Armory Thread

[onebadmollafolla]

Somebody should build a plane around that thing. :suspect: lol

The good old A-10 Warthog....when you absolutely positively have to kill everything in sight.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

How a Kalashnikov does work.

http://i.imgur.com/weeUf.gif

[onebadmollafolla]

How a Kalashnikov does work.

http://i.imgur.com/weeUf.gif

Yep, it's a gas recoil gun. :p

[IPD]

The good old A-10 Warthog....when you absolutely positively have to kill everything in sight.

yep. :)

[nodoze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaZ5stbVAlk&feature=related

[stealthee]

I love that sound.

[masterjr33]

Anyone have any experience with DRT Ammo.

Just picked up some 200gr 45acp +p speer gold dot. seems to be the best JHP out if you cant find ranger T series +p.
But looking at the damage of the DRT. and imediate enegry dispersion.. along with the fact that a doctor will never get powered metal dust out of your system. it seems DRT will garuntee they are DRT.
I dont see how that bullet COM would be survivable.

so .. personal DRT experience. and what do you think of 200Gr speer gold dot .45acp +p

[Boomer3000]

Bought my first one today. Plan on going to get my CCW in the next couple weeks.

Mynewgun.jpg photo by Boomerstl3000 | Photobucket (http://s1114.beta.photobucket.com/user/Boomerstl3000/media/Mynewgun.jpg.html?#/user/Boomerstl3000/media/Mynewgun.jpg.html?&_suid=1352679872675007633521115307479)

[wingnut]

Bought my first one today. Plan on going to get my CCW in the next couple weeks.

Nice job sir, but i have no idea what model that is...

Cant tell if it has a rail, looks hi cap, and yours has more slide serations than the new SDVE's http://www.palyne.com/talk/Smileys/palyne/scratchhead.gif

...im guessing sigma?!?

[Boomer3000]

Smith and wesson 9mm. Yep Sigma series, only a 9mm but for my first one not bad. Offical model number is SW9VE. Thanks I was just looking today, didn't have any intentions of buying then I saw this one and had fired one like it before. So finally just decided why not..

[wingnut]

nothing wrong with 9mm! caliber is not nearly as important as your ability to get rounds downrange accurately. Go to the range and sign up for a defense course! simply dumping 200 rounds into a plywood circle does about as much for familiarity, as passing your driving test at 16 does for good defensive driving http://www5.shoutmix.com/smileys/suspicious.gif

[Boomer3000]

Yess, deff going to take some classes. Actually one of the main reasons for doing the CCW class is to learn more about it and the laws that protain to guns and such.

[IPD]

I love that sound.

it may sound like a giant fart, but who cares? guys were dead before they ever heard it.

[masterjr33]

my father had a sigma 40. hag quite a few stove pipes in the first 200 rounds through it of winchester white box. get some rounds and put 200 through it.. make sure the gun likes them. seeing 3-4 stove pipes in 200rounds did not make me trust me life with the weapon. another reason im sticking with a 1911 and some fat +p ball. feeds all day. no issues.. maybee he just got a bad one. or bad ammo.

[434josh]

My little group.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a267/434josh/20120513_135257.jpg

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[wingnut]

mmmmmm ^^^ that reminds me, Colt is selling M4s (again?)...

Colt AR-15 M4 Patrol Rifles – New Gun Review (http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/colt-ar-15-m4-patrol-rifles-new-gun-review/)

...and one of them is officially on my Christmas list :D

[434josh]

mmmmmm ^^^ that reminds me, Colt is selling M4s (again?)...

Colt AR-15 M4 Patrol Rifles – New Gun Review (http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/colt-ar-15-m4-patrol-rifles-new-gun-review/)

...and one of them is officially on my Christmas list :D

Never been a huge fan of colt because of their price. My dad has a colt heavy barrel target that came with nothing. My Dpms is a stainless heavy barrel, 4 rail hand guard, magpul back up sights, magpul stock and magpul dropped trigger guard. All for less than half he paid for the colt. Plus the colt doesn't shoot any better... same goes for my Springfield 1911. Much cheaper than the colt.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Just picked up a PSA Midlength Lighter Profile Premium upper, STR lower parts kit and their charging handle. Now I need a BCG and Ill build it.

[nodoze]

gun shop in desmoines had dpms ar-15's for 699 this morning but the line last night was 2 blocks long ...... so i didnt even bother

[turbo_awd]

That DPMS is a good range gun but the Colt is a bet your life on it serious SHTF gun. It cost more $ to do individual MPI and HPT on the bolt, use higher quality barrel steel, higher quality fire control group pins, stake gas keys etc... correctly.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G using Tapatalk.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

The main difference in AR's are the barrel and BCG. The quality steel, chrome lining, ect. I went with PSA because FN makes their barrels and they are chrome lined double the thickness of most manufacturers.

[wingnut]

Does anyone big game hunt, and whatdya use?!?

specifically, north america...none of that "zebras in zimbabwae" stuff :p

I have some 30-30 rifles, but looking for something a bit better to reach out and grab some elk :D

[masterjr33]

I use 150Gr 30-30 to drop our pathetic dear here in florida.
and a .308 to do the same work when i go up north to my family in penn and ohio to drop the actual size dear.

if you need elk. .300WSM or 7mm would be my off the shelf choice. if not a 12Ga sabot slug.

If you werent over say 150 yards. and didnt need the gun for anything but an elk hunt i wouldnt walk much past a nice .50 cal muzzle loader.

[nodoze]

their was talk of me and onebadmolla going cougar hunting of both varietyds in colorado at sme point, and i have family with land in the north middle of southdakota im welcme to elk /bison hunt on

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

I just bought one and figured I would pass off this killer deal to you guys.
Sigarms 220 Carry SAS Gen 2 45ACP NS SAO $619.00 SHIPS FREE (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411552889)

[stealthee]

I figure this is appropriate for this thread,

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556295_477777028955041_1678446585_n.jpg

[Beef6]

Newest addition, sorry for the horrible picture.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/beef66/null-2.jpg

[wingnut]

^^^nice job, i considered the XdM breifly before grabbing the M&P shield.

Now may i suggest a GREAT gun course?

Firearm Training Courses - Handgun ( Glock, etc.), Shotgun, Rifle, (Sub) Machine Gun - from FrontSight.com (http://www.frontsight.com/)

[wingnut]

Double post, good place for gratuitous placement of worlds smallest .45...

http://cdn.uberreview.com/wp-content/uploads/worlds-smallest-gun-2.jpg

http://www.uberreview.com/2012/04/worlds-tiniest-45-is-a-badass-little-gun.htm

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

The start of my AR build.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Arschloch/PC290119.jpg

[onebadmollafolla]

The start of my AR build.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Arschloch/PC290119.jpg

What lower are you using?

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

I went with Aero Precision.

[wingnut]

AR prices are gettin stoopid right now...

[nodoze]

same lower i have , cant find any parts to buy atm though

[onebadmollafolla]

same lower i have , cant find any parts to buy atm though

Is your lower polymer or milled?

[IPD]

AR prices are gettin stoopid right now...

yep. probably because people think they're going to be impossible to get.

[onebadmollafolla]

yep. probably because people think they're going to be impossible to get.

Same with the 30 round AR/M4 mags. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the high cap mags get banned. 10 Pmags are going for ~$500!

[nodoze]

wow , mines milled

[onebadmollafolla]

wow , mines milled

Nice! Let me know if you want to sell it. And yeah, mags are sold out EVERYWHERE. If you want to buy the 30 rounders, you gotta pay serious money.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

People are retarded. I have 20 pmags on backorder, even though I ordered them when they were "in stock". I think Im going to sell 4 of my gen 3 pmags for a retarded price so I can buy more later on.

[wingnut]

Same with the 30 round AR/M4 mags. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the high cap mags get banned. 10 Pmags are going for ~$500!

I know right, i tried to grab a couple more colt steel 30rd mags, and some of the douches are selling for a C note EACH :eek:

[IPD]

and still they think it will make a difference by reducing capacity. nothing some electrical tape an maybe a spacer or two can't fix. oppa jungle style!

[onebadmollafolla]

I know right, i tried to grab a couple more colt steel 30rd mags, and some of the douches are selling for a C note EACH :eek:

I have been seeing Pmags go for as much as $85/mag. AR-15 mags are going for an insane premium as long as they are 20+ cap.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Heres my baby finished minus the trigger guard. No small allen wrench.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Arschloch/PC300138.jpg

[nodoze]

Nice! Let me know if you want to sell it. And yeah, mags are sold out EVERYWHERE. If you want to buy the 30 rounders, you gotta pay serious money.
i dont know that i would want to sell it but since theirs such a huge backorder and price jump i would be willing to trade it for a mossberg 500 , i have some metall military 20 round mags if it comes down to it having crappier military issue ones are better than not

[onebadmollafolla]

Love the ending. Owned.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETF6XFiQe7I

[onebadmollafolla]

I'll just leave this here.

