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Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 05:01 PM
After the land above the top ring on piston #5 came off trashing the engine & turbos I started on a rebuild that grew much bigger than I first planned.
Here are a few of the parts involved.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/E10GTORebuild001.jpg
Above left to right:
King Bearings, Uprated springs & titanium retainers, 3SX Ross Forged Pistons (91.5 3.02ltr displacement), 3SX H Beam Forged rods, 3SX Adjustable cam gears, 264/272 race weld cams, Pre-lube for the build, krank Vents, Kevlar Timing Belt & 3rd Generation Lifters.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/E10GTORebuild002.jpg
Nice New 2nd Generation Sump, Oil pick-up & Front Mount Oil Cooler.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/E10GTORebuild005.jpg
3 Guage Pillar Pod, 2Piece Carbon Prop, New Mitsy Forged Crank Shaft & transfer Box Rebuilt by Kormex. I also have a Kormex Rebuilt 5spd Gearbox (could not be bothered to get it out of the garage for photo it is heavy)
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/E10GTORebuild003.jpg
Transfer Case Bracket Cage, Solid Engine Mounts & Adjustable rear Camber Arms
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/E10GTORebuild006.jpg
Mitsy Water Pump, AEM Water Injection, Mitsy Timing belt pulleys, RC1000 Fuel Injectors, Mitsy Timing belt Tensioner & Mitsy Gasket Set
These came from Rob today
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Forgedengine004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Forgedengine003.jpg
BC Inverted coil overs from Evil Empire
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Forgedenginerebuild002.jpg
Mk2 EBC rear disc's & red stuff pads.
(somthing special coming for the front)
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Forgedenginerebuild001.jpg
Mitsy Oil filters for all the oil changes I will be doing during the run in. New Mitsy oil Pump & Filter Housing, and a new mitsy Damper pully. All from His Evilness
To be continued, thats the Max that I can post at once :rolleyes3:
Jeff
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 05:05 PM
Somthing a little diferent that I just received from the US. Solid mechanical cam belt tensioner. $139 posted +£21 import duty (including £8 post office fee)
http://www.streettunedmotorsports.com/parts/ble_timing_belt_tensioner.htm (http://www.streettunedmotorsports.com/parts/ble_timing_belt_tensioner.htm)
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/003-1.jpg
Received My front brakes from Phatboy Brakes today, they are 380mm discs with 8 pot callipers and are enormouse.
here are a couple of picks the second pick is for scale on top of the 380mm disc is a MK2 rear disk (297mm)
Also there is a link for any one interested.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/PhatBoyBrakes001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/PhatBoyBrakes003.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-3000GTO-90-01-8-Pot-Brake-Kit-380-FRONT-/280597526063?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4154ea762f (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-3000GTO-90-01-8-Pot-Brake-Kit-380-FRONT-/280597526063?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4154ea762f)
Eventualy I finaly got round to taking the engine out of the black GTO so I could put the clutch & fly wheel with the rods, pistons and damper pully to send off with the crank to get it balanced.
Unfortunately My Spec 4+ clutch has eaten the Fidanza Fly wheel
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/005-2.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/006.jpg
There is plenty of meat left on the clutch plate and the presure plate isn't too bad.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/008.jpg
This is the state of My rear engine mount
No wonder the rear turbo was hitting the bulkhead
I am going to fit fully solid engine mounts.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/003-2.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/002-2.jpg
I have ordered a new Fidanza plate for the fly wheel along with a Aeromotive 340lph intank fuel pump from 3SX but it will take a couple of weeks to arive.
Still I have loads to be getting on with.
To be continued, thats the Max that I can post at once :rolleyes3:
Jeff
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 05:26 PM
This week end I have fitted the BC Inverted coil overs and the Big front brakes along with the MK2 rear disks & calipers.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Bigbrakes2003.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/BigBrakes002.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/BigBrakes012.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/BigBrakes015.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/BigBrakes014.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/BigBrakes009.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Bigbrakes2011.jpg
The car Before today
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/LensosDareWheels002.jpg
After fitting the suspension & brakes
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Bigbrakes2009.jpg
I will wait until I have the engine & gearbox back in before I set the ride height.
To be continued, thats the Max that I can post at once :rolleyes3:
Jeff
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 05:34 PM
Fitted the front mount oil cooler
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/oilcooler001.jpg
Also fitted the two fans for my Dejon side mount intercoolers
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/oilcooler005.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/oilcooler004.jpg
Also fitted the front and rear solid engine mounts
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/oilcooler003.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/oilcooler002.jpg
As you can see TDO5 Turbo's get quite hot
You can also see the mark on the ac pipe where the external waste gate was hitting it due to shot standard engine mounts
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/oilcooler006.jpg
I fitted some MK 2/3 Side skirts and front wings this week end that I got from GTO Doctor a while ago, I fitted Stainless mesh in the side skirts at the same time
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/001-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Newskirts004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Mesh001.jpg
To be continued, thats the Max that I can post at once :rolleyes3:
Jeff
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 05:40 PM
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Newskirts001.jpg
Here are a few pictures of some things I have done lately.
Firstly I have changed the rear bumper to a MK3 one to go with the side skirts.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rearbumperchange009.jpg
I have also replaced the center guages with AEM ones (what a job) and fitted the "A" piller guage pod.
