Any knife/sword collectors?

[Hard AttacK]

I have a decent sized knife collection.

I made this thread because I found this old sword stuffed in my great grandmas closet when she died. The only thing I can make out on it is that it says MADE IN INDIA. I can get pics, but I figured this was a pretty big longshot. :p

[Fletch]

Post the pictures... I am a knife and sword enthusiast. Love the blade, sometimes more than my rifles and pistols.

[Hard AttacK]

Sorry my camera/room lighting blows. :(

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/MommySaisImPro/sword001.jpg
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[3000crazy]

I'm pretty into knives. I've got a couple I'm lookin for as well... anyone ever heard of a "jaguar" brand knife?

[GTOX]

Some sort of Indian Cavalry trooper's sword?

Does it have the maker's name stamped on it, such as Wilkinson or Mole?

[Hard AttacK]

I cant find ANYTNING on it. :( Where would it be?

[Bob]

I'm pretty into knives. I've got a couple I'm lookin for as well... anyone ever heard of a "jaguar" brand knife?

I have seen that etch on a couple Italian made automatic knives. Here is an Italian Camper with that etch.

[EZnTn]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/EZnTn/4e67erw56ew56.jpg
A good way to store 'em

[bluemax_1]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/EZnTn/4e67erw56ew56.jpg
A good way to store 'em

LOL, that's definitely the funniest, most creative knife block I've seen.


Hard Attack,
perhaps you could take some better pics of the sword because I don't think the lighting exposure could really get much worse than it is in your shots. Try taking some pics in the daytime and I'll see if I can tell if it's worth anything decent.


I've been an edged weapon afficionado ever since I was a kid. Began collecting knives then and swords later and learning more along the way (as well as how to use them). Current collection is a little sparse. I have a Paul Chen Ch'ing Tai Chi sword, a Fred Chen Shuang Shao Chien and a traditional Japanese construction folded, forged and tempered cane sword (unfortunately, not authentic).

I tend to only collect usable swords as opposed to SLO's i.e Sword Like Objects, eg. the wallhangers you see in the 'Oriental' stores. SLO's LOOK like swords but aren't. They're made for decoration, not to be used. Attempting to actually use one is dangerous. Any 'sword' stamped 'Stainless Steel" can be classified an SLO. Real swords are made of carbon steel and tempered for a medium between edge retention and strength (resilience to impact). The chrome content required to make steel 'stainless' renders it too brittle for a proper sword.

The wallhangers and SLO's are made of Stainless Steel for 2 reasons:
1) They aren't meant to ever be used
2) Stainless Steel requires hardly any care to prevent rust. Real swords made from carbon steel ALL require periodic care to prevent corrosion and rust even if they are never used.

Reason NUMBER 1 to never try to use a Stainless Steel SLO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2EQWCpnIR8
See what I meant about SS being brittle?

In addition, many SLO's use stub or rat tail tangs to attach the blades to the hilt/handles, i.e they don't have real tangs meant to hold the blade in the hilt/handle under the impact of a real sword cut. The blade may not break but the stub tang may break (and some of them aren't even anchored, only glued in the handle). Sure you might get lucky and take a few swings without the sword breaking or flying off the hilt, but to use one for anything more than a decoration is like playing Russian roulette with a loaded pistol, it's a matter of when, not if.

Tameshigiri (Japanese sword cutting practiced on bundles of reeds or rolled tatami) on the other hand can be safe and enjoyable with the proper instruction (and of course, a real sword). The truth though, is that even authentic Japanese swords are not indestructible. I've seen authentically made (and yes, even authentic historic swords) bent and even broken with sword cuts, performed on mere rolled tatami (straw) mats, with poor technique. Makes it laughable when you watch the flailing antics of Hollywood actors.


Max

[Ghey]

Busse Combat DSSF
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/turbotension/IMG_3570.jpg
Emerson CQC11, Benchmade Lum Tanto and Rift
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/turbotension/IMG_2908.jpg
Spyderco Gayle Bradley and Native 4
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/turbotension/IMG_3158.jpg

[Austin@STM]

Seems like the right thread to ask in. Anyone know what this is for, or how it works?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs685.snc4/62502_1607094945556_1481643354_31587768_4055993_n. jpg

It looks like you could do something really stupid with it.

[Ghey]

Looks like a novelty piece based on some sort of grappling tool.