Ben Swann REALITY CHECK for Piers Morgan Gun Stats - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9efqhGBHZI&feature=youtu.be)

[jbuhrman]

Made my payment for one of these today
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/issc_mk22dt_b1.jpg

ISSC-Austria Desert Tan ISSC MSR MK22 Now Shipping | GunPundit (http://www.gunpundit.com/5785.php)

Best I could really do in CA

[onebadmollafolla]

Made my payment for one of these today
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/issc_mk22dt_b1.jpg

ISSC-Austria Desert Tan ISSC MSR MK22 Now Shipping | GunPundit (http://www.gunpundit.com/5785.php)

Best I could really do in CA

Firstly, I am surprised you were able to order one of these in stock...genuinely floored. Secondly, is it a SCAR knock off? Does it take the AR/M4 mag or does it require the FN mag? I know you can convert FN FAL (though scarce as diamonds) to fit SCAR-L fitments.

EDIT: Also, congrats!

[IPD]

I'll just leave this here.

Ben Swann REALITY CHECK for Piers Morgan Gun Stats - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9efqhGBHZI&feature=youtu.be)

been preaching that for a while now. the logic of gun-haters is mind-numbing.

[wingnut]

200 dollar tax coming on your AR15?

We Stand As One! Contact Congress on Guns – Email Your Contacts! (http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/we-stand-as-one-contact-congress-on-guns-email-your-contacts/)

There is an old adage, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” This week the media is trying to convince us that support for Senator Feinstein’s anti-gun legislation is weak, but if we are not PRO-ACTIVE, the legislation will pass as written. You will wake up just in time for SHOT Show with new laws that make your AR-15 a Class 3 weapon. This means that if you want to keep your tactical rifles, you will have to register them, pay a $5-$200 tax, and notify the government if you intend to take them out of state. You will also completely waive your 4th Amendment rights to reasonable search and seizure. ATF will have the right to knock on your door and inspect the weapons anytime they want. You will also see an end to standard capacity magazines. This isn’t a threat. It isn’t political posturing. Diane Feinstein and the anti-gun machine have already introduced the legislation, and it will be rammed through Congress and signed by the President if we do not Stand As One and act today.

[Vantage]

You will also completely waive your 4th Amendment rights to reasonable search and seizure.

Not that it hasn't been pretty much already stripped away, but YGTBFSM.

[Vantage]

Kroeker said his bill, which would hit federal agents with up to five years in prison and a $50,000 fine for attempting to enforce such bans in Wyoming, is designed to be proactive in preserving gun rights.

Wyoming Ban On Federal Gun Bans Proposed By State Lawmaker (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/wyoming-gun-control_n_2451438.html)

Even with the supremacy clause, it'll be interesting to see how this progresses.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Wyoming Ban On Federal Gun Bans Proposed By State Lawmaker (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/wyoming-gun-control_n_2451438.html)

Even with the supremacy clause, it'll be interesting to see how this progresses.

Read that this morning. Definitely interesting.

Jeremy

[jbuhrman]

Firstly, I am surprised you were able to order one of these in stock...genuinely floored. Secondly, is it a SCAR knock off? Does it take the AR/M4 mag or does it require the FN mag? I know you can convert FN FAL (though scarce as diamonds) to fit SCAR-L fitments.

EDIT: Also, congrats!


It seems to model a SCAR, i know I have seen modified ones with front grips, scopes and such. It has what looks like an FN mag(also holds around 20 rounds so the mag said)

[green-lantern]

200 dollar tax coming on your AR15?

We Stand As One! Contact Congress on Guns – Email Your Contacts! (http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/we-stand-as-one-contact-congress-on-guns-email-your-contacts/)

There is an old adage, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” This week the media is trying to convince us that support for Senator Feinstein’s anti-gun legislation is weak, but if we are not PRO-ACTIVE, the legislation will pass as written. You will wake up just in time for SHOT Show with new laws that make your AR-15 a Class 3 weapon. This means that if you want to keep your tactical rifles, you will have to register them, pay a $5-$200 tax, and notify the government if you intend to take them out of state. You will also completely waive your 4th Amendment rights to reasonable search and seizure. ATF will have the right to knock on your door and inspect the weapons anytime they want. You will also see an end to standard capacity magazines. This isn’t a threat. It isn’t political posturing. Diane Feinstein and the anti-gun machine have already introduced the legislation, and it will be rammed through Congress and signed by the President if we do not Stand As One and act today.



Scary shit, then after some other nut job shoots up a place they can just come and pick them up from your house.

[IPD]

Not that it hasn't been pretty much already stripped away, but YGTBFSM.

agreed. according to the government, the 4th amendment died with the advent of the digital age.

[onebadmollafolla]

It seems to model a SCAR, i know I have seen modified ones with front grips, scopes and such. It has what looks like an FN mag(also holds around 20 rounds so the mag said)

20 round mag in Cali is illegal. I'm not calling you out on it, in fact I applaud you. I only wish it were a 100 round beta mag. :D

[J. Fast]

Does anyone big game hunt, and whatdya use?!?

specifically, north america...none of that "zebras in zimbabwae" stuff :p

I have some 30-30 rifles, but looking for something a bit better to reach out and grab some elk :D

270 for speed goats and deer. 30-06 or 300 for elk. Heavy grain round for elk. Light grain round for deer and goats. You typically cant stalk as close and take far off sho with goats. The lighter round with more powder gives a flatter trajectory and makes for a smaller margin of error in the sight adjustment. The flatter and faster the bullet travels the less it drops inside of 400yards. You just have to make sure you drop it. It sucks when you hit em and they run, and you lose them. I've seen that happen a few times on hunts I've gone on where I spotted, it sucks!

[J. Fast]

Anyone got any leads on a fingerprint recognition safe? Something I can put in my bedroom for quick access and not have to worry about reinforcing the floor?

I think it's time I ditched the key and knob setup... Takes to long to get into.

[j2k4]

Anyone got any leads on a fingerprint recognition safe? Something I can put in my bedroom for quick access and not have to worry about reinforcing the floor?

I think it's time I ditched the key and knob setup... Takes to long to get into.

Think Bruce Wayne has one. :wink:

[wingnut]

Anyone got any leads on a fingerprint recognition safe? Something I can put in my bedroom for quick access and not have to worry about reinforcing the floor?

I think it's time I ditched the key and knob setup... Takes to long to get into.

We dont need no silly bruce wayne...

Biometric Gun Safes - Fingerprint Gun Safes | GunVault (http://www.gunvault.com/gun-safes/biometric-gun-safes.html)

...you can store your entire families fingerprints :D

[nodoze]

i picked up a nice mossberg 500a 12g with pistol grip and folding stock

[onebadmollafolla]

As cheesy as it is, it well illustrates just how silly the idea of a "gun free zone" is in the United States.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dg_AcBeHgo

[J. Fast]

We dont need no silly bruce wayne...

Biometric Gun Safes - Fingerprint Gun Safes | GunVault (http://www.gunvault.com/gun-safes/biometric-gun-safes.html)

...you can store your entire families fingerprints :D

Thanks for the link... some fast developing news on this. I dropped by Home Depot yesterday to pick up a few things and discovered they started stocking Biometric Safes. I was really surprised to see that!

They have four models on the sales floor at my local store. According to the Store Manager they have more available online.

They have several different models. The four major styles are a corner closet biometric, a bookshelf GunVault, and under the bed drop door GunVault, and a Nightstand/ Bed Drawer Gun Vault.

First One is a Sentry Biometric with 1.2 CF. It's key, code, and fingerprint.
1.2 cu. Fire-Safe ft. Water Resistant Biometric Lock Safe-DSW3950 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=203526332&R=203526332)

Second is a GunVault Biometric Gun Safe with .65 CF. IT's key, and fingerprint.
MultiVault 7.9 in. H x 14 in. D x 10.1 in. W Biometric Personal Safe-GVB2000 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Safety-Security-Safes/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc2b1Z1z0yk5hZ1z0yk5h/R-203209159/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051)

Third choice is this under the bed styled one:
MiniVault 9.4 in. H x 12 in. D x 8.1 in. W Biometric Personal Safe-GVB1000 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Safety-Security-Safes/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc2b1Z1z0yk5hZ1z0yk5h/R-203209155/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051)

Last one is the Nightstand/Bed Drawer style:
DrawerVault 4.25 in. H x 12 in. D x 10 in. W Biometric Personal Safe-GVB3000 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Safety-Security-Safes/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc2b1Z1z0yk5hZ1z0yk5h/R-203209157/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051)

They're all on sale right now for 20% off and we can use our Veterans or Active Duty Military discounts for an additional 10% off.

All but the Sentry are under $200 with the current discounts. Home Depot appears to be the least expensive place to get them at the moment, also. Which one of these four would you guys recommend for a defense safe? BTW, I checked them out and found them all to be quiet safes . Just an LED indicator for lock and unlock. You can hear a mouse walk when you open the GunVaults.

[wingnut]

Which one of these four would you guys recommend for a defense safe? BTW, I checked them out and found them all to be quiet safes . Just an LED indicator for lock and unlock. You can hear a mouse walk when you open the GunVaults.

Honestly...depends on what you are putting in there, and where you can bolt it down!

But good find on the home depot angle :D

[green-lantern]

As cheesy as it is, it well illustrates just how silly the idea of a "gun free zone" is in the United States.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dg_AcBeHgo

:lo5l: I got a good laugh

[J. Fast]

Honestly...depends on what you are putting in there, and where you can bolt it down!

Dont really mind about the bolt down feature. Safe could get stolen and it wouldn't bother me the least bit. That's what insurance is for. It's more about preventing my kids from accessing. Its too many steps to go to the big safe and grab defensive firearms. Safe contents will likely be defense firearms for me and her which consists of Smith and Wesson 640 and a Glock 23, spare car keys, flash bangs, a few grand, flashlights w/strobes, and passports.

