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UnhealthyHoarder
08-16-2011, 08:26 PM
I pulled the engine out of a 95 3000gt today at pull a part. While Pulling it I saw on the block that it was stamped 6g74. http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i20/delerius1/IMG_20110816_160315.jpg
Now I noticed some other differences Like the oil pan http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i20/delerius1/IMG_20110816_160332.jpg
and the engine mounts. (plus i did not recognize the 5 speed it was attached to) anyway on top it has a 3000gt N/a intake and valve covers ( I think) anyway I took some pictures of common differences than 72 engine and was wondering if I ended up with a debonair engine or a montero SR engine or what this engine came from? the mounts were in stock location but the rear mount was damaged. Any ideas ?
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i20/delerius1/IMG_20110816_160302.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i20/delerius1/IMG_20110816_160357.jpghttp://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i20/delerius1/IMG_20110816_170011.jpg
GTOJOE
08-16-2011, 09:35 PM
Take the engine number to a dealer and they can tell you where it came from. Well should be able to.
green-lantern
08-16-2011, 09:47 PM
Definitely isn't stock lol

So you didn't know this was a 3.5 before you pulled it?
UnhealthyHoarder
08-16-2011, 09:57 PM
I have a tendency to grab long blocks from the yards because id rather save it than see it crushed. Plus crank is worth the 160 for longblock.
green-lantern
08-16-2011, 10:06 PM
So that's a no?

I guess I'd be happy with what you got. Do you know if it runs?
green-lantern
08-16-2011, 10:12 PM
Looking at that oil pan I'd say spun bearing.
UnhealthyHoarder
08-16-2011, 10:12 PM
Not yet. Crank turns freely timing wasnt jumped. Ill investigate more tommarow. No i disnt. I went there that day to pull a 6g72 the 74 was a bonus. Chasis looked like it was rolled. All glass broken roof crushed in
green-lantern
08-16-2011, 10:23 PM
Not yet. Crank turns freely timing wasnt jumped. Ill investigate more tommarow. No i disnt. I went there that day to pull a 6g72 the 74 was a bonus. Chasis looked like it was rolled. All glass broken roof crushed in

Well the pan must of been crushed in during the wreck. You probably did good with this pull.
BigTyla
08-17-2011, 12:07 PM
I have a tendency to grab long blocks from the yards because id rather save it than see it crushed. Plus crank is worth the 160 for longblock.

I guess that explains your name!

I'd say you made a pretty good pull.
UTRacerX9
08-17-2011, 02:18 PM
I'd review the other parts that are necessary to swap a 3.5L engine in, and go back and pick them up if you did not do so already. There's a couple pieces here and there that are needed from what I remember. I'd say you got pretty lucky.
UnhealthyHoarder
08-17-2011, 03:25 PM
The engine bay is clear. I took everything that wasn't scrap or part of chassis.
UnhealthyHoarder
08-17-2011, 05:52 PM
I guess the next question is what to do with it. Do I go for a 3.8 stroker with 6g75 crank? Perhaps a 3.8 with 8.5:1 pistons and 16t turbos or I donno? Perhaps save it for a rainy day
DuTTch
08-17-2011, 06:20 PM
hoarders dont use stuff so just put it away in your bedroom
green-lantern
08-17-2011, 06:23 PM
1. Check bearings and all that good stuff and if it checks out good drop it in a SL and drive.
2. Rebuild/Low compression pistons, big turbos
3. Stroker
4. Sell it
5. Rainy day
UnhealthyHoarder
08-17-2011, 09:23 PM
1. Check bearings and all that good stuff and if it checks out good drop it in a SL and drive. Maybe
2. Rebuild/Low compression pistons, big turbos if i do goes to back of queue
3. Stroker same as above
4. Sell it blasphomy!!!
5. Rainy day most likely.
UnhealthyHoarder
08-17-2011, 09:25 PM
You sir correct i expect it to go on shelf next to the ford 200 engine
MR2
08-17-2011, 11:34 PM
what car do you have? if it's a SL then just change bearings+give it a clean over throw it in and be done...if a VR4....depends on budget and what you want to achieve.
TUFFTR
08-18-2011, 05:32 AM
Debonair engine. Freeken SWEET find!
MR2
08-18-2011, 05:41 AM
don't know about that...that sump is identical to the Montero sump...aka no cut out for the transfercase?
UnhealthyHoarder
08-18-2011, 06:41 AM
I have a 91 SL , 96 Base partly modified by last owner to be fwdtt and a 91 vr4. all 3 currently in rolling chassis condition.

