3S w/ fender flares

[rossfashow]

I'd like to request a pic to know what a 3s with fender flares look like. Will it look retarded? I wonder if it would look cool as a track car.

[DocWalt]

Phil from SCE's car:
http://supercar-engineering.com/images/SC1-Ging1.jpg
http://supercar-engineering.com/images/SC1-Ging2.jpg

[Atrosity]

One of my most favorite stealths!

[rossfashow]

Haha thanks I didn't realize he had them on the front since they were painted. Looked like it was pulled to me lol. Do you guys remember what offset, wheel and tire size he is running?

[i3igpete]

315's on 18x11 CCW classics, if highboosted recalls correctly

[x2percentmilk]

ill try to dig it up, he has said it before.
something like 12 inch wide or something ridiculous lmao.

edit: ^ that sound right

[Runner up]

Then of course, there's the pit road m fenders.

http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/gallery/misc_cars/pit_road_m_mitsubishi_gto/0008.jpg

[Goallie11]

I think the pitroad ones look pretty good. But why is it a law in most states that your wheels can't stick out past the fenders?

[MaxClass]

Probably because in inclement weather they would sling mud, slush, snow and rain all over in the air and all over other drivers windshields. Other than that I have no idea.

[stealthee]

As MaxClass stated its a danger to other drivers if your tires stick out. You could kick up rocks much easier into other drivers windshields etc.

[rossfashow]

As MaxClass stated its a danger to other drivers if your tires stick out. You could kick up rocks much easier into other drivers windshields etc.

You know whats messed up about that? All the lifted trucks that throw rocks into our windshields!

Anyway, I would like the PMR over fenders or the Ciancis as for fender flares, I dont think it would be practical for a streetcar

[Atrosity]

As MaxClass stated its a danger to other drivers if your tires stick out. You could kick up rocks much easier into other drivers windshields etc.


You know whats messed up about that? All the lifted trucks that throw rocks into our windshields!

Anyway, I would like the PMR over fenders or the Ciancis as for fender flares, I dont think it would be practical for a streetcar


Yeah exactly, well with that logic...should be illegal to have bigger tires and lifted trucks...there fender wheel well didn't do my windshield justice.

[stealthee]

Some states, Arizona is one, have a law where if you have a lift on your truck you must run mudflaps.

I wonder if a stock 3s is required to run mudflaps with all that wheel gap. LOL

[Atrosity]

LOL stock 3S's are monster trucks.

[TT4ME]

Lifted trucks pass the fender laws like Harleys pass the noise laws.

[Goallie11]

Haha I'm glad I don't need mudflaps with being lowered now.

Thanks for the info, it definitely makes sense but i do agree that trucks should be required to have mudflaps. I dont know if its required here but everytime you drive you see either lifted trucks or mexican trucks that are lowered with ridiculous wheels sticking way out. Looks horrible.

[rossfashow]

anyway, back to topic. Anymore pics of fender flared 3s's? and what was the offset that Phil was running?

[MR2]

Bump.

need someone to do a GOOOD job of this...need them to flow into the body kit rather than look like someone taped them there, I think running them all the way down the sides of the car helps

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs785.ash1/167556_1646734262598_1664185648_1463331_796593_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs794.ash1/168421_1648229099968_1664185648_1467806_6218307_n. jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1387.snc4/163907_1648229979990_1664185648_1467808_6065248_n. jpg

[92EuroDiamante]

I got busted on this a year or so ago. My tires protruded from the body by milimeters, to the point that camber on compression made rubbing impossible. Lame. I had to get the fenders modified because of this.

[GTOX]

There was a picture floating around of a black 3S with rolled/pumped/flared fenders that I thought looked quite good, i'll try find it.

[MR2]

please do :)

[GTOX]

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu203/timmm36/3fee65a7.jpg

Only slightly flared, the PRM fenders look the best IMO.

[i3igpete]

i would be ok with pop riveted overfenders. the key point here being affordable and not requiring spending $5000 at a bodyshop to mold it.

[MR2]

They very good looking GTOX, but yeah I'm definitly after bolt on, I really don't want to alter the body as it's so damn good stock, definitly something that goes the entire way around the wheel arch and blends with the(a?) lower front bar.