This takes me up to Eleven guages
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Dash005.jpg
I have also done the AWS delete.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/AWSDelete001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/AWSDelete003.jpg
At the moment I am fitting a water/meth tank that I have had made to fit in the right hand side of the boot, it holds 10ltr.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/004-1.jpg
be continued, thats the Max that I can post at once :rolleyes3:
Jeff
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 05:43 PM
Well, thats the heads finished
Just finished instaling the solid lifters (lash adjusters) along with lapping the valves, fitting the uprated valve springs and retainers, also the 264/272 race cams.
Heads are ready & I should receive all the bits back from getting the crank balanced next week, so I can now see light at the end of the tunnel
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Headwork001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Headwork002.jpg
Here's a few more picks of the re-build
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild003.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild007.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild005.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild008.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild009.jpg
be continued, thats the Max that I can post at once :rolleyes3:
Jeff
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 05:47 PM
And today I fitted the cam belt and went to the trouble of mounting the degree wheel and found the true TDC on piston 1, so I could set up the 264/272 cams correctly only to find that I didn't have the spec sheets for the cams.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Enginebuild002.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Enginebuild004.jpg
This brings the thread up to date
Jeff:rolleyes3:
B-Man
09-18-2011, 05:49 PM
That meth tank is pretty slick! Looks like an awesome build.
B-Man
09-18-2011, 05:51 PM
I didn't see what turbos you're using. Goals?
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 06:03 PM
I didn't see what turbos you're using. Goals?
Sorry to save time I copied and pasted most of this thread from a UK forum.
I was using TDO5 16G's when the original engine let go.
I have upgraded them to 20G's, probably big mistake.
Still if they are too laggy I will get some Billet 16G's off Matt
As long as I get 500 AWHP I will be happy
Jeff:rolleyes3:
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 06:45 PM
Here is the original engine
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/IMG_39522.jpg?t=1316381040
This picture shows the damage to the piston.
My original ERL Aquamist stopped working allthough the dash led said that it was, resulting in knock
Along with the AEM WI for the rebuild I also have the AEM monitor
I also have AEM EMS 1.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/EngineGoneBang004-1.jpg?t=1316381290
The next picture shows what damage one of the nuts breaking on a Fidanza cam gear can do to a Kevlar belt
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/EngineGoneBang017-1.jpg?t=1316381238
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/EngineGoneBang003-1.jpg?t=1316381313
Jeff:rolleyes3:
Tigchamp
09-18-2011, 06:48 PM
A few other bits involved with the rebuild
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/AEMCDI002-1.jpg?t=1316381199
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/AEMCDI001-1.jpg?t=1316381218
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Electrics001.jpg?t=1316381150
Some of the new wiring involved
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Electrics002.jpg?t=1316381130
Just how small the Aeromotive pump is against the standard Mitsy one
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Aeromotive340lph001.jpg?t=1316381174
STM ABS delete kit
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/stm_3000gt_abs_delete_kit.jpg?t=1316380363
Jeff:rolleyes3:
nice. subscribed for updates.
GTO Assassin
09-19-2011, 07:44 AM
Looking good mate.
Scotty
2fnloud
09-19-2011, 08:30 AM
AWESOME build going on. I am curious to know how the "Twin Fire" ignition system works for you. Plan on staying with the "series 1". I bought a 4-channel that I thought was an 8-channel (I misread the info.)
Anyways my point, I posted up questions about the "Twin Fire" ignition system on the AEM forums. Turns out that with the series 2 EMS (that I have), is easier to set up in a wasted spark configuration.
Whether or not the Admin on the AEM forum was full of it or not here is what they posted:
The main advantage to the 8-channel Twin-Fire is you can run up to 8 coils sequentially if you have an ECU that will send 8 individual coil signals.
In addition, the setup pictured on page 15 will supply more ignition energy to each coil than the setup pictured on page 16.
Both setups will drive the coils in wasted spark mode since the 30-1100 EMS pairs the coils up and fires each pair of coils twice per cycle.
The setup on page 15 sends full voltage to each coil, vs the setup on pg 16 essentially splits the supply voltage in half since it is shared between the two coils wired in series. In theory this could make a difference, but in practice it may be fine since the coils were originally working with a supply voltage of about 14V in the original setup and the CDI boosts the supply voltage to either 500V (if using the setup on pg.15) or approximately 250V (if using the setup on pg.16).
The setup on page 15 will not work properly when using a Series 2 30-6100 EMS because it sends 6 sequential coil signals. Unless you change your calibration to fire the coils in wasted spark, the best solution for a CDI with a 30-6100 EMS would be to use the setup on page 16.
Hope that helps,
SB (http://forum.aempower.com/forum/index.php/topic,27917.0.html)
Obviously the pages are referring to the CDI installation manual.
Hope that helps in any way. can not wait to read about how this build per forms.
Tigchamp
09-19-2011, 04:06 PM
AWESOME build going on. I am curious to know how the "Twin Fire" ignition system works for you. Plan on staying with the "series 1". I bought a 4-channel that I thought was an 8-channel (I misread the info.)