[wingnut]

Thats a good little pile there, you may need the larger versions cause we have the drawer style...but only keep a S&W 686 in it, and i wouldnt wanna be rattling around trying to get it out, with that other stuff :D

[Vantage]

http://s1.postimage.org/ocxwej4pr/obamalogic.jpg

[J. Fast]

All these gun owners and no one has an opinion on safety? No one has kids? No one has a bedroom vault? ...okay, back to politics.

[IPD]

All these gun owners and no one has an opinion on safety? No one has kids? No one has a bedroom vault? ...okay, back to politics.

if you're paranoid, get a trigger lock & a biometric safe.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

No kids here. My guns are always at arms length. I don't have a big collection, if I did, I would obtain a biometric vault/safe.

Jeremy

[Vantage]

No kids here. My guns are always at arms length. I don't have a big collection, if I did, I would obtain a biometric vault/safe.

Jeremy

Same here.

[green-lantern]

All these gun owners and no one has an opinion on safety? No one has kids? No one has a bedroom vault? ...okay, back to politics.

Yeah, it's called education. I have taught all my kids about gun safety. I also lock my bedroom, that’s where I keep my guns. They know they are not allowed to touch a gun without my permission. They stick to it also, they have called me to ask if they could shoot sheet under a friends fathers supervision. I know the father and trust him.

[dbest671]

No kids, but when Don's grandkids come... we put some in the safe in the basement and the rest have trigger locks.

[J. Fast]

Biometric is new to me. I have no idea about lock styles and benefits of door styles. Wish someone owned one or shopped for one of these to give feedback and crticism on the pros and cons of each style and room placement.

Still have a couple of weeks to do more research on vault styles.

I typically don't like trigger locks. In panic mode trying to use a key to unlock or access a weapon is futile, especially in the dark.

Do you guys have any opinions on the vault styles I linked to? Are they good, bad, cheap? I've been to the Tanner (witch is our local gun show) and have poked around on guntrader.com but have yet to hear whos vaults are good, better, best.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

I've never done any appreciable research, so my opinion isn't worth anything. I'm most intrigued by biometric, for the quickness of entry, and more advanced security. Similar to a trigger guard, I wouldn't want to be screwing around in the dark when lives are potentially on the line.

Jeremy

[J. Fast]

Btw... Just checked guntrader after Obama made his assault weapon proposal speech a few mins ago. Standard military issue high cap mags for M4, M16, and etc just skyrocketed. Going rate jumped from $35 per mag to "pay my asking price" just like that. 20s and 30s are selling for $75 and damn near 100 bucks now. Hang on to high caps or make some $$... Hrmmm, decisions.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Yeah, they are priced through the roof. Standard 30rd AR mags, that you could buy at Cabelas all day for $25 or so, have been going for $75 to $100 since right after Newtown.

Jeremy

[dbest671]

I just bought two 30 round mags for the M1 carbine for less than $50 LOL, guess they are not in high demand.

[green-lantern]

Btw... Just checked guntrader after Obama made his assault weapon proposal speech a few mins ago. Standard military issue high cap mags for M4, M16, and etc just skyrocketed. Going rate jumped from $35 per mag to "pay my asking price" just like that. 20s and 30s are selling for $75 and damn near 100 bucks now. Hang on to high caps or make some $$... Hrmmm, decisions.

Didn't see that one coming lol

I bought a few and I'm considering selling.

[J. Fast]

Whoa, guys just started unloading stuff on armslist.com

Check this out:

ARMSLIST - For Sale: 100 ROUND BETA C-MAG M16/M4 NEW IN BOX CLEAR COVERS (http://www.armslist.com/posts/859510/pueblo-colorado-magazines-for-sale--100-round-beta-c-mag--m16-m4--new-in-box--clear-covers)

ARMSLIST - For Sale/Trade: FS/FT: 3x 30 rnd Ram-line mags (http://www.armslist.com/posts/525996/denver-colorado-magazines-for-sale-trade--fs-ft--3x-30-rnd-ram-line-mags)

Check your states out at ARMSLIST - Gun Classifieds (http://www.armslist.com) assault rifle stuff just caught on fire!

[92pearltt]

Haha just checked out some guns on there, they must be smoking crack. 3 grand for 3 dpms lower, that just insane.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

You can't get lowers, (hardly) anywhere. Supply/demand. It sucks. :/

Jeremy

[92pearltt]

Very true I was thinking about ordering 3 stripped lowers from spikes tactical, but its about a year back order. I have a feeling what ever gun control laws that are passed will be in action by then so I may be screwed.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Same feeling, here. I was going to buy myself an AR for my birthday last year, but got side tracked and forgot. Could've bought a dpms with a blue illuminated scope last week for $899. Still kicking myself in the ass for not jumping on that. Even if I didn't want it, I could've flipped it for a tidy profit.

Jeremy

[nodoze]

dang i sold my lower this last weekend think i shoulda waited a bit longer now , but i figured either parts would be scarce for along time and a hunk of metal would do me no good , or prices would go back eventually and i can get another

[wingnut]

pfffft...


I just bought two 30 round mags for the M1 carbine for less than $50 LOL, guess they are not in high demand.

...although i understand the nuances, an M1 does not have the "scary look" of an AR15 :D


Either way, its gonna be interesting...

New York State SAFE Act (http://troopers.ny.gov/Firearms/NYS_SAFE_Act/)

...who thinks the fed version will duplicate?!?

[onebadmollafolla]

pfffft...



...although i understand the nuances, an M1 does not have the "scary look" of an AR15 :D


Either way, its gonna be interesting...

New York State SAFE Act (http://troopers.ny.gov/Firearms/NYS_SAFE_Act/)

...who thinks the fed version will duplicate?!?

Who thinks the SCOTUS will knock that out of the air with a bat?

[onebadmollafolla]

This guy has a lot of good videos. I like this one, especially.

Obama to announce gun control measures while surrounded by children. THINK OF THE CHILDREN! Fuck him. : progun (http://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/16msrd/obama_to_announce_gun_control_measures_while)

[IPD]

DailyTech - NRA Blames Video Games for Violent Crimes, Then Releases Shooter Game (http://www.dailytech.com/NRA+Blames+Video+Games+for+Violent+Crimes+Then+Rel eases+Shooter+Game/article29661.htm)

ok, now this offends me. when the NRA's exec VP decides to scapegoat by insinuating that we need 1st amendment restrictions to "shore-up" 2nd amendment rights....there needs to be some shitcanning going on. the enemy isn't the fucking constitution. i instantly lose all respect for anyone who tries to blame games, music, movies, etc. PEOPLE are the x-factor, not media, guns, weapon magazines, etc.

[J. Fast]

pfffft...



...although i understand the nuances, an M1 does not have the "scary look" of an AR15 :D


Either way, its gonna be interesting...

New York State SAFE Act (http://troopers.ny.gov/Firearms/NYS_SAFE_Act/)

[\quote]

Fucking bullshit!

[quote=Wingnut] ...who thinks the fed version will duplicate?!?
I don't think that will fly in high advocacy states.

I remember reading in school about a certain government that tried to impose its will on free citizens. I believe the indifference caused the Revolutionary War.

That's what policy like this leads to...

[J. Fast]

DailyTech - NRA Blames Video Games for Violent Crimes, Then Releases Shooter Game (http://www.dailytech.com/NRA+Blames+Video+Games+for+Violent+Crimes+Then+Rel eases+Shooter+Game/article29661.htm)

ok, now this offends me. when the NRA's exec VP decides to scapegoat by insinuating that we need 1st amendment restrictions to "shore-up" 2nd amendment rights....there needs to be some shitcanning going on. the enemy isn't the fucking constitution. i instantly lose all respect for anyone who tries to blame games, music, movies, etc. PEOPLE are the x-factor, not media, guns, weapon magazines, etc.
There's a very heated debate going on in there... I love when gun control advocates use words and phases like "logical", "common sense", and "progression" to add ink to a constitutional amendment.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

This guy has a lot of good videos. I like this one, especially.

Obama to announce gun control measures while surrounded by children. THINK OF THE CHILDREN! Fuck him. : progun (http://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/16msrd/obama_to_announce_gun_control_measures_while)

I think you posted the wrong link? No video, that's a self post.


DailyTech - NRA Blames Video Games for Violent Crimes, Then Releases Shooter Game (http://www.dailytech.com/NRA+Blames+Video+Games+for+Violent+Crimes+Then+Rel eases+Shooter+Game/article29661.htm)

ok, now this offends me. when the NRA's exec VP decides to scapegoat by insinuating that we need 1st amendment restrictions to "shore-up" 2nd amendment rights....there needs to be some shitcanning going on. the enemy isn't the fucking constitution. i instantly lose all respect for anyone who tries to blame games, music, movies, etc. PEOPLE are the x-factor, not media, guns, weapon magazines, etc.

I understand what you're saying, but the video game the NRA released is a basic target practice game. It is no COD, MW, etc. I think blaming video games is a cop out, also. However, with parents today failing to establish with their children, that "it's just a game", and kids entire lives revolving around FPS type games, there probably is a bit of blame to be placed, somewhere.