[bluemax_1]

Yep, it's just a novelty display piece made by Master Cutlery IIRC. It's made to look cool, not to actually be used for anything.


Max

[i3igpete]

i have a tactical tomahawk that i keep in my car. never know when you're gonna need it.

http://www.trueswords.com/images/prod/c/sog_fusion_tomahawk_trueswords_540.jpg

[jba3]

LOL, I have a ton. Armor, too.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/armor/P1010002.jpg

I've got 3 more suits, a custom 16th century suit being made that should be done by mid-Jan 2011, I've got a repro samurai armor, and some generic plate armor from when I used to do heavy weapons fighting in my pre-car days.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/swords/P1010039.jpg
Misc european
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/swords/P1010040.jpg
Misc european
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/swords/P1010041.jpg
Daisho sets and the Sword of Onimusha (PS game)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/swords/P1010043.jpg
Japanese swords
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/swords/P1010044.jpg
WV security system; full tang, carbon steel, razor sharp, and seen action in actual cutting.

The pics are a bit old, I've bought 7 or 8 more since these were taken.
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Your pic looks like a standard cavalry style saber. The tip is interesting, with the double-edge. That would be used for thrusting, while the front blade used for slashing from horseback (hence the curvature).

Not sure about authenticity, my rough guess would be that it is functional due to the nut on the bottom; looks like it is threaded to the blade through the pommel. Decorative swords will just go halfway (or less) into the handle, and are quite deadly - when the blade flies out of the handle. Very hard to see in the pics, but I don't see any nicks or signs of contact, so it probably wasn't used, or was very lightly used. The blade will get tiny bits of damage and markings from contact with other blades, metal buttons, bones, etc, when it's used.

Hope that helps.

[Ghey]

I can't tell, is the tip double sharpened or is that a false edge on the back side?

[Bob]

Seems like the right thread to ask in. Anyone know what this is for, or how it works?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs685.snc4/62502_1607094945556_1481643354_31587768_4055993_n. jpg



It looks like you could do something really stupid with it.

Made by Master Cutlery. It falls under "Fantasy Knives". Comes with a spider web shaped magnetic base and sells for $48. Designed to be held by the handle on top, and yes..... you could most likely do some real damage with it! They also make one that resembles a scorpion.

[Austin@STM]

do the blades move with the handle? or are they in a fixed position?

[Bob]

do the blades move with the handle? or are they in a fixed position?

Never physically seen one, but I'm fairly certain the blades are fixed. The descriptions I've read on these don't say anything about the blades moving.

[Ghey]

I finally have this how I want it. It took me about an hour with DMT diafolds to get the edge how it should be from the factory.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/turbotension/Knives/IMG_3707.jpg
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[onebadmollafolla]

Love knives. My favorite is my Cold Steel Ti Lite Titanium, though it did almost take my life. :sad: Bastard is crazy sharp. Just a few inches to the side and I wouldn't be typing this message.


See below:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/SL3000gt/Cut.jpg

[GTOX]

I remember when you posted this on the other forum.

That would have left a nice scar i'm sure.

[Ghey]

Cold Steel and Spyderco send their knives out insanely sharp. I like Benchmade's looks and ergos on many of their knives, but the knives I've bought have come somewhat duller than I'd like.

[onebadmollafolla]

I remember when you posted this on the other forum.

That would have left a nice scar i'm sure.

It's been two years since that happened. If you life up my shorts to where the cut was, you can still easily see the scar from across a large room.

[Ghey]

This is sharper than a razor. It literally brushes arm hair off...
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/turbotension/Knives/IMG_3884.jpg

More INFI
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/turbotension/Knives/IMG_3882-1.jpg

[YoshiBishi]

How did you get cut exactly?

[onebadmollafolla]

How did you get cut exactly?

Decided it would be a good idea to drink some vodka and play with my new TiLite. You can deploy it like a switch blade by flicking the notch on any surface. Well, I was sitting at my computer and went to go flip it open like a switch on my leg but accidentally hit my arm first that was laying across on my desk where it then deployed and then ran across my leg cutting through my shorts. Bad idea. I wouldn't recommend it.

Here is a video of the knife I was using:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQUZ4YAw8Dw

[akotten]

I've ordered a Benchmade Presidio 523SBK that I'm waiting to arrive. Hoping to use it as a nice EDC.