Anyways my point, I posted up questions about the "Twin Fire" ignition system on the AEM forums. Turns out that with the series 2 EMS (that I have), is easier to set up in a wasted spark configuration.
Whether or not the Admin on the AEM forum was full of it or not here is what they posted:
Obviously the pages are referring to the CDI installation manual.
Hope that helps in any way. can not wait to read about how this build per forms.
To be honest this is something that I have been putting off.
Initialy I am going to run the engine for the first time using the original coil/ptu setup and the previously installed PTE 680 injectors to negate any problems with mapping or my not wiring something right.
I was hoping to use the setup on page 9 of the cdi instuctions but I cant find the pin numbers to do so.
Is page 15 sugesting that you still use the PTU.
Jeff:coo3l:
2fnloud
09-19-2011, 05:24 PM
Jeff,
Sorry I am collecting stuff for a future build, so I really do not know. I have learned that the HKS is easier to install as well as more reliable.
Tigchamp
09-19-2011, 05:40 PM
Jeff,
Sorry I am collecting stuff for a future build, so I really do not know. I have learned that the HKS is easier to install as well as more reliable.
Thanks for the input anyway:)
I am about to e-mail a contact in AEM so I will post the results (if any) when I get them,
The AEM forum is just useless I posted back in april with close on 400 veiws and no answers.
Jeff:coo3l:
2fnloud
09-19-2011, 05:48 PM
good luck, I hope you get it figured out.
AdamVR4
09-19-2011, 07:22 PM
You undoubtedly realized that the stud/bolt on the cam gear broke due to an initial over-torque plus thermal stress cycling.
Good luck with the solid lifters and solid tensioner. That's not a set up for the average weekend warrior, that's for sure. Over the years, I've heard of so little success with crazy cam/spring/lifter/cam-gear set ups that I've stuck with stock. This is generally the area where people get too complicated for their own good.
Tigchamp
09-20-2011, 04:14 AM
You undoubtedly realized that the stud/bolt on the cam gear broke due to an initial over-torque plus thermal stress cycling.
Good luck with the solid lifters and solid tensioner. That's not a set up for the average weekend warrior, that's for sure. Over the years, I've heard of so little success with crazy cam/spring/lifter/cam-gear set ups that I've stuck with stock. This is generally the area where people get too complicated for their own good.
Yeh, I think I got a bit carried away:lo5l:
Jeff:coo3l:
AudibleSilence
09-20-2011, 05:54 PM
Not digging the mesh in the skirts.. I like the idea of a fan for the SMICs though.
AdamVR4
09-20-2011, 06:12 PM
Oh that reminds me... Stupid question... Those fans are blowing air toward the engine bay, sucking through the intercoolers, right?
Tigchamp
09-20-2011, 06:30 PM
Oh that reminds me... Stupid question... Those fans are blowing air toward the engine bay, sucking through the intercoolers, right?
Yes, or more correctly blowing air towards the front wheels.
Jeff
Tigchamp
09-22-2011, 06:59 PM
I put the engine in today, but dont expect to have it running till early next week as I have a thousand & one jobs still to do.
Here is a couple of pics before I put it in.
Jeff:coo3l:
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild001.jpg?t=1316728188
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild002.jpg?t=1316728134
92RT-TT
09-23-2011, 03:10 PM
Awesome build! It'll be interesting to see how this combo performs! Great looking car btw!
Tigchamp
09-23-2011, 05:41 PM
Awesome build! It'll be interesting to see how this combo performs! Great looking car btw!
Thanks, Which one
Jeff:coo3l:
Tigchamp
10-01-2011, 06:15 PM
Time for an update.
So got the engine fully fitted all oiled and water'd up, sorted out all the electrics.
Found out through AEM that it is prety pointless wireing up the 8 channel CDI & pencil coils with the series 1 EMS so I now have a EMS 2 on order.
As it turns out I could realy do with it now as the engine is so tight the puny little startermotor cant cope but still mamages to take all the power resulting in a weak spark, the cdi will work with only 5V available.
As yet I have not been able to start the engine been close a couple of times but then it's flooded:shake2:
I refuse to remove the plenum to dry out the rear plugs so have left it for a couple of days to dry out in the mean time I sprayed the front & rear scuttle pannels and wiper arms with satin black, bled the brakes etc.
Tomorow I am going to give it another go but using a large van battery & if that does not work it is going to have to be a tow start with a van.
Still here's a few pics including my new clear cam gear covers, yes front & rear;)
Jeff:coo3l:
Here is a link for the Clear Cam Gear Covers: HSXconcept- Home (http://www.hsxconcept.com/)
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild004-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild003-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild002-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Rebuild001-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Clearcamgearcovers001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Clearcamgearcovers003.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/Clearcamgearcovers006.jpg
Tigchamp
10-01-2011, 06:20 PM
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/IntakePipes007.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/IntakePipes003.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/IntakePipes004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/IntakePipes005.jpg
Next update soon
Jeff
Tigchamp
10-02-2011, 05:50 AM
Not to every ones tastes but here are some pics of the interior before I fitted the the a pillar guages.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/LeatherInterior001.jpg?t=1317579173[/URL]
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/LeatherInterior008.jpg?t=1317579129 (http://www.gtooc.org/forum/download/file.php?id=208&mode=view)
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/LeatherInterior005.jpg?t=1317579155[URL="http://www.gtooc.org/forum/download/file.php?id=205&mode=view"]
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/LeatherInterior009.jpg?t=1317579110
GTO Assassin
10-02-2011, 11:30 AM
It's very blue. lol I can't see the interior pics unfortunately. I'm not keen on the filter placement. Looks a little messy.