Jeremy

[wingnut]

Wasnt it Larry the Cable Guy who said..."blaming guns for murders, is like blaming a pencil for misspelling a word" ?

[IPD]

I understand what you're saying, but the video game the NRA released is a basic target practice game. It is no COD, MW, etc. I think blaming video games is a cop out, also. However, with parents today failing to establish with their children, that "it's just a game", and kids entire lives revolving around FPS type games, there probably is a bit of blame to be placed, somewhere.

Jeremy

i actually don't care about the game they released at all. i just am SICK of hearing everyone and their brother blame games, music, etc.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

i actually don't care about the game they released at all. i just am SICK of hearing everyone and their brother blame games, music, etc.

It's basic desensitization, and lack of proper understanding of the real life consequences. There is some culpability. To what degree, or to what party? I don't know; no one truly does. My opinion is that games/music aren't the leading contributor(by a large margin), rather insufficient education. In depressed urban areas, music/games probably are a huge factor. Again, we can flip this right back to education.

Jeremy

[HilbillyHomeboy]

i actually don't care about the game they released at all. i just am SICK of hearing everyone and their brother blame games, music, etc.

It's basic desensitization, and lack of proper understanding of the real life consequences. There is some culpability. To what degree, or to what party? I don't know; no one truly does. My opinion is that games/music aren't the leading contributor(by a large margin), rather insufficient education. In depressed urban areas, music/games probably are a huge factor. Again, we can flip this right back to education.

Jeremy

[IPD]

i disagree. germany has incredibly low gun homicide, and it is the world capital in generating music the censors want to ban.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

i disagree. germany has incredibly low gun homicide, and it is the world capital in generating music the censors want to ban.

Disagree with what? The part where I said that music/games don't play a large part?

And Germany also has very restrictive laws regarding ownership. This is a Country where you have to prove your need for a gun. The laws they have are essentially what Obama and the reactionary fools want. You sure this is the example you want to hang your hat on?

Jeremy

[IPD]

Disagree with what? The part where I said that music/games don't play a large part?

And Germany also has very restrictive laws regarding ownership. This is a Country where you have to prove your need for a gun. The laws they have are essentially what Obama and the reactionary fools want. You sure this is the example you want to hang your hat on?

Jeremy

the problem is, the UK has similar laws on gun control, and they are NOT working there. so clearly, it's not the laws on guns that are working. (at least, i can't draw any connection there). the UK has 4 times the per-capita violent crime that the US has, even though it has about 1/4th the per-capita homicide rate (this is for all homicides, not just those involving firearms; so not an apples-apples comparison). germany has about half the per-capita homicide rate that the UK has--for reference.

the point i'm trying to make here is that there's so very little direct correlation in this realm. i also tend to believe that "mass shootings" tend to happen more exclusively in countries with large populations and higher levels of gun ownership; though it's not cut and dried. norway has less than half the per-capita gun ownership of the USA and barely 5 million citizens. on a per-capita basis, the 69 people killed in the 2011 shooting would be the equivalent of 4,347 US citizens dying in such a rampage--more than the total number killed on 9-11.

brazil has 1/8th the per-capita gun ownership of the USA and over 4x the homicide rate. compare that with germany's less than half the gun-ownership rate & 1/6th the homicide rate. japan has half of germany's homicide rate, less than 1/100th the gun ownership (of the USA), and yet has some of the most violent and gory games and anime ever imagined.

bottom line here is, i favor ENFORCING the laws we have on the books, and ENFORCING strict regulation on the behavior of owners (such as requiring proof of owning a gun-safe before a gun can be purchased). this isn't much different from how car insurance is handled with respect to a driver's license. i also favor holding the gun owner culpable if said firearm was used in a crime and was NOT reported stolen at the time.

that said, restrictions in the type of weapon, the magazine capacity, etc--should not be any more restrictive than they already are. imho, if it's semi-automatic, and you pass all the checks, you should be able to own it. period.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

That's the stance of everyone in this thread. I really haven't the foggiest what you think you're accomplishing.

To address the ban in the UK, gun crime has dropped since 2003, every year. This is all encompassing, air guns, and fake guns as well. Now, do I think it's absolutely the ban? Not a chance. Statistics in the US have also shown a steady decline since the late 70's...and we don't have their oppressive laws. So, a ban isn't the answer, WHICH EVERYONE HERE AGREES WITH.

Brazil? Well, you're right back to education as I've said 53 times. It may be a massive Country, but it's quite rural, both physically and the mentality of many citizens.

Japan? Do you think I'm oblivious to the gun law there? What a ridiculous argument. For anyone that doesn't know, you basically aren't getting a gun there(absolutely no rifles or handguns). The permit, and guantlet of paperwork is purposely designed. Ammo? You better be able to account for every round you've ever fired. Again, this is the argument you want to hang your hat on? Sure about that? You keep painting pictures of societies that have absurdly restrictive laws as your argument. Japan gun law makes the UK look like the wild West.

In any event, no one is touching your video games. Relax.

Jeremy

[IPD]

In any event, no one is touching your video games.

yet..

[Vantage]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTEmY_JwsNQ

I'm amazed there's still some politicians left in that state with some common sense. I'm extremely glad I'm no longer a resident there, for a lot more reasons than just gun laws.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Seriously. Cuomo is batshit crazy. Fuck NY.

Jeremy

[wingnut]

Don't mind the messy car I don't litter .

yea...too late to not mind it, that aint a mess, its a science experiment!

[IPD]

at least it's not a 3/s. i'd have to swaffle you if it were.

[onebadmollafolla]

Good God, Cody! Clean that up!!! :lol:

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Way to get the thread back on track. :lol:

Jeremy

[nodoze]

u know what fuck it i am in no fucking mood today so go about your bitching and whining

[jbuhrman]

Back on topic:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y166/shadow334485/Gun2_zps370a2f8d.jpg

Don't mind my awesome socks
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y166/shadow334485/gun1_zpsdb9e683d.jpg

[onebadmollafolla]

u know what fuck it i am in no fucking mood today so go about your bitching and whining

It's what I'm here to do. Now clean it up! :lol:

[onebadmollafolla]

That, that is quite a burn and a very nice public shaming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGBqkzn24k

[IPD]

i love it. well....everything but the dig on "violent video games". how about we work on banning horror/slasher movies BEFORE we attack violent video games. or maybe start by banning the Crime-drama Broadcasting Syndicate.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Nice SCAR jbuhrman. Wish I had got one while the getting was good.

Here are my new rifles together.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Arschloch/P1260186.jpg

[wingnut]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Assault-weapon-cavemans-AR15-Tactical-Assault-Rock-/271145249791

[IPD]

nice.

[Vantage]

Q: I can't find your TAR on the California approved weapons list. Is there any way you'd be willing to have it drop-tested, so it would be compliant? Feb-01-13
A: I dont have a problem with a drop test..the only reason that California drop test guns is they are very worried gravity will fail. They test it by dropping guns. If a gun ever fails to drop or drops very slowly this will alert them to a possible gravity failure. When that happens they will write a grant to study the environmental impact of floating guns. All guns will be stamped with: Warning Gravity has failed, do not jump towards the sun.

:lol7:

[onebadmollafolla]

Happy Valentines Day, everyone!

http://i.imgur.com/P4ml90H.jpg

[IPD]

Happy Zombie Apocalypse Day, everyone!

http://i.imgur.com/P4ml90H.jpg

ftfy.

[masterjr33]

not to bother anyone. but has anyone found any 9mm +p for sale any where lately. i need a box or two for a recent aquisition into the 9mm realm.. for the wife.. and would like to put some thing in it besides 124Gr FMJ garbage for self defense use... i need like a box of 20-25 9mm +p anything.

[onebadmollafolla]

not to bother anyone. but has anyone found any 9mm +p for sale any where lately. i need a box or two for a recent aquisition into the 9mm realm.. for the wife.. and would like to put some thing in it besides 124Gr FMJ garbage for self defense use... i need like a box of 20-25 9mm +p anything.

If you look hard enough you should be able to find some nice self defense in 9mm at Cabelas, Scheels, Bass Pro, etc. Though it's still hard to find, FMJ is very difficult. Last time I went to Cabelas they had a fair amount of home defense 9mm.

[Desperado]

I think is awesome a lot of y'all are into guns. I've been a dealer now for 20 years. Pretty soon we are going to make a video with the 20mm and a couple of the other class 3's

[Vantage]

I think is awesome a lot of y'all are into guns. I've been a dealer now for 20 years. Pretty soon we are going to make a video with the 20mm and a couple of the other class 3's

3sgto discounts???? :icon23:


Edit: Speaking of, anyone have a good idea on what a good price is for 9mm ball now-a-days? Haven't bought ammo in over a year and with the recent madness as of late, I have no idea what is fair and what's a rip off.

[Desperado]

Honestly I'm going to wait it out. Right now I see a 10$ box go for 35 to 50 bucks. Now I regret it but I just can't bring myself to pay that much when I don't have it. As far as a discount you would haft to live in my area, but I would :33::33::33:

I think my next purchase is going to be a 22 can

[onebadmollafolla]

Honestly I'm going to wait it out. Right now I see a 10$ box go for 35 to 50 bucks. Now I regret it but I just can't bring myself to pay that much when I don't have it. As far as a discount you would haft to live in my area, but I would :33::33::33:

I think my next purchase is going to be a 22 can

Are a FFL dealer? Also, good call on the can. My friend's just arrived the other day. Very quiet.

