-24-2011, 12:05 PM
Was it an AWD conversion? I'd might be interested if you guys aren't going to get it back.
It was the first awd conversion we had done. It's a 91 SL with (I believe) 170k miles on it. We considered buying it from her for under a grand, but I know she won't want to deal with us LOL. I may have a friend make her an offer, but it will definitely be sub $1000.
Emilie@GZP
10-24-2011, 03:11 PM
It had a salvage title due to EXTREMELY minor damage, but a salvage title none the less. No structural damage, just front bumper cover damage, and a cracked headlight plastic-surround. I bought it from Florida, super clean, rust free. It was a super nice car all around, it just has a blown engine now (it was a 10:1 anyway). It had just under 180k.
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