Scotty
Tigchamp
10-02-2011, 03:23 PM
It's very blue. lol I can't see the interior pics unfortunately. I'm not keen on the filter placement. Looks a little messy.
Scotty
Hi Scotty, I have fixed the pics but You probably wont like them as, they are very blue lol.
Jeff
GTO Assassin
10-02-2011, 10:05 PM
HAHA. Dude - they are that. It's my fave colour, buuuutttt...... :p
Scotty
vroom4
10-03-2011, 03:25 PM
Please paint the concsole and radio surround back to black...pretty please :)
Tigchamp
10-03-2011, 03:32 PM
Please paint the concsole and radio surround back to black...pretty please :)
Sorry Matey,
I quite like it how it is:lo5l:
Jeff:coo3l:
mb7050
11-07-2011, 04:10 PM
At the moment I am fitting a water/meth tank that I have had made to fit in the right hand side of the boot, it holds 10ltr. [/SIZE]
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/004-1.jpg
Jeff [/SIZE]
Nice Build !
I have been looking for something like this. Where did you get it made ?
Tigchamp
11-07-2011, 04:45 PM
Nice Build !
I have been looking for something like this. Where did you get it made ?
Alloy Racing Fabrications in the UK.
I supplied them with a template.
Jeff
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/watermethtank001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/WaterMethtank001-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/002-3.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/WaterMethTank0012.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/WaterMethTank0022.jpg
mb7050
11-07-2011, 04:53 PM
Looks Good !
do you think they could make copy ? I'm going to send them an email now.
Tigchamp
11-07-2011, 05:10 PM
hmm do you think they could make copy ? I'm going to send them an email now.
I did give them permission to keep the template and to supply others if requested.
I will supply You with the part numbers for the fittings if needed.
Jeff
Tigchamp
11-07-2011, 05:31 PM
To update this thread.
Start up never went to plan, according to My EGT guages the engine would only run on the front bank and only at WOT.
Taking the plugs out revealed very sooty fronts and soaked rears, after trying many things including fitting standard TT injectors with the same result.
I came to the conclusion that the AEM series 1 map from before the re-build was not suitable and after looking at the map there were quite a few things that weren't right.
As the series 1 wont run the CDI & COP correctly I decided to buy the series 2.
I hope that when I fit this with the base startup calibration that every thing will be ok.
Then I will fit the RC1000 injectors and the AEM 8 Channel CDI & Cop.
If not it will be back to the drawing board.
Jeff
2fnloud
11-07-2011, 06:15 PM
I hope that the AEM tech that I spoke with on the forum, didn't know what he was talking about, He told me:
The setup on page 15 (8 channel) will not work properly when using a Series 2 30-6100 EMS because it sends 6 sequential coil signals. Unless you change your calibration to fire the coils in wasted spark, the best solution for a CDI with a 30-6100 EMS would be to use the setup on page 16 (4 channel).
I know I shared this with you before, like I said I hope he was wrong. As it stands I think I will ditch the AEM CDI for the HKS CDI.
markoverclock
11-07-2011, 06:44 PM
Nice Build !
I have been looking for something like this. Where did you get it made ?
Meth will eat alumn. You need to use S.S.
Tigchamp
11-08-2011, 06:25 PM
I hope that the AEM tech that I spoke with on the forum, didn't know what he was talking about, He told me:
The setup on page 15 (8 channel) will not work properly when using a Series 2 30-6100 EMS because it sends 6 sequential coil signals. Unless you change your calibration to fire the coils in wasted spark, the best solution for a CDI with a 30-6100 EMS would be to use the setup on page 16 (4 channel).
I know I shared this with you before, like I said I hope he was wrong. As it stands I think I will ditch the AEM CDI for the HKS CDI.
I will be using the instalation on page 9.
Jeff
ruben2566
11-08-2011, 06:46 PM
Very nice build. Keep us updated.:cool:
Tigchamp
12-28-2011, 07:29 AM
A bit worying, I have removed the cam belt covers off of the Red TT and timed up the cam gears to compare the pins to the photo from 3SX for cam alignment after a conversation with Elton (fastbikes 76, from GTOOC) last night casting doubt upon the accuracy of the picture.
The dots on picture show the pin on the front Exhaust at 2 o'clock, it is at 3 o'clock http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
Front Inlet close enough 12 o'clock http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
Rear inlet shows 8 o'clock, it is at 4 o'clock http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gifhttp://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Rear Exhaust shows 11 o'clock, it is at 12 o'clock http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
It has just started peeing it down now so I cant check the positions on the Black TT, but if these pin positions are repeated on the 3SX cam gears it is not suprising that the car wont run on the rear bank.
Has anyone got a photo showing the position of the rear cams when timed up, I dont realy want to take the Red TT apart to compare them.