[Desperado]

Yes I'm a FFL dealer. Yeah I've been doing a lot of research and I have narrowed it down to 3. A Spector II because it seems to be the quietest on FRP and available. The sparrow because of the innovative brake down. The surefire seems the very quietest but its production is delayed. I'm leaning toward the Spector and plan to put it on mt s&w mod 41

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Where are you located?

[masterjr33]

acadamy has 9mm ball for 12.99 /50

[nodoze]

Got my New inside waist band / outside holster from desantis . All leather , one side has a clip for inside the waist band and the other side has a nice loop for a belt if you wanted to wear it outside .

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[onebadmollafolla]

Got my New inside waist band / outside holster from desantis . All leather , one side has a clip for inside the waist band and the other side has a nice loop for a belt if you wanted to wear it outside .

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Nice! I like minimalistic holsters. I use a nice leather form fitted XD holster. Sorry about the pic quality. Picture was taken with a potato.

http://i.imgur.com/PHXeUjf.jpeg

[onebadmollafolla]

May have posted one of his videos a while back but I still want to post these. Very well spoken and to the point. His message is objective which I like. Check out some of his others.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR3t7j2tUec


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4n8egXfmJM

[IPD]

i agree with those.

[nodoze]

only thing i did not like about the holster was i wanted the spare mag holder but the price was right :/ i think the total was only 25 shipped and its left handed . fits the gun snug right now but thats to be expeced with leather. so im breaking it in around the house.

[onebadmollafolla]

i agree with those.

Newest one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LR1jEAHDMc

[nodoze]

5021
Round.one of shotgun mods done , before it had a silly side folding stock , camp paint job , and wood grain forend . I still have the rail to put on and forend
Strap and a holo sight , but have to get diff screws for the rail
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[wingnut]

Found some 10x powder today...and a brick of small rifle primers :D

[wingnut]

time to reload, factory prices are WAYYYY too steep for me...

http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp54398%3Enu%3D4432%3E%3B68%3E234%3EWS NRCG%3D3637367948348nu0mrj

[green-lantern]

time to reload, factory prices are WAYYYY too steep for me...

http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp54398%3Enu%3D4432%3E%3B68%3E234%3EWS NRCG%3D3637367948348nu0mrj

Where all did you get your stuff? I'm interested in doing this also. I assume you are loading 7.62x39?

[wingnut]

Where all did you get your stuff? I'm interested in doing this also. I assume you are loading 7.62x39?

honestly, right now you gotta hit small town gun shops...

found the primers in idaho, the powder in washington and bullets online. my job travels, so its a bit easier for me, lol.

...and you're close in caliber, those are 6.8SPC.

http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp54374%3Enu%3D4432%3E%3B68%3E234%3EWS NRCG%3D3637379859348nu0mrj

left is an 7.62x39, middle is 6.8SPC, and right is 5.56 :D

[onebadmollafolla]

ABC, no less.

LiveLeak.com - Gun Myths Gone in Five Minutes: ABC News 20/20 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c71_1362237045)

[IPD]

1 <3 5.56 NATO.

on another note, someday i'm going to talk the guys at the range into letting me practice on the 4.6x30.

[Desperado]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4557280533634&set=vb.1340121778&type=2&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4556813121949&set=vb.1340121778&type=2&theater

A little windy but still a blast

[nodoze]

Got error messages for both

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[Vantage]

Same.

[wingnut]

1 <3 5.56 NATO.

on another note, someday i'm going to talk the guys at the range into letting me practice on the 4.6x30.

kind of an oddball round, but it reminds me of an article i just read, on a 7.62x40...

...they basically stretch a 5.56 case to accept a 7.62 bullet!

[onebadmollafolla]

kind of an oddball round, but it reminds me of an article i just read, on a 7.62x40...

...they basically stretch a 5.56 case to accept a 7.62 bullet!

Wouldn't it be 7.62x45 then?

[wingnut]

Wouldn't it be 7.62x45 then?

Nah, you lose 5 from the trimming of the narrow end of the 5.56 case...

The 7.62x40 WT is based on the inexpensive and readily available 5.56x45 Nato cartridge case. The 5.56 case is shortened to 1.560” and then re-sized (single operation) in a standard 7.62x40 WT sizing die which results in a formed 7.62x40 WT case with a finished overall case length of 1.565”. The cartridge is designed for 110-150gr .308” diameter bullets loaded to supersonic velocities, but if chambered in a 1-8 twist barrel is also suitable for heavy bullet subsonic use also. Click here to download the Cartridge Case Spec Sheet.

...may sound odd, but the idea is 7.62 rounds in 5.56 mags :D

[IPD]

but the 4.6 isn't a shoehorned round. it was specifically made for the mp7. and the smaller size means less muzzle lift, meaning more bullets hit the target. that...and it's amazingly effective on body armor.

[j2k4]

Okay, guys - I haven't been into guns for about 35 years - what do you think of this?

FNH 7.62x51 (.308) FNAR Semi-Auto Rifle (http://www.gunblast.com/FN-AR.htm)

Neighbor has one for sale...

[onebadmollafolla]

Okay, guys - I haven't been into guns for about 35 years - what do you think of this?

FNH 7.62x51 (.308) FNAR Semi-Auto Rifle (http://www.gunblast.com/FN-AR.htm)

Neighbor has one for sale...

They are a very nice Belgium gun. That's the NATO round for the .308 in a semi auto SCAR. Our military started using SCARS in recent history. I can't imagine what he wants for it during these chaotic times.

[onebadmollafolla]

Nah, you lose 5 from the trimming of the narrow end of the 5.56 case...

The 7.62x40 WT is based on the inexpensive and readily available 5.56x45 Nato cartridge case. The 5.56 case is shortened to 1.560” and then re-sized (single operation) in a standard 7.62x40 WT sizing die which results in a formed 7.62x40 WT case with a finished overall case length of 1.565”. The cartridge is designed for 110-150gr .308” diameter bullets loaded to supersonic velocities, but if chambered in a 1-8 twist barrel is also suitable for heavy bullet subsonic use also. Click here to download the Cartridge Case Spec Sheet.

...may sound odd, but the idea is 7.62 rounds in 5.56 mags :D

That's interesting. I have never heard of anyone doing that conversion. I can see getting them to fit in a different mag, but is it worth it?? I mean, you can pick up 7.62x39 all day long that's made for AK's/SKS's, etc.

[wingnut]

They are a very nice Belgium gun. That's the NATO round for the .308 in a semi auto SCAR. Our military started using SCARS in recent history. I can't imagine what he wants for it during these chaotic times.

interestingly enough, FN just won the M4 contract for the USArmy...

http://kitup.military.com/2013/02/army-awards-m4m4a1-contract-fn.html


That's interesting. I have never heard of anyone doing that conversion. I can see getting them to fit in a different mag, but is it worth it?? I mean, you can pick up 7.62x39 all day long that's made for AK's/SKS's, etc.

yea, but IMHO the only good thing about an AK is the cheap ammo. i rather like the idea of 7.62 bullets in a 30 round 5.56 mag, but if i had my druthers, i would grab a Colt901 which can fire both 7.62 and 5.56 :D

funny comparo between AK and AR...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGih7eWI3E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[onebadmollafolla]

interestingly enough, FN just won the M4 contract for the USArmy...

http://kitup.military.com/2013/02/army-awards-m4m4a1-contract-fn.html



yea, but IMHO the only good thing about an AK is the cheap ammo. i rather like the idea of 7.62 bullets in a 30 round 5.56 mag, but if i had my druthers, i would grab a Colt901 which can fire both 7.62 and 5.56 :D

funny comparo between AK and AR...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGih7eWI3E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

So would you be able to take those loads through a .308 upper in an AR?

[j2k4]

They are a very nice Belgium gun. That's the NATO round for the .308 in a semi auto SCAR. Our military started using SCARS in recent history. I can't imagine what he wants for it during these chaotic times.

Me either, but he's got lots of other nice hardware.

This one has several extra mags (20 round) and other doodads.

Really torn; this is one of those situations where I really can't afford it, but I could, if I can talk myself into it, y'know?

Be nice to widen the perimeter...:)

[nodoze]

well i suppose technically you would be able to since you are modifying the length, but 7.62 isnt dead on .308 is it?

[wingnut]

So would you be able to take those loads through a .308 upper in an AR?

Thats really a question for Wilson Combat, since i know they make uppers for them!

Wilson Combat | 7.62x40 WT Project (http://wilsoncombat.com/new/762x40-project.asp)

The 7.62x40 WT only requires one unique component, the barrel to build. All other standard AR platform 5.56 caliber components are compatible. The 7.62x40 WT will function reliably with standard unmodified Lancer L5 magazines if downloaded to 17 or 24 rounds or Wilson Combat has modified Lancer L5 AWM magazines with 18/19 or 28/29 round capacity available that function ultra reliable.

[onebadmollafolla]

Thats really a question for Wilson Combat, since i know they make uppers for them!

Wilson Combat | 7.62x40 WT Project (http://wilsoncombat.com/new/762x40-project.asp)

The 7.62x40 WT only requires one unique component, the barrel to build. All other standard AR platform 5.56 caliber components are compatible. The 7.62x40 WT will function reliably with standard unmodified Lancer L5 magazines if downloaded to 17 or 24 rounds or Wilson Combat has modified Lancer L5 AWM magazines with 18/19 or 28/29 round capacity available that function ultra reliable.