(I tend to collect those as well)
MR2
08-18-2011, 07:32 AM
Hmmm ok.

replace the bearings, check the engine, then throw it in the SL or Base (whatever that is in your country) :p
green-lantern
08-18-2011, 08:55 AM
I’d just drop it in one of those rolling chassis then. 3.5 can be pretty fun in a FWD.
TUFFTR
08-18-2011, 09:52 AM
don't know about that...that sump is identical to the Montero sump...aka no cut out for the transfercase?

Same as a Debonair sump mate. They only came in FWD.
TUFFTR
08-18-2011, 09:54 AM
I’d just drop it in one of those rolling chassis then. 3.5 can be pretty fun in a FWD.

Is* pretty fun ;)
MR2
08-18-2011, 09:59 AM
I was under the impression the debonair came with the cut for the transfercase or something?
TUFFTR
08-18-2011, 09:45 PM
I was under the impression the debonair came with the cut for the transfercase or something?

Incorrect good sir. They were a FWD only model, thus, no transfercase. You will find this is the case anywhere. Even on john monnins website. Even with a debonair sump it needs to be modified to clear the transfercase

Just realized I used the words "Even" and "Case" way too much in this post.
green-lantern
08-18-2011, 09:53 PM
Now fwd TT = very fun ;)

truth
Blackmount
08-18-2011, 10:19 PM
I hate you. I would love to go pu
MR2
08-19-2011, 05:45 AM
Sooooo, whats the point of going a debonair engine over a montero then....
TUFFTR
08-19-2011, 06:03 AM
Sooooo, whats the point of going a debonair engine over a montero then....

It's a direct drop in...(as discussed in many other threads) i.e. it's in FWD layout. Basically EXACTLY the same as a 3000GT engine. The montero one will need the 3000GT heads and god knows what else to work. The debonair one just goes *plop* straight into a 3/S/Magna :P
MR2
08-19-2011, 06:28 AM
the references that I've seen the Debonaire engine being better than the montero don't talk about differences in the heads, and they are refering to use in AWD vehicles..
TUFFTR
08-19-2011, 10:21 AM
the references that I've seen the Debonaire engine being better than the montero don't talk about differences in the heads, and they are refering to use in AWD vehicles..

Not too sure what they mean...
The debonair engine uses 3000GT heads and cams of the 2nd generation kind.
The montero's heads and cam's are different, to suit the 4WD off-road low torque nature of the car. I have verified this in ASA with non-matching part numbers for montero heads and matching part numbers for Debonair/3000GT heads and cams.

Not sure what the montero sump looks like although I don't see why it'd be different to the debonair one...
But yes..
UnhealthyHoarder
08-19-2011, 11:28 AM
So Maybe I should check the cams ? the upper intake and tb is deff from 3000gt.
Granny
08-19-2011, 02:17 PM
Man...if that is what it is that is one hell of a find.
I think I might be just a tad jealous. :leghump:
UnhealthyHoarder
08-19-2011, 03:46 PM
Man...if that is what it is that is one hell of a find.
I think I might be just a tad jealous. :leghump:
I have strong urge to wash my feet now.
UnhealthyHoarder
08-20-2011, 06:46 PM
I think the Key to identify the motor I got is the fact that the Oil dipstick is in front of engine where its in back on Montero and Diamante.
TUFFTR
08-21-2011, 06:04 AM
I think the Key to identify the motor I got is the fact that the Oil dipstick is in front of engine where its in back on Montero and Diamante.

True but a Diamante engine wouldnt work. non-crossover block. Still a 6g74 yes but it wont actually fit in....