Jeff http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/cams-lobes-at-zero-time-07-labels-640.jpg?t=1325599038
Tigchamp
12-28-2011, 08:16 AM
Just got out to check the cam timing on the Re-built engine compared to the running Red TT and it is timed the same, this is both good & bad news as I am no further in finding out why it wont fire on the rear bank, Shame about the 3SX picture being so inacurate.
Yesterday I decided to do another compression test to make sure everything was ok and all cylinders are arround 180psi, but when I do the rear bank I get a poping noise through the lower inlet plenum its as if compression is going back through the valves, I dont get this on the front bank.
There has been some talk about after market cams being ground wrong not taking in concideration the fact that they rotate in a diferant direction bank to bank, for those who have not read the thread I have fitted 3SX 264/272 cams, maybe these suffer from the same problem it is as if the valves on the inlet cam are opening at the wrong time or maybe I have over adjusted the solid lash adjusters, time will tell.
Jeff
Tigchamp
12-28-2011, 11:11 AM
Got it sussed, as You can see by the picture, although all the timing marks and locating pins are where they should be, the rear Exhaust cam is in the wrong position, it should be a mirror of the intake cam where ring'd both lobes should face each other.
How can it be so wrong? maybe 3SX suplied me with two front Exhaust cams.
Hopefully I can remove all the bolts in the cam gear and rotate the cam to the right position and refit the bolts if the slots in the adjustable cam gear will allow & hopfully I have not suffered any valve damage. I am not sure if I could make a claim against 3SX if I have, for supplying goods not suitable for the purpose intended.
Jeff:coo3l:
Edit: of coarse they cant be two front Exhaust cams as they are a diferent length.
Just cant explain how it can be so wrong.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/Rear2520cams2520004.jpg?t=1325599039
Mikes2nd
12-28-2011, 11:31 AM
cant see pics... solid lash adjusters... uhg the pain. solid tensioner... solid motor mounts more pain...
3sx pics are wrong on their site or in the instructions? 3sx has always been pretty spot on with instructions from what I have seen.
Tigchamp
12-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Just fixed the pics, Click too enlarge.
The 3SX pic is from their Tech/faq on the regrind cams section on their site.
3SX Performance - 3000GT / Stealth Cam Shaft Identification*-*Mitsubishi 3000GT*/*Dodge Stealth Parts (http://www.3sx.com/faq/cams/index.asp)
Jeff
AdamVR4
12-28-2011, 12:48 PM
Are the front cams reversed? (intake cam where the exhaust cam should be) ... It's an easy mistake to make.
Tigchamp
12-28-2011, 01:03 PM
No Mate,
The problem has always been with the rear bank not the front, as I have fitted 264 inlets & 272 Exhausts the cams are color coded so it is dificult to fit the wrong one in the wrong place on the front and of course the rear inlet cam has the slot to drive the MK1 CAS.
It would appear that the rear Exhaust cam has had the cam gear location dowel drilled in the wrong position.
Jeff
Tigchamp
12-28-2011, 07:17 PM
It has just been pointed out to Me on My usual UK forum, that it appears that 3SX have sent me 2 rear inlet cams one 264 & one 272 instead of a 272 exhaust cam going by the dowel positions.
Looks like I will be on the phone to Daniel at 3SX tomorow afternoon My time to try & get this rectified.
After the thousands of dollars that I have spent there over the last 5 years I hope it is somthing that they can sort quickly.
Apart from all the head scratching and greif this has caused Me I now have to replace a camshaft and re-do the cam belt timing with the engine in situ not a 5 minute job:Tantrum2:
It has taken Me since last september to figure this out
Jeff:coo3l:
Tigchamp
12-30-2011, 07:55 AM
Just sent 3SX an e-mail, will see what their responce is.
Jeff
Tigchamp
01-02-2012, 06:11 PM
While I wait for a reply from 3SX I thought I would get on with fitting the Coil on Plug's.
You will note that they will not go under the front cover, so unfortunately they will be there for all to see http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
It took me most of the day just sorting out which wire goes where and then seperating the four seperate looms and put into three, one to the front bank, one to the rear bank & another to go through the bulkhead to be wired into the EMS, it will be nice to lose all the crap off of the left hand side of the front head http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
Still a way to go yet.
Jeff http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CoilonPlugs002.jpg?t=1325596094
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CoilonPlugs003.jpg?t=1325596126
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CoilonPlugs005.jpg?t=1325596149
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CoilonPlugs007.jpg?t=1325596054
Tigchamp
01-02-2012, 06:13 PM
You will note that there are two wires going to each COP & no HT lead.
I will no longer have a wasted spark ignition each COP will be fired at the correct crank angle all I need to do is asign each one in the AEM EMS via AEM Tuner.
Jeff http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CoilonPlugs006.jpg?t=1325596076
Tigchamp
01-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Just re-sent the e-mail to 3SX just in case it got lost during the holidays.
Jeff
Tigchamp
01-05-2012, 07:06 PM
Good news, just had a reply from 3SX.
I am to send them more pictures of the cam to confirm whether or not there is a mistake with the rear Exhaust cam, If there is they are going to send another cam off to be made and then send it to Me.
This is the reason that I buy most of My bits from 3SX dispite the high shipping cost's to the UK, Good Customer Service.