I have to say, I'd much rather just go the route of an AR-10 or any other 7.62 built gun than go through that. Not only that, Wilson Combat is absurdly pricey. I have used their 1911 mags and they seem to work quite well. However, from the company that prices their 1911's at $5,000...yeesh. I'll just go with an AK or variant.

[wingnut]

I have to say, I'd much rather just go the route of an AR-10 or any other 7.62 built gun than go through that. Not only that, Wilson Combat is absurdly pricey. I have used their 1911 mags and they seem to work quite well. However, from the company that prices their 1911's at $5,000...yeesh. I'll just go with an AK or variant.


Agreed...im waiting for prices to come back to reality, then grab a colt 901 :D

[92pearltt]

Picked this up on sunday, was looking to get a starter 1911 and this one fit the bill. After shooting it a bit yesterday I love it.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/wdude07/885463_10151403375228451_1779466310_o_zps2acc89c1. jpg

[nodoze]

What brand ?

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[Reker]

I have an AK-47, Rock island 1911, and a very old .22 that has been in the family for over 50 years. I will put pics up when I get home later this week.

[JohnnyTurbo]

...yea, but IMHO the only good thing about an AK is the cheap ammo...

did you mean to say cheapER ammo? Current AK ammo pricing is anything but cheap, but it is less expensive than .223 or .308. I went to a gunshow (shudder) last Saturday looking for AR uppers and saw 7.62x39 priced at $350/500 ($700/case) and I saw .308 priced out at $800/1000. I refused to look at 9mm and .223 prices, but was told that the .223 was going for $700 for cheap ass Wolf and was upwards of $800/case for good ammo. I was seeing .45ACP going for $38 to $50 for $18 boxes and the coup de gras was 500 round bricks of 22LR going for $85! I will not buy ammo at these prices.

I was amazed that I could not find a dealer selling barreled uppers. Our shows usually had a half dozen guys selling them. On my last go-a-round, I found one guy tucked in a corner that had around a dozen and a half uppers. The best part was he told me the guy next to him had a dedicated 22LR upper for sale and it would be a better deal than anything he had. It was and I got it for $400 OTD.
It's a Viper conversion and came with 2 10 rd magazines. I have a couple of Blackdog AR/22LR mags that should work with it. Now I have a CMMG 22LR conversion w/1 mag that I don't really need. Shit, I paid $225 just for the CMMG bolt & mag, so getting a 16" barreled upper receiver and a 22LR bolt and 2 mags was a sweet deal for $400. The cheapest barreled upper that the other guy had started at $350, so I would have had close to $600 instead of $400.

Holsters, accessories, scopes & optics were still fairly priced as far as I could see. It was just ammo and assault weapons that were nuts. One guy had a UTAS shotgun there for $2000 & another dealer had the new Kel-Tec twin tube shotgun priced out at $1995. There is a definite premimum put on long guns that look bad ass and strike fear into liberal jackasses. :(

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Shows, in todays arena, are for opportunists looking to fleece the public. Find a good, local, dealer. They're still out there. My guy isn't marking up anything; he's spending his time just trying to get guns on the shelf, and selling them at normal prices. In fact, I've never paid retail with him. He always gives me about 11% off. There's at least 2 other dealers within 5 miles of my house that are operating under the same business model.

I applaud you for not paying the absurd prices. If more folks would take that stand, the broader market will revert to normal. It's starting to happen.

In other news WV Congress has totally scrapped their recently introduced gun control legislation. Nice to have officials that actually listen to their constituents. Now, if only we could get DC of the same mindset...

Jeremy

[IPD]

Shows, in todays arena, are for opportunists looking to fleece the public. Find a good, local, dealer. They're still out there. My guy isn't marking up anything; he's spending his time just trying to get guns on the shelf, and selling them at normal prices. In fact, I've never paid retail with him. He always gives me about 11% off. There's at least 2 other dealers within 5 miles of my house that are operating under the same business model.

I applaud you for not paying the absurd prices. If more folks would take that stand, the broader market will revert to normal. It's starting to happen.

In other news WV Congress has totally scrapped their recently introduced gun control legislation. Nice to have officials that actually listen to their constituents. Now, if only we could get DC of the same mindset...

Jeremy

state legislators still have regular jobs, because their pay as legislators is relatively trivial. federal legislators are a different story. so it's much easier to sway local/state politicians, because you don't have to wave a truckload of money on their faces to get something done.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

state legislators still have regular jobs, because their pay as legislators is relatively trivial. federal legislators are a different story. so it's much easier to sway local/state politicians, because you don't have to wave a truckload of money on their faces to get something done.

I know. Wish it wasn't so...

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/305278_512770908780559_141860436_n.jpg

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

My best recommendation for you is to realize every election this is going to happen. While I was still in Taiwan, I ordered all my parts to finish my AR, plus spares, bought my SIG556 and 2,000 rounds of 5.56 at $0.32 a round. I had to go through 2008 searching Walmart daily for ammo so stocked up this time around. Semper Paratus.

[IPD]

My best recommendation for you is to realize every election this is going to happen. While I was still in Taiwan, I ordered all my parts to finish my AR, plus spares, bought my SIG556 and 2,000 rounds of 5.56 at $0.32 a round. I had to go through 2008 searching Walmart daily for ammo so stocked up this time around. Semper Paratus.

didn't know USCG deployed to taiwan.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Haha, Im not military but enjoy Latin.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Updated the AR with full magpul furniture.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Arschloch/20130501_160044_zps5b189065.jpg

[Vantage]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/485609_372952906142969_805163217_n.jpg

[wingnut]

lol ^^^ reminds me...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjvTJIyBQf4iOU2kh7_sks5yIp2dxka T8S6Tzug3C_krEuZMFLyg

[JasonY]

My new AR, all Magpul furniture.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/JasonVR4/photobucket-32712-1368311202960_zpsbabba4be.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/JasonVR4/media/photobucket-32712-1368311202960_zpsbabba4be.jpg.html)

Jason

[onebadmollafolla]

My new AR, all Magpul furniture.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/JasonVR4/photobucket-32712-1368311202960_zpsbabba4be.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/JasonVR4/media/photobucket-32712-1368311202960_zpsbabba4be.jpg.html)

Jason

Looks nice! Now it's time for a standard capacity magazine. :D

[wingnut]

lol...depends on if your definition of "standard" means 30 :D

[JasonY]

I have a 30, i like the 20's as the mag isnt the lowest portion of the gun.

Plan to buy as many as i can afford since DE is trying to go full retard on the guns just like MD did.

Jason

[onebadmollafolla]

I have a 30, i like the 20's as the mag isnt the lowest portion of the gun.

Plan to buy as many as i can afford since DE is trying to go full retard on the guns just like MD did.

Jason

If you want some more 30 round mags let me know. I can sell you some PMags so long as is doesn't break any sort of legislation. I have more than I need that are not only unused but still in their sealed packaging.

[IPD]

don'tcha love how they're trying to outlaw 3D printed firearms?

[onebadmollafolla]

This West Virginia journalist takes a beating on gun control. That was hard to watch, even beings I am against his outlook on the issue. Brutal...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ECxDvwObwZk

[JasonY]

Verbal beat down.

Jason

[IPD]

pwnd!

[j2k4]

Schadenfreude = guilty pleasure = pleasure = bottom line

I love it when Public Television steps on it's own dick. :D

[92pearltt]

Just put this together, couldn't find one to buy so I built one. Umbrella corp HUUCR upper, Aero precision lower, magpul forend and stock, ergo grip. Just need to pick up some iron sights and call it good.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/wdude07/null_zpsc9616844.jpg (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/wdude07/media/null_zpsc9616844.jpg.html)

[onebadmollafolla]

Just put this together, couldn't find one to buy so I built one. Umbrella corp HUUCR upper, Aero precision lower, magpul forend and stock, ergo grip. Just need to pick up some iron sights and call it good.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/wdude07/null_zpsc9616844.jpg (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/wdude07/media/null_zpsc9616844.jpg.html)


I love the fact that the proposed legislation had the motto "even if it saves one life it's worth it" not only fell through, but caused countless AR's and ammo to fly off the shelves into civilian hands. Nice AR, I am sure you'll enjoy it.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Just put this together, couldn't find one to buy so I built one. Umbrella corp HUUCR upper, Aero precision lower, magpul forend and stock, ergo grip. Just need to pick up some iron sights and call it good.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/wdude07/null_zpsc9616844.jpg (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/wdude07/media/null_zpsc9616844.jpg.html)

Nice build, its a lot more satisfying than buying one.

[onebadmollafolla]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GNu7ldL1LM

[stealthee]

I've always loved that video.

[Vantage]

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/fuck-yeah-14.jpg?w=500

[HilbillyHomeboy]

I love that pic. :)

Jeremy

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Picked up this Marlin 336cs for $190 locally. She shoots quarter groups at 50 yards.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Arschloch/20130604_194337_zps11498167.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/Arschloch/media/20130604_194337_zps11498167.jpg.html)

[onebadmollafolla]

Nice Marlin! Always have been a fan of lever actions. :)


Also, could anyone imagine if a president came out and gave this speech. That would be incredible. One of the best speeches I've heard. Too bad our politicians are a bunch of knobs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY

[Vantage]

The county over from my parents house and where I grew up...needless to say NY leadership fucking sucks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44zW84FKd50

[stealthee]

Powerful. Love it.