[Nationalmilkman]

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb427/nationalmilkman/a3d59642.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb427/nationalmilkman/6cc83d62.jpg

I know these aren't 3s but they look good too.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb427/nationalmilkman/1a2618f0.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb427/nationalmilkman/cbbd8b8d.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb427/nationalmilkman/bfbd0973.jpg

[ViperZ]

After seeing that Stealth that GTOX posted it almost makes me want to play around with my fenders and flare them out

[jbuhrman]

The Pitroad M is front fender replacements but rear quater panel overlays... which you could rivet on, but then need to mold the lines to blend in fully.

Oh and they cost around $1000 if I recall correctly.

[MR2]

I cannot find pictures of the Pitroad M bolt on flares?

[jbuhrman]

I cannot find pictures of the Pitroad M bolt on flares?

They are not bolt on flares, they are replacement fenders just like Cianci the front is remove and install. The rear is needing to be molded on, body shop type of shit.

[MR2]

oh :| toooo much effort:p someone needs to photoshop some flares for us :p

[familyMAN]

One possible advantage of the bolt on flares like the maroon one above is that if you mount the flare low it may take up some of the hideous wheel gap we have on even lowered vehicles.

[familyMAN]

240Z flares may work...
The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: Fiberglass ZG Flare Kit, 70-78 Z (http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/7BSA02/50-1562)
Only $217 in fiberglass. Carbon fiber is $429 but I would imagine they would require some cutting to work on a 3S so I wouldn't risk spending the extra $$.

[MR2]

shop a crazy awesome guy on some local forums did

http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/flipv.jpg

now imagine it slighly lower, with the wheels slighly wider...I dunno :|

[IPD]

shop a crazy awesome guy on some local forums did

http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/flipv.jpg

now imagine it slighly lower, with the wheels slighly wider...I dunno :|

not a perfect match for the stock body lines, but i am loving how he integrated it into the skirts/bumpers.

[MR2]

yeah they stick out further than I need too. buuut it's food for thought

[IPD]

i need mine to stick out that far, i just also need them to flow with the fender lines.

[MR2]

well, make it happen and post the pictures :) would need to get a custom front and rear bar that match's the lines of the flares I guess

[CoreyB]

That looks better than I would of though. Really like the rear.

[i3igpete]

pretty sure that's a photoshop. look at the bumper line and look at the overfender line. one is sharp, the other is fuzzy.

[CoreyB]

pretty sure that's a photoshop. look at the bumper line and look at the overfender line. one is sharp, the other is fuzzy.

lol it is shopped. He said so.

[lawdogg]

Would look good though, if it was 5" closer to the ground. Good food for thought. I'm on the fence about whether to pull or cut & run flares. I need to do one or the other, lol.

[Nationalmilkman]

Lawdogg - if you cut and then went with bolt on flares then you could drop the car to the max and go wider tires. I know I've seen some road course racers set their cars up for 5" of ground clearance.

[i3igpete]

cutting 3" of sheet metal away from the REAR quarter panel would scare the PISS out of me :eek4:

[IPD]

ryan, if you wanted your car to sit lower, you need a car with open wheels. might i suggest a caterham?

[MR2]

meh, just cut the metal :p if it means I can fit 18x11 I'll take it :p

[GTOJOE]

ryan, if you wanted your car to sit lower, you need a car with open wheels. might i suggest a caterham?

Maybe one of these. I saw one on the raod the other day then saw the same car again the next day 200kms away from where I saw it the day before :lol:

Elfin MS8 - Australian built with a 5.7L Chev V8
http://www.elfin.com.au/elfin/2008/multimedia/content/images/clubman/clubman_1_full.jpg



Mike why do you want flares? you still trying to go wider than 10"

[MR2]

yep :) I figure why not! :p

[IPD]

well if you find good looking, LIGHTWEIGHT rims in 18x11 or 19x11--AND they fit over 2g stock tt brakes without spacers....let me know.