Jeff
mb3000
01-06-2012, 01:35 AM
3SX has always done me right, glad to see you're getting everything sorted out. Good luck with the rest of the build!
Tigchamp
01-06-2012, 07:44 PM
I have just been going through the build photos to see if I had any pictures of the cams before I fitted them.
The very first picture in this thread clearly shows that the two rear cams are indeed inlet cams http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
As I had sent the old cams off for the core I had nothing to compare them to, & I had previously only rebuilt a few small block Buick V8's before so it was not obvious to me.
If You expand the picture by clicking on it, You will see that the MK1 CAS, Dowel location pins and all the lobes are lined up perfectly on the two rear cams http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Jeff http://www.gtooc.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/E10GTORebuild001.jpg?t=1325893140
Tigchamp
01-08-2012, 12:46 PM
Finished wiring in the Coil on Plugs (engine bay side) & removed the PTU and coil packs from the side of the engine.
Daniel from 3SX has been in touch about the rear Exhaust cam being the wrong one, and has set in motion replacing it with the correct one, Thanks Daniel.
Jeff:coo3l:
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/COP002.jpg?t=1326040664
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/COP003.jpg?t=1326040683
Tigchamp
02-26-2012, 04:48 PM
I received the replacement cam from 3SX on friday, so set about changing the cam and putting the rest back together this weekend
Another advantage of having adjustable cam gears is that You can change the cam without taking half of the car apart.
All I did was set the timing, cable tie the cam belt to the other three cam gears, mark two positions on the cam belt & cam gear for the rear exhaust cam just incase they became seperated.
Then took out all the adjuster bolts, fitted 3 longer ones to keep the cam gears together, removed the cam to cam gear bolt prised the adjustable part of the cam gear off the end of the cam and then removed the cam.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CamChange001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CamChange002.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CamChange003.jpg
Tigchamp
02-26-2012, 05:07 PM
Well it's all back together.
But I wont be firing it up one of my Speed Flow fuel lines is leaking.
I will order the bits tonight.
Still hasn't been a bad weekend, all in all I have replaced the exhaust cam, fitted the RC 1000 injectors, done some tidying up of the FPR, boost solenoid and Map sensors on the bulkhead. Put it all back together, wired in the AEM CDI, Coil on Plugs & the two EGT guages to the EMS. So all the wiring to the EMS is done except the WI monitor (havn't sussed that yet)
Jeff
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/FinalRebuild001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/FinalRebuild002.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/FinalRebuild003.jpg
mb3000
02-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Looking good!
J. Fast
02-26-2012, 10:46 PM
Beautiful!
Tigchamp
05-13-2012, 02:32 PM
Time for an update, so after fitting the replacement exhaust cam from 3SX, I still had a problem. basicaly it would only run on five cylinders and of course it had to be #4 in the rear bank, this turned out to be quite a problem for me to find the fault as by the time I had removed the plenum etc to pull the plugs, the centre #4 plug was just like new and dry.
So I was convinced that it was a injector fault, swaped the rear injectors for the front ones even swaped the rear COP's for the front ones just incase, put it all back together still no #4.
Bought a noid tester for the injectors & low & behold the injectors should all be working.
Whilst I had the plenum off for about the tenth time I decided to see if the lower inlet was getting wet so I turned off all the Cop's & turned the engine over and yes #4 injector is working.
After loads more testing of both the CDI & the COP's I found out that pin #91 of the AEM EMS is not working, pin 91 is the dedicated #4 spark ignitor if your not using wasted spark.
I could totaly rewire the CDI as a 4 channel one but hey! the EMS is new so why should this be happening, I am going to have to make an international call to AEM to find out whether this is a known fault with the S2 or that maybe it needs a firmware upgrade, or is something that cost me £1050 just broken without even getting on the road.
Jeff:coo3l:
TUFFTR
05-14-2012, 05:08 AM
You guy's have gotta get onto the adaptronic super ECU's!
Adaptronic - Energise Your Engine! (http://adaptronic.com.au/)
Have to say, awesome thread to read. So much dedication! Timing belt on/off/on/off, gah, been there done that! I know the pain.
Once she is running through it will be a friggin blast! I hope AEM sort this shit out for you quicksmart.
Tigchamp
05-14-2012, 11:22 AM
You guy's have gotta get onto the adaptronic super ECU's!
Adaptronic - Energise Your Engine! (http://adaptronic.com.au/)
Have to say, awesome thread to read. So much dedication! Timing belt on/off/on/off, gah, been there done that! I know the pain.
Once she is running through it will be a friggin blast! I hope AEM sort this shit out for you quicksmart.
Had a look at Adaptronic, not much use to me in this situation as there is only 4 ignition outputs so I would have to go wasted spark. Of course you can also get a Vipec plug & play ECU for the 3000GT/GTO from that part of the world, excelent EMS but again only 4 coil outputs unless you get the V88 but that would involve a major rewire of everything to the ECU as it is not plug & play but does have enough coil outputs, so I will stick with the AEM.
Jeff
2fnloud
05-14-2012, 01:05 PM
Why is Wasted spark so bad? I mean even the HKS CDI users are wasted spark, so in the end as long at the voltage is at least that of the HKS unit what does it matter?
Tigchamp
05-14-2012, 01:21 PM
Why is Wasted spark so bad? I mean even the HKS CDI users are wasted spark, so in the end as long at the voltage is at least that of the HKS unit what does it matter?
The trouble is that I have already wired everything up for sequential ignition, & the wiring is totaly diferent for wasted spark & all the wiring is buried away all neatly, I havn't got the heart to redo it.
Also dont forget that the only reason I upgraded from the series one was so I did not have to go wasted spark.
I have decided not to send it to AEM as it would be at least a month before I got it back, so I have sent it (today) to a local ECU repairer that I used for my original Mitsy ECU.
If they can sort it out I will probably get it back next week, if they cant then perhaps I will go the wasted spark route.
At least if I do go wasted spark I will have two 4 channel CDI's so a spare one if one breaks LOL, as you only use one side of the 8 Channel CDI.
Jeff
2fnloud
05-14-2012, 02:20 PM
OK I see, I am sitting on a EMS series 2 and a AEM 4 channel CDI (old style), have no intention of going COP and have been debating if I should even use the AEM CDI.
Tigchamp
05-14-2012, 02:28 PM
OK I see, I am sitting on a EMS series 2 and a AEM 4 channel CDI (old style), have no intention of going COP and have been debating if I should even use the AEM CDI.
I just want to get it running, its been a long wait.
Jeff
Tigchamp
08-27-2012, 08:26 AM
I thought it was about time that I updated this thread.
I received the EMS 2 back from the repairer and everything is now hunky dorey
I have put a few hard miles on the engine with Millers 10/40 mineral running in oil and done the first oil change with what I can only describe as a ball of dust/powder on the magnetic sump plug, this is what I would expect and goes to show that the Millers oil is doing its job during the bedding in period.
I dont realy beleive in running in an engine so I basicaly put my foot to the floor at any safe oppertunity
I dont think that I have to worry about knock as my TD05 20G's are only boosting to 12psi & full throttle results in thick black clouds coming out of the exhaust followed by 6 ft flames on gear changes:lo5l:
I have had to replace the Bosch 044 inline pump as it started to play up, I hope it is not because the Aeromotive 340 lph intank pump is overwhelming it.
I have also replaced the rear turbo IC pipes with some bright polished stainless 2" pipe that I have made up, also I have moved the one that normally sits above the hot front manifold to inside the front Aero.
Due to the size of my Dejon side mounts my front Aero is in the down position all the time and the IC pipe now resides where all the front Aero stuff was.
I also polished up the stainless intake pipes that I made.
Should be going in for mapping soon:)
Jeff:coo3l:
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/IntakePipes004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/ICPipesWelded003.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/ICPIPES002-2.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/ICPIPES004-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/ICPIPES007.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/ICPIPES008.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/ICPIPES010-1.jpg
Tigchamp
08-27-2012, 09:46 AM
A few arty photos of how it looks now it is on the road:)
Perhaps I ought to enter it in COTM:eh:
Jeff:coo3l:
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/COTM013.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/COTM004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/COTM001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/COTM008.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/COTM009.jpg
J. Fast
08-27-2012, 11:33 AM
Nice job on the intakes. Love the clear timing covers also. She's looking great, Jeff! Snap a pic of the front with the active aero down and the rear wing up for me.
Cheers! :beer2:
Tigchamp
08-27-2012, 11:58 AM
Nice job on the intakes. Love the clear timing covers also. She's looking great, Jeff! Snap a pic of the front with the active aero down and the rear wing up for me.
Cheers! :beer2:
I have one of those Aero cheat thingy's 3SX used to sell them, that goes in place of the front motor so the rear Aero does work, the Aero switch is buried inside the centre consol as I have a Knocklink inplace of the switch.
The weather today in the UK is prety crap (rain) so I wont get round to doing the pic until the week end.
What do you want the pic for?
I think the front Aero looks best down all the time, with the PRM hood the front looks quite aggresive.
Jeff
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/003-2.jpg
J. Fast
08-27-2012, 12:25 PM
No one's ever snapped a face forwrd pic with Pit Road M hood and Active Aero.
On a different note, I wanna see and hear more about your spare tire converted meth tank.
Tigchamp
08-27-2012, 01:27 PM
No one's ever snapped a face forwrd pic with Pit Road M hood and Active Aero.
On a different note, I wanna see and hear more about your spare tire converted meth tank.
The W/I tank next to the spare I had made for me, I just made a template and sent it to a tank fabricator, it holds arround 10 litres.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/WaterMethtank001-1.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/002-3.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/WaterMethTank0022.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/GTO%20UK/WaterMethTank0012.jpg
A bit wet but maybe these will be ok till the week end.
Jeff:coo3l:
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/Frontend001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/Frontend002.jpg
J_Parker
08-27-2012, 02:06 PM
Awesome build man! Great work, I hope to see more soon.
Tigchamp
08-27-2012, 02:23 PM
Awesome build man! Great work, I hope to see more soon.
Thanks Matey,
Is your signature pic all chrome or Mirror finish polished?
Very bright lol
Jeff
Primus101
08-27-2012, 06:15 PM
Hey Jeff,
Great work-
did you purge those pipes for welding?
I never run my tungsten out quite that far as at that point the gas shield suffers.
Tigchamp
08-27-2012, 06:20 PM
Hey Jeff,
Great work-
did you purge those pipes for welding?
I never run my tungsten out quite that far as at that point the gas shield suffers.
Yes I did purge the pipes, I gues that we all have our TIG set up in diferent ways, I work on major constuction sites in the UK where I tig Stainless inside & outside, it seems to work for me.
Jeff
Tigchamp
11-25-2012, 05:54 AM
Well took the car to the Dyno to get it mapped but things didn't exactly go to plan:(
At one point the engine spat out arround 2 Litres of coolant giving fears of headlift but as we replaced 5 litres of water and the fact that it did not happen again it looks like I had an air lock in the system, quite rightly the mapper had his head burried in the laptop relying on the information that AEM tuner was giving him it would appear that the Mitsy water temp sensor is faulty as it was only when he happened to glance at my AEM water temp guage which has its own sensor that is not connected to the EMS that he saw it was reading 300F and shut down the run. Lucky escape there.
All day he was having dificulty getting a decent map which in the end was diagnosed as a faulty MAP sensor after some trickery was able to get a stable map but only at 0.8bar then called it a day till I fit a new MAP sensor and then try again, I also have to take off the manifold and reweld it as it has cracked yet again.
Having to do allsorts of things to get round the faulty Map sensor means that when I put the new Map sensor in the car wont run properly but the trouble is the the faulty sensor is getting worse giving running issues but I wont be able to get the car back on the Dyno untill the new year as I wont have time to repair the rear manifold until the christmas break.
The first Dyno graph is how it was running straight out of the box with the base map you will note how it takes a nose dive at 6000, this is due to the faulty MAP sensor, the second Dyno is at 0.8 bar
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/Outofthebox.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/4374HP.jpg
Tigchamp
11-25-2012, 06:20 AM
I recently assembled and fitted Quad Hella projector headlights that I got of of Kurt @ Latitude 42 Motor Sports. http://www.3sgto.org/f54/1g-pop-up-hids-limited-edition-headlights-lat-42-a-6575.html
These he supplied me in kit form of the brackets and shrouds as he only does them in LHD form, these lights have to be the best upgrade for the Gen 1 GTO/3000GT it sure is good to actualy see where I am going at night.
I have used 55W fast start HID's and also fitted Hallo's that iluminate when on low beam.
The last pic is at low beam
Jeff:coo3l:
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/QuadProjectors001.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/QuadProjectors002.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/QuadProjectors004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/QuadProjectors003.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/QuadProjectors005.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/QuadPOPUPS004.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/QuadPOPUPS002.jpg
Vantage
11-25-2012, 12:39 PM
Very cool man. Keep it up, the car looks amazing!
Tigchamp
11-25-2012, 01:34 PM
Very cool man. Keep it up, the car looks amazing!
Sadly these cars are worth next to nothing in the UK at the moment, so this car may well be broken up next year to try & recoupe some of the money that I have spent on it.
Jeff
Tigchamp
05-26-2013, 03:00 PM
I think it is about time I brought this thread up to date.
The good thing about having a blue Kevlar belt & clear cam belt covers is that I got to see this.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/WingChange010_zps3916c1f2.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/WingChange009_zps81fed5a5.jpg
You will notice that there is a blue smear on the clear cam belt cover, something has got between the cam belt and the pulleys taking a chunk out of the belt.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CamBelt002_zps5a065e3b.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/Tigchamp/CamBelt001_zps1eef3a06.jpg
If I had standard cover's I would not have known this had happened.
As I have to re-weld the rear stainless manifold yet again and find a small gearbox/transfer box leak I will be taking the engine out again to do everything at the same time.
Jeff:coo3l:
Unlogic
05-26-2013, 05:59 PM
That damage on the timing belt looks really nasty! You were lucky to catch it in time
wingnut
05-26-2013, 08:27 PM
Sadly these cars are worth next to nothing in the UK at the moment, so this car may well be broken up next year to try & recoupe some of the money that I have spent on it.
Jeff
Ack...dont feel bad, they arent worth much more over here!
GTOJOE
05-26-2013, 09:43 PM
Time to start looking for loose bolts. Australia seems to be the only place they still have some value. That being said a few years ago you couldn't buy a TT for less than $15k. I paid $20k for mine 7 years ago. Now I have seen them for as low as $8k. I find with these cars don't ever expect to get any money back. I just treat it like an expensive hobby. I know if I ever sell it I will lose lots so I plan on never selling it :lol:
Tigchamp
05-27-2013, 06:49 AM
As I now have another DD, the urgency to sort this is not there.
Jeff:coo3l:
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brian999
01-04-2014, 03:46 PM
I would be very great full if someone could
Help me out.
I've a small hole in my oil sump ( oil pan if u are
From USA)
1994 GTO TT
I've googled and searched forums to
See a diagram of how to remove it but can
Only find this thread.
YouTube videos of a liquid metal repair seem to be
Easy to do ? Does it last ..
How easy is it for a DIY home mechanic to replace
The sump
Should I get it welded ? If I manage to remove it
Please anyone help me out
Thanks
Brian
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