[onebadmollafolla]

Very good video. Sadly, NY politicians are a mafia. If you want 2nd Amendment rights you need money and power. Commoners need not apply.

Sent from my Galaxy S III using Tapatalk.

[onebadmollafolla]

Well...this is astonishing marksmanship. :lol: Guy knows his way around a bolt gun!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKh_13zOGFc

[IPD]

shit hot. think we can sign him up for marine sniper school?

[Vantage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZo4hbGJjVI

[masterjr33]

wishing i could find some .30-30 to shoot my marlin with.. havent seen any in months. 270. 308 243. everywhere.
freaking .30-30. NONE.

[Alex3000gt]

http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/MossbergDeerFieldCombo.jpg

Mossberg 500 20 gauge. Field & Deer combo kit. Comes with smooth barrel and rifled slug barrel including scope. The kit comes with full, modified and improved chokes.

Black Friday at Dick's for $260.

[wingnut]

wishing i could find some .30-30 to shoot my marlin with.. havent seen any in months. 270. 308 243. everywhere.
freaking .30-30. NONE.

In stock now, 90cents a round...

Federal® Power-Shok™ Ammunition : Cabela's (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Rifle-Ammunition%7C/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104532480/Federal174-Power-Shok8482-Ammunition/728422.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshoot ing-ammunition-rifle-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100190%2F&rid=11&WT.tsrc=AFF&WT.mc_id=cj3946285)

[fullracegt]

Nice Marlin! Always have been a fan of lever actions. :)


Also, could anyone imagine if a president came out and gave this speech. That would be incredible. One of the best speeches I've heard. Too bad our politicians are a bunch of knobs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY



wow what a great video..i didnt vote for obama but i feel like theres nothing i can do to prevent him from getting his way,its a pretty shitty feeling and i know alot of americans are to stupid to see what he is

[green-lantern]

wow what a great video..i didnt vote for obama but i feel like theres nothing i can do to prevent him from getting his way,its a pretty shitty feeling and i know alot of americans are to stupid to see what he is

I think they are starting to see the light. My brother is a big democrat and even he had very critical things to say about this government. Unfortunately I don't think it really matters who is in office, we are loosing freedoms at an alarming rate. A lot of the BS started back under Bush after 911.

[IPD]

I think they are starting to see the light. My brother is a big democrat and even he had very critical things to say about this government. Unfortunately I don't think it really matters who is in office, we are loosing freedoms at an alarming rate. A lot of the BS started back under Bush after 911.

without redirecting this into the political section, it probably has to do with opportunism. and i wouldn't be surprised if the name "bilderberg" came up at least once.

[onebadmollafolla]

Especially if you live in a metropolitan area, carry now more than ever. The real hash tags should be #RandomActsOfViolentMurder

And you can bet he's walking unless it's a brain dead jury.

http://i.imgur.com/rlEqsYJ.jpg

[IPD]

scary. why the fuck am i out here defending america? why? is THIS what i'm protecting? seriously...wtf.

*edit*
i know we have a 1st amendment and all, but have we so completely lost faith in the JUDICIAL system, that people will resort to violence--regardless of the facts?

and furthermore, why the JUDICIAL system? sure, it hasn't been doing a great job of cracking-down on BS laws that are unconstitutional...but why start there? isn't the LEGISLATIVE system the crux of the problem to begin with?

[masterjr33]

In stock now, 90cents a round...

Federal® Power-Shok™ Ammunition : Cabela's (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Rifle-Ammunition%7C/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104532480/Federal174-Power-Shok8482-Ammunition/728422.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshoot ing-ammunition-rifle-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100190%2F&rid=11&WT.tsrc=AFF&WT.mc_id=cj3946285)

no .30-30 showing on that page. i wish.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Thanks for the likes on my 30-30. It doesnt disappoint :D If you want to find some, Walmart has some around $16.27 for 20 rds. Its what I bought. Its a decent load and the cheapest Ive found.

[j2k4]

Not to deflect the thread, but had something neat happen a few days ago.

Back around 1960, my folks bought a 640 acre plot w/farmhouse on Lake Huron, about 35 miles south of Sault Ste. Marie, MI.

While scouting the property after moving in, my dad found, in an old ramshackle hunting cabin, three boxes of Eley Brothers (England) pin-fire 16 Ga shot shells - one box was full (100 empty shells), one had 88 shells, and the third had 9 loaded shells in it.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/1backforty8/th_NewImage_zps3e25288a.jpg (http://s485.photobucket.com/user/1backforty8/media/NewImage_zps3e25288a.jpg.html)

He's been hauling these things all over God's creation since then.

He called me a while back and asked if I'd help him find out if they're worth anything, so I scouted around Ebay, etc, and found pinfire shells of various European manufacture selling for anywhere from $5 to $25 each, some rifle cartridges and an empty box from an Italian or German company selling for $700; not much beyond that.

Asked around my circle (I have several real firearms-wise buddies), and my friend Nigel suggested talking to the people at JD Julia (big auction-house, with a heavy-duty firearms division), so I emailed them the relevant details - took them two weeks to get back - "Well, it's a very limited market, not many people, blah, blah, blah...".

I sent the guy some pics, and he sends me a full-bore fapper fan-letter, 'holy shit, you may have struck the pin-fire motherlode', and he thinks my Dad's little trove could fetch upwards of 10K.

Neat, huh? :)

Auction will be in October; I'll try to remember to update.

[onebadmollafolla]

Pulled a few from storage. :D

http://www.imgur.com/CizvL1W.jpeg

Sent from my Galaxy S III using Tapatalk.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Nice but that AR is going to be pretty worthless with sights/optic. :lo5l:

[j2k4]

Pulled a few from storage. :D

http://www.imgur.com/CizvL1W.jpeg

Sent from my Galaxy S III using Tapatalk.

Love that old Mark III.

I almost wish my Mark VI hadn't been sporterized so long ago.

Still a damn speedy bolt - my buddy mounted a scope for me and shot a two-inch group at 100 yards; he told me he thought it had seen very little use. :)

[onebadmollafolla]

Nice but that AR is going to be pretty worthless with sights/optic. :lo5l:

Haven't put my red dot on yet. Still need to get my backups after that.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

I would do back up sights first. Irons won't fail.

[Vantage]

I would do back up sights first. Irons won't fail.

And neither will replacing the batteries.

[onebadmollafolla]

Love that old Mark III.

I almost wish my Mark VI hadn't been sporterized so long ago.

Still a damn speedy bolt - my buddy mounted a scope for me and shot a two-inch group at 100 yards; he told me he thought it had seen very little use. :)

My German heritage should tell me to get a Mauser. I refuse to get a Mosin because this is America and fuck communism and no Mauser because fuck Nazis. :D

[j2k4]

My German heritage should tell me to get a Mauser. I refuse to get a Mosin because this is America and fuck communism and no Mauser because fuck Nazis. :D

A proper appreciation of history has affected your choice in firearms?

Good man, Alex. :)

[onebadmollafolla]

A proper appreciation of history has affected your choice in firearms?

Good man, Alex. :)

More so the fact that my grandpa moved here from Germany than anything. Sans the immigration, I could be a full blooded kraut. Glad I am not. Vereinigten Staaten ist über alles in der Welt. :D

[IPD]

More so the fact that my grandpa moved here from Germany than anything. Sans the immigration, I could be a full blooded kraut. Glad I am not. Vereinigten Staaten ist über alles in der Welt. :D

eh...there's a lot to like about germany. trust me. ;)

[Vantage]

eh...there's a lot to like about germany. trust me. ;)

Like titties and beer.

[IPD]

yep. i may have just found my favorite beer though. and i don't like beer. so me liking one is like it raining playboy playmates.

[j2k4]

eh...there's a lot to like about germany. trust me. ;)

I think our references were to the more aberrant historical modalities.


Like titties and beer.

Never anything wrong with mammalian protuberances or fermented beverages. :p

[stealthee]

yep. i may have just found my favorite beer though. and i don't like beer. so me liking one is like it raining playboy playmates.

Sounds kind of like me. I quit drinking beer probably 10 years ago. Over July 4th weekend I went to Summitt Motorsports Park (Norwalk, OH) and ended up buying a case of Bud Light to start the weekend. My cousin bought a 6 pack of Bud Light Platinum. One of those and the regular Bud Lights sat for awhile. Since that day I have drank an average of 2 or 3 beers a day. My cousin's keep giving me a hard time because they know how how anti-beer I was before.

[onebadmollafolla]

eh...there's a lot to like about germany. trust me. ;)

Oh, I agree with that too.

[R/T93]

My first handgun! It is a CZ52. Now I just have to find ammo for it.... 7.62x25, all the surplus dried up a 6 months ago :(

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Ultor2/20130909_211922_zps64f440f5.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Ultor2/20130910_201137_zpsa5c0d905.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Ultor2/32c430ec-e799-4638-a5fa-16bb1a7645ea_zps41181a4d.jpg

The markings show that it was sent to get refurb'd by the factory in 1991. It went from grey to blue then. Looks like it has VERY few rounds through it since the dip.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Ultor2/20130909_213225_zps679b06ee.jpg

[Danube_3KGT]

Ive been gone awhile but I am going to try to come back and act like I never left..

Heres my newest AR15
Loki Weapon Sytems Fighting Tactical model
LWSF Tactical Lower
Integrated winter trigger guard
Integrated CQB Magwell Grip with XL magwell
4-4.5lb. single stage trigger
Magpul MIAD grip
Ergo F93 retractable buttstock
5.56 NATO 16" SS Nitride double fluted barrel
1x8 RH twist M4 extension Mid Gas
BattleComp 2.0
LWSF Receiver
NiB-X coated full-auto rated bolt carrier
Nickel-boron coated fire control group
Phase5Tactical Ambi Battle charging handle
TROY 15" Alpha handguard w/ Troy Squid grips
Magpul AFG
Posted this photo because its an all around good shot, but I have changed it a bit since this.
http://i.imgur.com/iMp27Wv.jpg

and heres an ugly photo of what it looks like now
http://i.imgur.com/OcIdr3i.jpg

[Vantage]

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1236212_518121604935805_1674622709_n.jpg

[HilbillyHomeboy]

http://fotos.mtb-news.de/img/photos/1/1/1/9/4/6/_/large/TacticalFacepalm.jpg

[wingnut]

My first handgun! It is a CZ52. Now I just have to find ammo for it.... 7.62x25, all the surplus dried up a 6 months ago :(

...like this?!?

Ammo To Go : 50rds - 7.62x25 Tokarev Prvi Partizan 85gr. JHP Ammo [PP-R7.01] - $25.95 (http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/cPath/167/products_id/11234)

EDIT***They have a whole three boxes in stock, better get on it :D

[onebadmollafolla]

I encourage watching the whole thing. However, if you want the part where Moore is caught dead to rights, start at 4:45. Brutal.

Bonus edgy comment: A ban on fast food and poor health upkeep would be a more relevant topic in regards to preventing deaths.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1DhZyqsyRU

[onebadmollafolla]

The fact he gets burned about gun crime and mass shooting statistics and his rebuttal is: "Do you really need a magazine that can hold 100 bullets?"...that's when you know you just lost HARD.

[j2k4]

I encourage watching the whole thing. However, if you want the part where Moore is caught dead to rights, start at 4:45. Brutal.

Bonus edgy comment: A ban on fast food and poor health upkeep would be a more relevant topic in regards to preventing deaths.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1DhZyqsyRU


The fact he gets burned about gun crime and mass shooting statistics and his rebuttal is: "Do you really need a magazine that can hold 100 bullets?"...that's when you know you just lost HARD.

Exactly and precisely, Alex.

The difficulty is, no one who was in attendance cared.

Maher will forget it the next time he discusses guns, and it'll surely never be mentioned around Michael Moore, if Maher ever again invites him on to overload one of his chairs. :sad:

[FeaRpb]

I have been putting a spread sheet together for my AR-15 build.

Hopefully start buying the pieces soon. (Even tho I should be buying my car stuff sighhh)

[Vantage]

I have been putting a spread sheet together for my AR-15 build.

Hopefully start buying the pieces soon. (Even tho I should be buying my car stuff sighhh)

What's on the list? Are prices finally starting to come back to reality yet?

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Prices are down. Still a touch high, but not the $1,500 for a $799 Bushmaster/DPMS stupidity that was going on.

Jeremy

[FeaRpb]

Here is my list.

I am getting the lower and upper from a friend that ordered the months ago but didn't use them on his build so he is going to sell them to me. Which is why the price for both are 175 since I don't know the real price of them.

http://i.imgur.com/pxzhfzy.png

[Vantage]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LrxjYfl05ek

[j2k4]

Not to deflect the thread, but had something neat happen a few days ago.

Back around 1960, my folks bought a 640 acre plot w/farmhouse on Lake Huron, about 35 miles south of Sault Ste. Marie, MI.

While scouting the property after moving in, my dad found, in an old ramshackle hunting cabin, three boxes of Eley Brothers (England) pin-fire 16 Ga shot shells - one box was full (100 empty shells), one had 88 shells, and the third had 9 loaded shells in it.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/1backforty8/th_NewImage_zps3e25288a.jpg (http://s485.photobucket.com/user/1backforty8/media/NewImage_zps3e25288a.jpg.html)

He's been hauling these things all over God's creation since then.

He called me a while back and asked if I'd help him find out if they're worth anything, so I scouted around Ebay, etc, and found pinfire shells of various European manufacture selling for anywhere from $5 to $25 each, some rifle cartridges and an empty box from an Italian or German company selling for $700; not much beyond that.

Asked around my circle (I have several real firearms-wise buddies), and my friend Nigel suggested talking to the people at JD Julia (big auction-house, with a heavy-duty firearms division), so I emailed them the relevant details - took them two weeks to get back - "Well, it's a very limited market, not many people, blah, blah, blah...".

I sent the guy some pics, and he sends me a full-bore fapper fan-letter, 'holy shit, you may have struck the pin-fire motherlode', and he thinks my Dad's little trove could fetch upwards of 10K.

Neat, huh? :)

Auction will be in October; I'll try to remember to update.

Well then.




No jackpot, but it got the 2K reserve - less the vig, a tidy sum. not too bad for carting them a few thousand miles. :D

[j2k4]

Here is a very basic lesson in accountability for the head P-word guy:

Shakeup at Guns & Ammo after gun control column backfires | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/08/shakeup-at-guns-ammo-after-gun-control-editorial-backfires/)

[IPD]

Here is a very basic lesson in accountability for the head P-word guy:

Shakeup at Guns & Ammo after gun control column backfires | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/08/shakeup-at-guns-ammo-after-gun-control-editorial-backfires/)

we already do background checks on every gun purchase. and as far as metcalf's point about "regulation" on other constitutional freedoms...that's a load of hooey. the "regulation" he speaks of is merely a safeguard against the freedoms of another being infringed upon. "human sacrifice" clearly violates another's life. "libel" is not freedom of speech, nor is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater--both of which impinge upon the life/liberty/pursuit of happiness by another individual.

the most violent areas of the country are those with the strictest gun control laws. people need to wake the fuck up.

[onebadmollafolla]

Went duck and pheasant hunting this weekend in South Dakota. My 870 Xpress Super Magnum functioned quite well for getting the entire gun submerged in water and into a few feet of much.


Picture I snapped as we were waiting.

http://www.imgur.com/lkipAN8.jpeg

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[j2k4]

we already do background checks on every gun purchase. and as far as metcalf's point about "regulation" on other constitutional freedoms...that's a load of hooey. the "regulation" he speaks of is merely a safeguard against the freedoms of another being infringed upon. "human sacrifice" clearly violates another's life. "libel" is not freedom of speech, nor is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater--both of which impinge upon the life/liberty/pursuit of happiness by another individual.

the most violent areas of the country are those with the strictest gun control laws. people need to wake the fuck up.

My point was that they boned it and were canned, as was appropriate.

That is all.

[R/T93]

Got me a new handgun earlier this week!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Ultor2/20131130_160356.jpg

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It is a CZ75 PCR. The PCR is the alloy framed compact, all PCR's have the decocker instead of a safety. The gun is double/single action and is SWEET! The stock grips are excellent, I put about 70 rounds through it shooting at cans and the hillside Thanksgiving morning and shooting it was just as good as looking at it! I need to shoot some paper, i really had no idea where I was at while shooting. I am VERY new to shooting so I cant go saying that the gun is accurate (but its not any more innacurate than any other 3.7" barreled gun out there).

[R/T93]

Also a couple months ago I bought a CZ52, this thing is a CANNON! Shoots .30 cal downrange at ~1600 fps.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Ultor2/20130910_201137_zpsa5c0d905.jpg

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The 52 is a riot to shoot, guys at the range look at WTF is going off since its so loud. Spent brass goes flying 20+ feet in a 45 degree arc, I love it!

[R/T93]

I picked up a new plain jane Ruger 10/22 as well, put some Tech sights on it. 25 round mags go so damn fast!

[HLxDrummer]

Any suggestions on a first time hand gun? Not sure if I want to get one but have been considering it for fun at the range and home defense. Probably won't carry it.

Anywhere to buy used (or do you need to be knowledgeable about guns to spot bad used ones?)

[stealthee]

My brother asked me today what a .357 Desert Eagle was worth because apparently his co-worker has bought a XBox One and someone wants to trade him the 357 and $100 for the XBox.

[onebadmollafolla]

My brother asked me today what a .357 Desert Eagle was worth because apparently his co-worker has bought a XBox One and someone wants to trade him the 357 and $100 for the XBox.

The Desert Eagle is modular. You can switch between a variety of .50 Action Express, .44 Mag, or even .357 Mag in the standard size Desert Eagle by Magnum Research. I would not trade ANY for an XBONE. Aside from the depreciation of technology, it is still a terrible trade. If he trades, it one of the worst things he could do from the standpoint of investments and common sense.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Just picked up a new CCW. Absolutely love the Shield!

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[Valhallaz]

The Kimbers...

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On top is my daily carry, a Gold Combat Stainless II with Crimson Trace laser grips. Next is Barb's Ultra TLE II, also with a laser grip, and the last is my backup piece, a Custom Stainless Target in 10mm.