[MR2]

so you don't like the ones I linked at the start of the thread?

oh wait that was a differnet thread...here you go

http://www.forgestar.com/v2/wheels.php

I like either the CF5 or th F14...

[Permanent grin]

Or Volk TE37SL's (http://www.rayswheelsusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=98950)

André

[MR2]

OHHH MY GOD the price :p

the forgestar's can be had for 1k flat. for all 4 :p

[IPD]

so you don't like the ones I linked at the start of the thread?

oh wait that was a differnet thread...here you go

Forgestar Wheels Custom Rotary Forged Flow Formed Concave Performance Wheels (http://www.forgestar.com/v2/wheels.php)

I like either the CF5 or th F14...

1. both designs are too plain for my taste. i prefer either 5-spoke or (more preferably) 3-spoke.
2. there's no weights on there. te37's are a known quantity for weight. forgestar...good luck. i don't think i'm going to trust any 19x11 rims that sell for 1k for all 4 to be "lightweight". i could be mistaken, but i'll believe it when i see it. (i'd consider anything under 24 lbs acceptable).
3. i'd still need to see it on someone's car. i want VISUAL confirmation that xx offset works with stock 2g brakes (or larger, since i'll be eventually running d2 355's).

[MR2]

light weight = easy to break. let me know how the expensive wheels go though!

I sent those guys the brake template for my brakes and they said clearance would be fine :) so I'm happy!

they don't come in purple though.

[IPD]

light weight = easy to break. let me know how the expensive wheels go though!

I sent those guys the brake template for my brakes and they said clearance would be fine :) so I'm happy!

they don't come in purple though.

i don't need no damn purple wheels. :p

but i do have to correct you. lightweight != fragile/brittle. not all wheels are created equal. spin forged > cast. in many cases, a well-constructed spin-forged wheel of 19lbs will be more durable than a cast wheel of a similar design weighing 25lbs or more. the relationship has to do with quality of construction--NOT weight of the wheel.

i trust rays/volk. seeing as how you're a future customer of forgestar, and you literally don't give 2 shits about weight or construction methods...i think i'll pass. if they work for you, great. i'm a little bit more picky. i need to have more facts first.

[MR2]

so I literally don't give 2 shits do I?

as I see it, no matter how you make/construct them, they are still pretty much the same material & the less material you have the lesser chance you have of them absorbing a big bump/hole...which is why the stock wheels are probably cheap shit build method but so big and heavy that you rarely hear of anyong breaking one.

I'd not agree with != I'd go with does not always equal.

[IPD]

so I litterally don't give 2 shits do I?

nope. but post up when you get them. having heard ZERO reviews on this brand, i'm interested. oh, and post up some weights. i'd like to know if my suspicions are unfounded or not. if these weight the same as mustang replicas...that's way too heavy.

[MR2]

since I have enough other problems I'm dealing with purchasing these is not likely to happen for around a year and a half, will let you know when I do though!! (assuming nothing else comes out reasonably priced that I like)

I have not looked at weights, since again...these are a year off, and god knows what will happen in that time :)

and hang on a second, if your so worried about quality why are you going D2 brakes?

when I get more serious about the 11"s I'll probably post a thread asking for people to post them up since when I did a search I had no luck finding anything 11" wide that was in our bolt pattern with a +40 offset, pretty litterally those were the only thing that came up...and since the design was not butt ugly(AFAIK) I went with it

[Permanent grin]

Guys

Try AGForged (http://www.agforged.ru/ru/catalog/sport/)

These guys will do whatever bolt pattern and offset you require as the wheels are built to order. BTW, if you are interested I have the e-mail address of the distributor in Poland. The guy's English isn't too bad, better than my Polish for sure. :lol:

André

[IPD]

Guys

Try AGForged (http://www.agforged.ru/ru/catalog/sport/)

These guys will do whatever bolt pattern and offset you require as the wheels are built to order. BTW, if you are interested I have the e-mail address of the distributor in Poland. The guy's English isn't too bad, better than my Polish for sure. :lol:

André

can't read any of that. english version doesn't show crap. doesn't show available widths. doesn't show wheel weights. doesn't show caliper clearance. doesn't explain what process they use for creating them (drop forged, spin forged, etc).