[YoshiBishi]

Cold Steels are bad ass. I am thinking about buying this.. but after seeing your leg, I may just buy a wooden stick instead.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3nAuowwqhI

[green-lantern]

Best knife I have ever owned. Yes, it's a switchblade. I have had two of them the first one didn't have the button, you just pushed the top pad. You would never know it was one. I lost it then got the other one at BRG. Years later I had some guys working under my house and found it. It was sort of screwed up but had sentimental value so I kept it. It must of fell out of my pocket when I was under the house before.

http://www.bladehq.com/imgs/side-opening-automatics/smith-wesson-auto/smith-wesson-sw5000.jpg

[jba3]

Love knives. My favorite is my Cold Steel Ti Lite Titanium, though it did almost take my life. :sad: Bastard is crazy sharp. Just a few inches to the side and I wouldn't be typing this message.

Holy popsicles! I've heard of how insanely sharp the Cold Steel stuff is, but wow. They're "overbuilt" in that they are generally thicker and heavier than a comparable "real" sword of the type, but they perform VERY well. I'd be intimidated to have one in the house, and I was busy slicing some tatami mats at a cutting class with a quite sharp sword this past weekend!

[onebadmollafolla]

Holy popsicles! I've heard of how insanely sharp the Cold Steel stuff is, but wow. They're "overbuilt" in that they are generally thicker and heavier than a comparable "real" sword of the type, but they perform VERY well. I'd be intimidated to have one in the house, and I was busy slicing some tatami mats at a cutting class with a quite sharp sword this past weekend!

You're cot damn right it is imitating having it in the house. I have it sitting on my computer desk and that's where it rests. I use it next to never. Truth be told, I can't stand the thought of it anymore. After that incident I would rather deal with a fully automatic assault rifle than deal with my Ti Lite. I absolutely hate the site of it, but refuse to get rid of it.

[bluemax_1]

Cold Steel knives/swords do come sharp from the factory, which is great, but they aren't super-duper-cut-you-if-you-look-at-it-wrong sharp. It's all about knowing what you're doing with a sharp object. I've always been a fan/collector of edged objects and tend to keep them ALL razor sharp. IMO, if they aren't shaving sharp, then they're pointless. The only knife I own that I shouldn't be able to shave with is the butter knife. Have I nicked/cut myself with my own knives/swords? Yep, but not too badly because I respect how sharp they are and don't generally put myself in a position where I could seriously hurt myself with one.

That said, the one that's 'bitten' me the most often is the Balisong. An edged weapon is not a toy, and should be treated with respect, but the Balisong tends to blur those lines. Yep, I've cut myself while playing with it. Cut myself while learning to flip one, and cut myself worse when I was good at flipping one. I got complacent because I was so used to flipping it by then that I wasn't really paying attention. One short lapse and it sliced 3 fingers (1 to the bone), but as I've said, with the big knives/swords, I never put myself in a position where I could slice something serious.

Another interesting thing I've noticed: Folks who aren't used to razor sharp knives are the ones who are the most dangerous to themselves and others (unintentionally). People who only use razor sharp knives have a healthy respect for them and learn proper handling to avoid injuring themselves. Folks who are used to blunt/dull knives do ridiculous things with them that would put them in the hospital with really sharp knives. One of my ex-gf's cut herself with my kitchen knives all the time. She even cut one of my friends with one of my kitchen knives, just 'playing' around with it. I remember his immediate response as he grabbed his shoulder (where she cut him). He said, "Are you NUTS? Don't you know by now that all his knives are razor sharp?" as she apologized profusely, claiming that she hadn't really intended to cut him.

One of the things a Japanese roommate of mine pointed out was that slightly dull kitchen knives are far more dangerous overall than really sharp ones. The way he put it makes absolute sense. When you have a very sharp knife, the knife does the cutting with minimal force. It slices easily, and because it is so sharp, you learn proper knife handling so you don't hurt yourself. With dull knives, you need to use more force to cut anything, and the added force exerted on the knife makes it more dangerous if the knife slips. As mentioned, folks who are used to duller knives also tend to be less careful with them and they never learn proper knife handling to avoid the edge. I noticed this when I used to go camping. The number of people who cut towards themselves with knives (where a slip would slash themselves open) is ridiculous, especially when cutting wood, where even with the sharpest knife, you need to exert a decent amount of force to cut.


Max

[Ghey]

A very well built tourist grade Khukuri
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/turbotension/Knives/IMG_4026.jpg