[Permanent grin]

Sorry I should have said load up the Russian version and let Google translate it as there is more info on the Russian version. They don't quote calliper clearance as they tend to send you a spreadsheet that asks for things like calliper measurements. As for weight, I know the AG2 18x12 weighs 8.9 kg but the Polish guys will tell you the weights if you email them.

André

[MR2]

Oohhh Good info.

[IPD]

19.6 Lbs for 18x12" seems too good to be true.

[mb3000]

Can you top this? - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center (http://www.3si.org/forum/f41/can-you-top-520310/)

[IPD]

that's one reason i don't want rotas. no matter how good they look on ryan's car...i don't trust the build quality. too many stories floating around to be "coincidence".

[MR2]

See....too light :p

[IPD]

See....too light :p

if you think that p45's are even remotely close to the same quality of construction as t37's, i've got some oceanfront property in the great victoria desert that i'd like to sell you.

[mb3000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Armx02_R7Y0&feature=related

[MR2]

wow look at that robot, no wonder they are so expensive!

another reason I have for not buying crazy expensive wheels is they'd probably get stolen.

[IPD]

wow look at that robot, no wonder they are so expensive!

another reason I have for not buying crazy expensive wheels is they'd probably get stolen.

you need to move out of the projects. i've had volks on my car for 4 years without any issue on them getting stolen; and i've never once had lock lugs on it. fact is, most people don't have a socket to take them off. in fact, you can't get a socket for my lugs at any store in town--it's an ordered item. i ended up buying an oversize allen wrench for them. your average thug with a lug wrench is going to come up empty-handed. and if you're still paranoid, gorilla-lugs will save the day.

p.s.
the robot isn't what makes them expensive. being an industry pioneer and having the best fabrication in the business (imho) is what makes them expensive. my only complaint would be that i wish rays would offer different designs of centers for their 2-piece wheels. the GT-C's, for instance, have a forged rim & a cast center. it's incredibly durable, although not quite as lightweight as a 1-piece forged wheel (ala t37's). since the 2-piece is "bolted" together along the inside edge of the rim, it wouldn't be overly complex to design alternate spoke designs to also fit the same outer rim.

someday, i'd like to test my theory by buying a set of 3-spoke 2-piece volk rims & "splicing" them into the rims i currently have.

[Permanent grin]

Today 05:07 AMinperfectdarkness
19.6 Lbs for 18x12" seems too good to be true.


Kind of like their AG1 Time Attack 17x9 that weighs a mere 13.2 lbs!! This is well documented if you do a quick Google for wheel weights agforged.

André

[IPD]

i'm not doubting the weight so much as i'm doubting the durability. weights that much less than ray's make me start batting an eye. the numbers i could find for te37's at 19x11 are 22lbs. that would make the ag forged 2.5 Lbs less than the volks.

[Permanent grin]

Well judging from this, they seem pretty damned strong to me. BTW, this is from an EVO during a rally stage! Harder than we would ever treat our wheels I think.

http://www.agforged.ru/images/gallery/SPORT/8252_small.jpg

The image came out quite small so here (http://www.agforged.ru/images/gallery/SPORT/8252.jpg)is the link.

André

[Permanent grin]

BTW, that is the AG2 Time Attack that I mentioned before.

André

[MR2]

http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/wip1f.jpg
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/picture1zzp.png
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/picture2jco.png

I've taken a liking to the bumper above.

[IPD]

the veilside? i guess if that's your thing. at least it's better than bomex.

[mb7050]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

98 front > failside

[IPD]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

98 front > failside

precisely.

[MR2]

I don't need air in the center front, I need it in the sides, this bumper appears to have move space available to push air into the SMIC's

[IPD]

negative. the 3g OEM bumpers are great for SMICS. the 97-98 side inlets are SUBSTANTIALLY wider than the 94-96 models, and the 99's are slightly larger still.

veilside looks big on width, but not in height.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3746/581/21862790005_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3746/581/21862790004_large.jpg

you don't want something stock-sized & adequate. i'd be surprised if the veilside openings were any larger than the 94-96's.

[MR2]

I'm actually planning on slicking it pretty much in half and dropping it a bit (widening all the inlets) probably going to cut out some of the plastic on the innner side of SMIC holes...

anyone want to measure up the hole sizes? see what's best? I like this one as it seems to have the widest sides

[IPD]

http://www.cianciusa.com/images/product_pictures/3s_bodykit_1gnovara.jpg

this is wide sides.

[MR2]

yeah, it should end up something like that...but narrower center gap :) we have a few of the Vielside fronts already on cars in Australia so I might see if I can buy one of them off one of the guys here to butcher.

[mb7050]

testin testin
http://carview-img04.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/357217/p2.jpg
http://carview-img04.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/624957/p1.jpg
http://images02.olx.com/ui/1/01/70/12370170_1.jpg
http://www.geocities.jp/nfjyd638/off/mksk57/book1331.jpg
http://www.auto-style.jp/item_img/VLS50111110002.jpg
http://www.gtolife.net/gto/2004-saitama-off/s-off-n10.jpg
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQdrMsUcXGN8f65hYQIk-9UWvjm2m88rCZry4BHkdU01gae-cCKg
http://ukyoandsmocat.com/mitsi/mitsi01.jpg
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/1406-1995-Mitsubishi-3000GT.jpg

[mb7050]

veilside front could build some pressure for the sidemounts unlike any oem design
pressure build up area is big
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4649/fdgddffgffdggdfg.jpg

[MR2]

yes Thankyou :D

it's odd, I've hated that front for 4-5 years...but now I'm contemplating what I can do with it... :p

especially if you chop it and fill to make it deeper (you know) since my car is almost stock height I have lots of space to lower it.

[MR2]

ok wow I make it look scary from a distance :p

http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/book1331.jpg
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/book1331Mod.jpg

I don't quite know how to un-ugly it...buuuut that's more or less tha plan ;) (and with less dead space between the SMIC and the radiator intake.

[MR2]

http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/forgestarcf5.jpg
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/forgestarcf5gold.jpg
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/forgestarf14gold.jpg

My Fav
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/forgestarf14silver.jpg

still working on what a good matching rear wing would be like.

[Runner up]

Duckbill plus 99 sails would look amazing, IMO.

[GTOJOE]

Anything but the green :p

[MR2]

Some wing testing..
SCE GT Wing:
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/forgestarf14silvergtspo.jpg
Gen III Combat:
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/forgestarf14silvercomba.jpg

Combat Blacked out...WOW!:

http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/murderedoutgto.jpg

[GTOX]

Nice photoshop skills Mick. I hate my hoop atm moment and may go 99 wing or look for something aftermarket (ricer gt wing)

The SCE wing sits fairly high, looks very agressive.

[MR2]

oh that's not my work, on a local forum there is a crazy awesome photoshopper whom I'm paying him to adjust it and see how it looks.

I really want the SCE wing as it actually does something :| the gen 3 looks so perfect though!!

[NOMIEZVR4]

looks like a vette almost with that wing and all..

[JasonY]

So just what are you planning on doing with this car that makes you need 6 ft of tire on the road and 15" brakes?

Jason

[MR2]

Beating up on unsuspecting skylines Rotaries & Bikes? I don't really know...at the moment most of this is just for fun

[IPD]

So just what are you planning on doing with this car that makes you need 6 ft of tire on the road and 15" brakes?

Jason

you can NEVER have too much tire. :p

[Erron Spalsbury]

Some wing testing..
SCE GT Wing:
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Flares/forgestarf14silvergtspo.jpg


Close~ish...

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8239/220111.jpg

Which fenders match the arcs? Rx7's do? Anyone have a link to that? I have some 335's I'd love to wedge under there. :w00t:

[MR2]

The whole photoshop job was based off flares on a Subaru WRX :)

to exactly match our fenders you'd need something custom I would expect.

[IPD]

you'd need to get whatever supercar has.

[MR2]

ahhh no, no offence to philip but what he's running is just not good enough.


besides it's not purple.

[IPD]

ahhh no, no offence to philip but what he's running is just not good enough.
besides it's not purple.
:lmao: