View Full Version : My DR1400 project started today
Permanent grin
04-04-2011, 10:14 PM
Well guys, the project actually began today!
There have been a few changes (minor) to the list following the pre-project meeting between Ben, Mark Shead and me.
As a high level summary, it was agreed that in order to get the car ready for TOTB we would strip the car back to bare metal and do the absolute minimum to get it running for the event. We would look to make it back into a dd road car afterwards when we weren't under such time pressure.
In short, the car will be losing ABS, AWS, AC (both of which I wanted to keep), all ECU's that aren't essential, its looms, everything off the bulkhead except the wiper motor and brake system..........you get the idea!
The car will have a bespoke loom and a bespoke engine loom made by Rod Tarry of MA Developments to replace the existing wiring.
To remove the ABS we are even removing the old front to back brake lines that run between the front and rear subframes.
There is an outline 7 stage project plan detailing the work being done to help us to keep on top of what needs to happen, by when, by whom and what parts needs to be on site, by when and who is supplying them.
BTW Ben thinks I'm nuts!
André
FeaRpb
04-04-2011, 11:24 PM
I love love love it. I want to see every second of this build.
Stealth-TT
04-04-2011, 11:27 PM
Definitely in for watching this develop
-Logan
terrets
04-05-2011, 12:23 AM
I think your nuts too :D. Wicked awesome. You going to be driving it??
CoopKill
04-05-2011, 02:13 AM
Your gonna need a five point harness for your nut sack!
This will be sick for sure.
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Tapatalk Bitches! :transform:
Permanent grin
04-05-2011, 03:23 AM
I sure am Terrets
André
GTOJOE
04-05-2011, 09:55 AM
how big a dr1400 compared to 9b and dr-750?
Permanent grin
04-05-2011, 10:13 AM
http://www.dynamicracing.com/mw/images/4/45/DSC00416.JPG
http://www.dynamicracing.com/mw/images/d/dd/DSC00418.JPG
André
terrets
04-05-2011, 02:45 PM
I sure am Terrets
André
Gorgeous. Ohh I can not wait for pictures and videos.
skater334
04-05-2011, 03:10 PM
DR1400's? Dynamic's website only shows the DR1300's. When did these come out?
Permanent grin
04-05-2011, 03:14 PM
They are the billet DR1300 DBB's but due to their extra HP potential, Matt renamed them to DR1400DBB's. He hasn't updated the website yet but I believe mine (pictured) are the 1st ever set and these arrived at DR around 25th January.
André
Permanent grin
04-05-2011, 04:01 PM
Here is the 1st 3 weeks work schedule!
Week Job
1 Remove front bumper
1 Remove FMIC
1 remove propshaft
1 remove transfer box
1 Remove Front Driveshafts and refit for rolling shell
1 remove gearbox
1 send gearbox to Elite
1 Remove engine
1 Remove PRM engine damper
1 remove Cdi
1 Remove PU engine mounts
1 remove turbos
1 remove inner wheel arches?
2 Remove Rear Bumper
2 Remove Seats
2 Remove carpets
2 Remove EDFC Wiring
2 Remove Centre Console
2 Remove Head lining
2 Remove all interior Trims
2 Remove ABS, ECS, Cruise ECU's etc
2 Remove Air con Box and pipe work
2 Remove Heater Box
2 Remove dash, Clocks Etc
2 Remove Seat belts
2 Remove main and anciallry looms
2 Remove Fuel Tank
2 Fit Double Pump Bracket and Pumps
2 Remove All other Wiring
2 Remove Shifter/Cables
2 remove all relay and fuse boxes
3 Remove Front Sub Frame and refit
3 Remove Rear Sub Frame and refit
3 Remove ABS Pump, wiring and pipes
3 Fit MR Brake Lines and Compensator Valve
3 Perform Rear steer delete
3 Remove Rear Diff and refit
3 Plug rear diff pump hole
3 Remove rear steer comand lines
3 Remove rear steer supply Lines
3 Fit MR Power Steer Reservoir
3 Fit Front rack blanking plugs
3 Remove Front to rear fuel Lines
André :eek5::eek4:
AdamVR4
04-05-2011, 06:04 PM
I voted for all 3 ;)
Good luck. This thread is worthless without pics ;)
Permanent grin
04-05-2011, 06:09 PM
Good luck. This thread is worthless without pics
I'll try to get as many taken as possible, but bear in mind I am over 30 miles away from my car.
André
ViperZ
04-09-2011, 06:05 PM
I can't wait to see this project finished!
subscribed
i still think you're off your rocker.
Permanent grin
05-13-2011, 04:44 PM
Well, we have had a little bit of time slippage to the project mainly due to a delay in the roll cage arriving on time. In the end, the guy I bought it from saved the day by getting it freight shipped from his work and without his help, we would be even further behind now.
The car is pretty much totally stripped and the cage has been loosely fitted but we need to weld a plate on underneath the drivers foot well and underseal.
So the jobs for next week are:
weld in plate
final fitting of roll cage
fit dash
relocate pillar mounted gauges
relocate defi link meter
relocate EDFC
Strip the heads and send off for measuring
refit centre console
Strip stroker short block and reassemble with new clutch
Build new main loom
Although there was a month of slack built into the project, we need to make up the couple of weeks we have lost to preserve that 1 month buffer for the unforeseen stuff.
This is where we are parts wise.
Parts required got? ordered?
Phase 1
Dual Pump Hanger y y
front to back brake lines n y
fuel pump y y
300m driveshafts y y
Phase 2
roll cage y y
mk1 dash y y
collars for roll cage n n
AIM MXL y y
Fuel return line y y
Phase 3
Stroker block y y
DR1400 kit y y
Phase 4
Billet oil gears y y
Lifters n n
Phase 5
Carbonetic clutch y y
90mm plenum y y
gearbox y y
solid mounts y y
rad fans y y
spray bar n y
fmic y y
2nd oil cooler n n
90mm throttle body y y
twin intake y y
water meth tank n n
Phase 6
afr gauge n y
fit Racelogic Vbox n y
Phase 7
transfer box y y
shifter kit n y
seats y y
seat subframes y y
harnesses y y
18x10.5 wheels n y
17x9 wheels n y
R888 315/30/18 tyres y y
MT ET Street tyres n y
splitter n y
Sorry about the table alignment
André
FeaRpb
05-13-2011, 04:50 PM
Updates woohoo!!!!!!!!
STLVR4
05-13-2011, 06:02 PM
I want to see the finished product!
Zaroth
05-13-2011, 07:21 PM
:love3:
I wish I could forget this thread existed and rediscover it when it was finished. :Shovel:
Permanent grin
05-13-2011, 08:09 PM
I wish I could forget this thread existed and rediscover it when it was finished.
If you find this frustrating, try planning it in your head for 2 years before pressing the go button! LOL!
André
vr3.9
05-13-2011, 08:34 PM
If you find this frustrating, try planning it in your head for 2 years before pressing the go button! LOL!
André
I rather enjoy that part of the build. It doesn't cost a thing and the car is absolutely incredible every night when I lay my head down on that pillow.
Permanent grin
05-13-2011, 08:37 PM
True, but it never even comes close to when the build is complete and you nail it for the 1st time. You know the point when you think 'holy crap!'. Lol
André
Zaroth
05-13-2011, 08:58 PM
If you find this frustrating, try planning it in your head for 2 years before pressing the go button! LOL!
André
I can only imagine, man. If you want you can spot me some cash and I can share the experience with you :biggrin:
Permanent grin
05-14-2011, 04:58 AM
:rolleyes3::lol7:
Do you not think this is soaking up enough cash? Jeez, the import duties on the stuff from DR came to like $8000!
André
Permanent grin
05-14-2011, 07:23 AM
These are the new wheels and tyres I have just ordered. The Volks will be my daily driver wheels fitted with Toyo R888 315/30/18 tyres and the Buddy Clubs are 17 x 9 ET +35 and will be my drag wheels fitted with Mickey Thompson ET Street 26/11.5/17 tyres.
Rays Volks TE37SL 18 x 10.5 ET +15
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/TE37SL-wheel50percent.jpg
Buddy Club P1 SF 17 x 9 ET +35
Don't worry, they will be 5x114.3!
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/BuddyClubP1SFwheel.jpg
i don't know what this guy does for a living...but i need to get in on it. those volks are like $800 each. :eek:
Permanent grin
05-14-2011, 09:05 AM
i don't know what this guy does for a living...but i need to get in on it. those volks are like $800 each. Nearer $950 over here.
As little as possible! :lol:
I have my own company that sells IT to Corporate customers and the bonus is, I work from home doing it.
André
FeaRpb
05-14-2011, 10:34 AM
I will work from home, hook me up with a job =) =P
92EuroDiamante
05-16-2011, 03:09 AM
:rolleyes3::lol7:
Do you not think this is soaking up enough cash? Jeez, the import duties on the stuff from DR came to like $8000!
André
I hear you man. I had a 4 piece body kit sent from australia and the marine insurance cost nearly as much as a honda body kit off ebay.
my favorite part was the selling point on it was pirates!
cant wait to see the end results.
Permanent grin
05-18-2011, 05:21 PM
A slight amendment to my drag wheels set up
Instead of the Buddy Clubs I have ordered Rays Volks CE28N 10 spoke in bronze 17 x 9 ET +35 which will still be fitted with Mickey Thompson ET Street 26/11.5/17 tyres.
http://www.enjukuracing.com/images/CE28N.jpg
I will still also be getting the TE37SL's for my road wheels too.
André
FeaRpb
05-18-2011, 05:42 PM
Mmmmm sexy, what is the weight of those?
Permanent grin
05-18-2011, 05:59 PM
16.3 lbs in a 17x9 et35 bronze. Bronze is the lightest as all other colours are put o er the top of the default bronze colour thus adding weight.
André
my923ksl
05-18-2011, 11:10 PM
andre glad to see it's all working out for you
Turbo Beast
05-19-2011, 10:30 AM
Pics or it didnt happen
Permanent grin
05-25-2011, 05:12 PM
Well, as I've been asked quite a few times to put up some pictures of the build so far, here goes. (warning - very picture heavy)
Firstly, how the car stands now - gutted but with the addition of a roll cage, mk1 dash, dual pump hanger, abs deleted and rear steering deleted.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0112.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0113.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0114.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0115.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0116.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0117.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0118.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0119.jpg
Permanent grin
05-25-2011, 05:13 PM
Now for some of the parts!
Check these tyres out!
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0120.jpg
and stood next to my SKINNY 255's!
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0144.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0145.jpg
Billet end case and Kormex rebuilt 6 speed gearbox
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0123.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0126.jpg
Solid mounts
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0129.jpg
Carbonetic triple plate clutch
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0130.jpg
AIM MXL Strada digital dash
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0131.jpg
Permanent grin
05-25-2011, 05:15 PM
DR1400
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0135.jpg
Mark Williams 300M rear driveshafts
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0136.jpg
90mm Throttle body and plenum
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0137.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0138.jpg
Tial Wastegate
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0139.jpg
Induction and intercooling
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0140.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0142.jpg
Billet oil pump gears
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0141.jpg
mb7050
05-25-2011, 05:27 PM
I love it. I hope it works out well for you. very tempted to see the end result.
GTOJOE
05-25-2011, 07:56 PM
Andre your nuts man...... I love it.
Broomfield Racing
05-25-2011, 09:31 PM
http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OKQih2CCqQM/Tb80z6qeICI/AAAAAAAABIs/e1o2fUxA0XQ/s320/jaw-drop.jpg&sa=X&ei=2J7dTbvRF8bY0QHn3qHQDw&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHL5ffJLfOmhVH5_mbVeDdOz0E1dA
all that $$$....and a KNOCKOFF pitroad-m hood? piker, please!
familyMAN
05-25-2011, 11:15 PM
Holy hell those tires are wide! What's the plan with the fenders to get those to fit?
Permanent grin
05-26-2011, 03:48 AM
I originally wanted the Seibon hood over the prm as I liked the idea of cold air blowing down on the rear turbo.
The plan with getting the tyres to fit is to run them on 18x10.5 et+15 which should only move the wheel about 1mm and the tyre about 9mm closer to the suspension etc. The inner arches are gone and the wheel arches are going to be rolled out to cover the 71mm that the tyres will stick out.
André
Permanent grin
09-23-2011, 06:20 AM
Well, it has been a long time since there has been much to update, however, here are some of the main points.
new fuel lines are in
custom main loom (made from scratch) is all but complete
ABS deleted
Rear steering deleted
FMIC in place
engine assembled
turbos fitted
new water meth tank fabricated for rear seat well.
We should get to see the engine fitted this week with any luck! :D
Almost on the home straight now. Here's a little teaser of what the tiny turbos with their headers look like fitted. To give you a clue of how big the turbos are, the rear rocker cover cannot be removed with the engine in the car as the rear turbo needs to be removed! :eek4:
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/enginewithturboson.jpg
André
92RT-TT
09-23-2011, 12:21 PM
Wow! What a project!
92RT-TT
09-23-2011, 12:24 PM
Also are you going to have to modify the firewall to fit that big of a turbo in the rear? I dont see how it could fit, that thing looks huge!
Permanent grin
09-23-2011, 12:26 PM
Could well have to! Ben's DR1200's measure about 7" off the valve cover at the rear and his scrape when lowering the engine in, these measure about 9"!
André
92RT-TT
09-23-2011, 12:31 PM
Wow, those are huge turbos, They kind of remind me of the Garrett GT37 that I sold for a diesel Cummins that made 1200 ft/lbs of torque lol
Permanent grin
09-23-2011, 12:39 PM
I'll be looking for 1000-1200 ish ft/lbs of torque from this! :lo5l:
André
AdamVR4
09-23-2011, 01:13 PM
To give you a clue of how big the turbos are, the rear rocker cover cannot be removed with the engine in the car as the rear turbo needs to be removed! :eek4:
That would be a deal breaker for me. I hope you never have a rocker pop off or a valve cover gasket leak.
Permanent grin
09-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Life is all one big line of compromises and this is just another one. Some are bigger than others though.
If you knew how much the guys at Eurospec do on my car, you'd know that it wouldn't be the end of the world lifting the engine a bit.
For example I still have the dog box that will need fitting at some point, ducting and shrouding are on the list too.
The guys there hate working on my car because its always something difficult or unique that I get them to do, in other words......painful jobs!
André
Permanent grin
09-26-2011, 08:06 AM
Apparently, these are a good investment Ben says.
http://www.et-performance.com/automotive/turbo_kit-Valves.jpg
ET-Performance & Racing Products - Automotive - "Turbo Kit" for ALL Auto Engines (http://www.et-performance.com/turbo.html)
Luckily, James had some in stock so they are winging their way to Eurospec.
André
Permanent grin
09-26-2011, 08:28 AM
Apparently they keep negative pressure in the sump, thus reducing / preventing any blow by...........so I'm told.
André
Apparently they keep negative pressure in the sump, thus reducing / preventing any blow by...........so I'm told.
André
the joke is in me being flabbergasted that someone doing a MASSIVE build like this hasn't ever heard of krank vents, or of what they do.
Permanent grin
09-26-2011, 08:33 AM
I had heard of them, but in all honesty, I'm no mechanic. Call me naive or ill informed but as I had a dual catch tank set up, I thought that would suffice.
André
J. Fast
09-26-2011, 10:03 AM
Are you keeping the dual catch tank? Why do you need a crank vent? I would vent the crankcase as much as possible with a buildlike that and run all four valve cover ports straight to the can with 1/2" ID hose and plug in the lower plenum riser.
Permanent grin
09-26-2011, 10:15 AM
Now you're going beyond my knowledge.
This is how the dual catch cans were rigged up before and I assume will be again, as well as running the Krank vents to maintain negative pressure in the sump.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/TOTBIX027.jpg
The only difference was I quickly swapped out the plastic piping for metal overbraided lines.
André
J. Fast
09-26-2011, 10:30 AM
Bring the drivers side ports back to the breather cans too. There's two more over there. The one you're using off of the velocity stack should be capped. You're just straight venting the crankcase. When you stuff a crapton of boost pressure in there you want as much open vent as possible or you'll blow the dipstick thru the hood.
Permanent grin
09-26-2011, 10:41 AM
:lo5l: That is our driver's side! But I know what you mean. I'll pass this to Ben but I'm sure he'll know this stuff anyway..
Thanks for the info though, I'm grateful for anything like that.
André
J. Fast
09-26-2011, 10:47 AM
Haha (good chukkle for the day), everything is on the same side of the car exept the seat!
mb7050
09-26-2011, 02:10 PM
Krank vents:
"the stock PCV valve meters the air that leaves the rocker cover. A problem might occur during very high boost where the stock PCV valve leaks air into the rocker cover, pressurizing the crankcase. The purpose of the new Krank Vent in this upper hose is to totally prevent air from flowing from the manifold into the rocker cover"its recommended to to leave the stock PCV valve in place.so basically just an extra protection, (the oem pcv valve is good for anything less than 16psi)
"Installing the larger Krank Vent with the flow direction away from the rocker cover guaranties that fresh, filtered air will not enter crankcase from the intake hose, and that the crankcase will always be under partial vacuum. The third alternative is to not install the larger Krank Vent. This would allow the PCV system to function as it was designed to, but would eliminate the main benefit that ET attributes to the Krank Vents, that is, a partial vacuum in the crankcase at all times."
note that during high boost situations, when blow-by gas volume is at its greatest the larger krank vent will cause some restriction !
Stealth 316 - ET Performance Karnk Vent Turbo Kit (http://www.stealth316.com/2-krankvents.htm)
mb7050
09-26-2011, 02:16 PM
Apparently they keep negative pressure in the sump, thus reducing / preventing any blow by...........so I'm told.
André
They will create negative pressure in the sump only under no boost(when there is vacuum in the intake), but when your boosting( when blow-by gas volume is at its greatest ) their nothing but restriction(except if you use more than 1 but still restriction vs an open hose) and extra safety over the oem pcv valve(this is what the smaller krank vent will provide)
mb7050
09-26-2011, 02:20 PM
I would vent the crankcase as much as possible with a buildlike that
this ! You would need to use 3 (or maybe even more) bigger ones to get the ventilation you need under high boost.
Permanent grin
10-07-2011, 08:15 PM
Some progress updates
The fuel lines are in
The engine is in
The clutch has been moddified and fitted
The gearbox is in all bar the engine / gearbox mounting bolt on the driver's side.
The MXL Strada digital dash has been mounted in the gauge cluster
Small battery has been located in rear seat well
Custom meth tank enclosure, meth injection pump mount fabricated
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/001.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/002.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/003.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/0042.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/010.jpg
Tomorrow, the Transfer case, carbon prop and rear drive shafts should get fitted, then it's on to customizing the exhaust, adapting the intercooler pipework, fit coolant system and meth injection etc.
André
Permanent grin
10-10-2011, 09:29 PM
Well, the gearbox and transfer box are on, drive shafts installed, the intercooler pipework has been modified and fitted and the exhaust modifications have begun. Coolant system is still to be fitted, collectors for the dual oil cooler system still to be fabricated, then hopefully onto electrics and meth injection system.
The old exhaust system was front 2.5" down pipe, flexi, 2.5" rear down pipe joining into 3.5" through pipe splitting out to 2 x 3" pipes, oval cans with 8" x 4" chrome oval tail pipes.
We are modifying this as follows. Replacing the 2.5" down pipes with 3", front and rear down pipes linked solidly (no flexi in between), flexi into 4" through pipe joined onto existing rear arrangement.
André
AdamVR4
10-11-2011, 11:40 AM
Is that dual oil coolers?
Permanent grin
10-11-2011, 11:48 AM
It is indeed. We are running -10AN single feed to a collector with equal length -8AN feeds to the coolers, -8AN returns to another collector then -10AN single return.
André
weberflorida
10-11-2011, 10:55 PM
Sounds awesome.
weberflorida
10-11-2011, 11:02 PM
Do you have a pic of the how the dash looks with the digital setup
J. Fast
10-12-2011, 12:32 AM
Is the front motor mount a temp for fitting everything?
Permanent grin
10-12-2011, 04:42 AM
Do you have a pic of the how the dash looks with the digital setup
Not yet, it is temporarily mounted through the stock cluster 'glass'. Next time I'm there I'll see if I can get a picture.
Is the front motor mount a temp for fitting everything?
No, that is the Maximal Performance solid mount.
André
Permanent grin
10-15-2011, 10:26 PM
No picture updates but the exhaust has now been modified to 2 x3" down pipes, 4" through pipe, 2 x 3" exit pipes.
The twin intake pipes needed minor modification to clear the brake master cylinder which is on the opposite side to that of a LHD car.
Modified the front subframe to create clearance around the rear o2 housing. Again, there is a recess in the subframe on a LHD car that is on the opposite side on a RHD car!
Intercooler pipework fitted
Gear linkage hooked up, EDFC wired in, BAP and fuel pumps wired in, Defi guages wired in, seats and subframes test fitted and rear bumper fitted.
Still a few bits to do, but we should be on the home straight now with a test fire up scheduled for Tuesday / Wednesday. ;)
André
green-lantern
10-15-2011, 10:53 PM
That's great man, it's one hell of a build! Please keep up the pics and make sure you get some vids when you run it.
Permanent grin
10-16-2011, 06:25 AM
We should have some vids of the day as there are about 20 of us going plus I have a Contour GPS camera with roll bar mount for driver's POV and the Contour GPS records speed, although I'm not sure if it will get a GPS fix through the moon roof yet.
André
No picture updates but the exhaust has now been modified to 2 x3" down pipes, 4" through pipe, 2 x 3" exit pipes.
The twin intake pipes needed minor modification to clear the brake master cylinder which is on the opposite side to that of a LHD car.
Modified the front subframe to create clearance around the rear o2 housing. Again, there is a recess in the subframe on a LHD car that is on the opposite side on a RHD car!
Intercooler pipework fitted
Gear linkage hooked up, EDFC wired in, BAP and fuel pumps wired in, Defi guages wired in, seats and subframes test fitted and rear bumper fitted.
Still a few bits to do, but we should be on the home straight now with a test fire up scheduled for Tuesday / Wednesday. ;)
André
in your opinion, would a single-turbo setup easier or harder on RHD because of the differences?
AudibleSilence
10-16-2011, 09:26 AM
Egads, a big build being done by a well off owner with class? Nevar! Way to go Andre, looks like she's going to fly.
Could well have to! Ben's DR1200's measure about 7" off the valve cover at the rear and his scrape when lowering the engine in, these measure about 9"!
André
Do me a favor and tell Ben that Mike Brown from the States says hello please :) I miss that sob, haven't talked to him in ages. :( Does he know you're coming for his crown?
Permanent grin
10-16-2011, 09:45 AM
in your opinion, would a single-turbo setup easier or harder on RHD because of the differences?
I have no idea whether4 it would be easier or more difficult. GTO Nemesis has done the conversion and I believe he talks to Ray a lot, perhaps Ray could clarify.
Do me a favor and tell Ben that Mike Brown from the States says hello please I miss that sob, haven't talked to him in ages.
No worries.
Does he know you're coming for his crown? He ought to, he's building it and is in possession of all the parts. :lo5l:
André
AudibleSilence
10-16-2011, 10:08 AM
He ought to, he's building it and is in possession of all the parts. :lo5l:
André
LuLz, that man can certainly build a car. I'd be concerned as to what he's going to do to top you. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/AudibleSilence/3si%20and%20GTOUK%20Hosting/Smilies/mjpopcorngt9.gif
Permanent grin
10-16-2011, 11:28 AM
I don't think he plans to with the 3s platform, I think he will TRY with his Subaru Imprezza RB5. The turbo he has on that is huge, it sits above the hood!
I still don't think he'll be able to because even if he can get his power to weight ratio higher than mine, he'll have no torque. Without the torque, the car just won't get going fast enough imo.
We've seen quite a few big build scooby's in the UK at TOTB etc. and whilst they are very fast they aren't world beating fast. The quickest I have seen is 9.27 @ 154 or something with the bulk of them not going quicker than 9.5x.
André
green-lantern
10-16-2011, 12:56 PM
LuLz, that man can certainly build a car. I'd be concerned as to what he's going to do to top you. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/AudibleSilence/3si%20and%20GTOUK%20Hosting/Smilies/mjpopcorngt9.gif
Well since he is building it I guess he would sort of take some credit for how it runs. Unless it doesn't run well and he can blame it on Andre's driving. :D jk
Permanent grin
10-16-2011, 01:16 PM
:lol::lol::lol:
My new custom fabricated meth tank, Aquamist pump housing and enclosure.
You can just make out the flush fit filler cap on the grey meth tank. The blue enclosure on the right keeps the whole lot separate from the driver's compartment for safety regulations compliance.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/methtankandpumpcompcomp.jpg
André
green-lantern
10-16-2011, 01:26 PM
WOW that's bad ass. Was that made or bought.
Permanent grin
10-16-2011, 01:32 PM
Custom made by the fabricator at Eurospec. It is fully baffled too.
André
green-lantern
10-16-2011, 01:46 PM
Sweet! Can't wait to see this thing together.
GTOJOE
10-16-2011, 08:24 PM
Had to be blue didn't it.....
Permanent grin
10-16-2011, 08:25 PM
?
André
GTOJOE
10-16-2011, 08:28 PM
?
André
Your meth box..... had to be blue :lol: I love your car but hate blue interiors :p
Joe
Permanent grin
10-16-2011, 08:30 PM
:lol: Already had the blue thang going on!
André
Permanent grin
11-26-2011, 12:57 PM
My TE37SL's sporting their 315/30/18 R888's
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/TE37SL.jpg
The car has now gone off to the body shop to have some wheel arch work done. The reason this was required?
A lot of you will be old enough to remember the 'Carlos Fandango wheels' Panama advert from the 70's and for those that don't, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nqqZ28m8uCo
Here is my version of enough rubber to keep me on the road! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I reckon with that amount of rubber it'll run 9's all day long on pump fuel! :twisted:
Front wheel from above
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/CarlosFandango3.jpg
Rear wheel from above
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/CarlosFandango2.jpg
And from the front
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/CarlosFandango1.jpg
green-lantern
11-26-2011, 02:32 PM
Yep nuts alright! Those rims are very nice, how wide are they? 12"? lol
What are they going to do to the fenders? Flares?
mb7050
11-26-2011, 02:34 PM
I feel bad for your drivetrain :tongue_smilie:
Permanent grin
11-26-2011, 02:41 PM
They are 18"x10.5".
Something similar to this if Cianci doesn't reply to James at Amber fairly soon.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/rolledarchesideas.jpg
I am considering this (http://www.c7carbon.com/mitsubishi-3000gt-wide-body-kit-judgement-c1-85)Cianci kit though
André
Permanent grin
11-26-2011, 03:15 PM
The drive train is going to be the potential weak spot. I have a full bell housing brace on both gearboxes as well a DR billet end cases on each gearbox. Gearbox #1 is a Kormex rebuilt syncro box with a 300M output shaft whilst gearbox #2 is a semi helical dog gear set and bespoke final drive with lsd front and centre diffs and billet forks. The old transfer case is being sent off to Elite for them to analyze the stress and wear points and hopefully come back to me with a stronger solution. That then moves everything down to the ring and pinion.......
André
green-lantern
11-26-2011, 04:41 PM
They are 18"x10.5".
Something similar to this if Cianci doesn't reply to James at Amber fairly soon.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/rolledarchesideas.jpg
I am considering this (http://www.c7carbon.com/mitsubishi-3000gt-wide-body-kit-judgement-c1-85)Cianci kit though
André
That would be great. I don't know why you don't see more widebody 3s's. As long as the car is I think it looks good. If you look down on a 3s like from the 2nd-3rd floor of a building it really lets you know how long theses cars are.
my 295's don't even stick out quite that far.
Permanent grin
11-26-2011, 05:48 PM
They wouldn't, these are 315's
André
mb7050
11-26-2011, 06:04 PM
I´m fairly certain the red car is not built by cianci ? they have a precise copy of the kit ? FWIW
YATTCAR's Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/YATTCAR) <- built it
Permanent grin
11-26-2011, 06:15 PM
I know, at the bottom you can see some pictures of their kit. The main point was that the wings are 2-3" wider than stock which would suit my set up perfectly.
André
They wouldn't, these are 315's
André
actually mine are 285's...but that's not the point. i have 24mm offset & spacers, and yours STILL stick out wider than mine. by a LOT. it really looks like you have 12mm offset or something.
Permanent grin
11-26-2011, 06:25 PM
+20
André
green-lantern
11-26-2011, 06:28 PM
I´m fairly certain the red car is not built by cianci ? they have a precise copy of the kit ? FWIW
YATTCAR's Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/YATTCAR) <- built it
That is ridiculously low, it doesn't serve any purpose other than cruising the hood and bumping some jams. A true handling package to allow a bit of travel would be great.
mb7050
11-26-2011, 06:32 PM
Sorry to derail your thread a bit but I likes this widebody.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/019/2/1/Mitsubishi_GTO_MR_Gals_by_granturismomh.jpg
green-lantern
11-26-2011, 06:38 PM
I like the widebody (better with 18-19's instead of 20's) but the graphics are tacky.
Permanent grin
11-26-2011, 06:46 PM
That is ridiculously low, it doesn't serve any purpose other than cruising the hood and bumping some jams. A true handling package to allow a bit of travel would be great.
I won't be running low for hood cruising, remember this will be a dd that I take fishing etc.
My offsets were calculated using the stock sizing my car came with, 235/45/17 8.5" +46 ET for the 1st wheel and 315/30/18 10.5" +20 ET for wheel 2 on this (http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp)site
You will see I tried to keep the inside of the wheel and tire pretty close inboard but hopefully not rubbing. Sure there is a lot of fender work to be done, but as I see it, that is the variable in the equation. Most other things can't be moved much, like inner arches and struts.
but I likes this widebody.
I do too but I'm not wholly convinced by the leading edge of the rear wing where it meets the skirt or the way the front bumper has been integrated into the front flare.
André
Sorry to derail your thread a bit but I likes this widebody.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/019/2/1/Mitsubishi_GTO_MR_Gals_by_granturismomh.jpg
promising, but i see a bunch of angles disguised by tacky graphics.
mehrshadvr4
11-26-2011, 07:55 PM
the rear bumper and quarter panel of that wide body is so damn ugly. the red one is something else. get pit road m wide body kit. they look much cleaner or you can just flare the fenders like the pit road m.
http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/articles/jdm/06/0008.jpg
green-lantern
11-26-2011, 07:58 PM
the rear of that wide body is so damn ugly. get pit road m wide body hit. looks much cleaner. or you can just flare the fenders like the pit road m.
http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/articles/jdm/06/0008.jpg
I think that is a good look but some of the rest of the car I'm not big on.
this is 19x10+42 on my car:p
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00518.JPG
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00446.JPG
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00450.JPG
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00442.JPG
not much you can do about it now...let us know how it goes though! :)
I find even with this offset the car gets pulled a fair bit more around by the imperfections in the road
i'd say it has more to do with treadwidth than offset. the stance on these cars is acceptably wide to begin with.
Permanent grin
11-27-2011, 10:38 AM
We don't have the luxury of wheel showrooms anywhere near me and where my car was already off the road there was zero chance of test fitting. Also Volks need to be imported so you need to order your ET and I really didn't want any calliper, strut or wheel well fouling. Effectively, yours are 1.5" wider than stock but only moved out by 4mm. Not only that but the 315 rubber will be wider than the rim too.
André
yeah that's cool :) and you never know how much a tyre will stick out over the rim, you pretty much have to buy the combo and see what happens, that's why I'm asking for photo's to see what you can get away with when using the R888's
mehrshadvr4
11-28-2011, 04:29 AM
you can buy them here if you are interested.
PIT ROAD M M-SPL Rear Fenders - FRP Mitsubishi GTO Z15A Z16A (http://www.rhdjapan.com/pit-road-m-m-spl-rear-fenders-frp-mitsubishi-gto-z15a-z16a-66142)
PIT ROAD M M-SPL Front Fenders Set - FRP Mitsubishi GTO Z15A Z16A (http://www.rhdjapan.com/pit-road-m-m-spl-front-fenders-set-frp-mitsubishi-gto-z15a-z16a-66141)
Permanent grin
11-28-2011, 04:45 AM
Yikes! For $2000 I'd be over half way to an entire widebody kit from Cianci!
Besides, they are nowhere near wide enough
André
mehrshadvr4
11-28-2011, 05:32 AM
how much Cianci charges you fro wide body? if i remember the front fender and rear quarter panel wasn't that much cheaper. you are looking at around 1500-1600 i think. you should consider aerodynamic also if you plan to drag your car. Cianci complete wide body is not that aero dynamic since it's so wide. not sure about the front, but the rear ones are very wide. this is 285 tires with fat ass spacer/offset. i think yours stick out less that that. you should be able to flair the fenders for much cheaper.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dlHRxIBY-8o/TWJZwwh0RBI/AAAAAAAACvM/l2ihIJBKQ2Q/s1600/pitroad-M-Mitsubishi-3000GT-rays-TE37-SL-wheels.jpg
Permanent grin
11-28-2011, 08:18 AM
The PRM offerings flair the front by 30mm and rears by 60mm. Also, they were using 285/30/18 tyres not 315/30/18's.
The front definitely won't be enough, the rears might but wouldn't know without measuring.
I take the point about larger surface area about drag b ut this is primarily a road car.
André
fullracegt
12-19-2011, 01:35 AM
this is 19x10+42 on my car:p
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00518.JPG
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00446.JPG
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00450.JPG
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Rims/XXR%20522/DSC00442.JPG
not much you can do about it now...let us know how it goes though! :)
I find even with this offset the car gets pulled a fair bit more around by the imperfections in the road
what wheels are those? i didnt think 10" wide wheels with that offset would clear,im assuming there very close to the struts.
looks sweet!!
Just XXR 522's, 19x10+42
they fit really well actually. keep in mind I'm on coilovers with custom top plates.
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/left%20side%20(14).JPG
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/Top%20Mounts%20(8).JPG
Working towards 18x11+34 in the next year, will stick out in total around 1" so flares will be the go.
Permanent grin
12-19-2011, 06:14 AM
Nice info, how do they fare with rubbing on the inner arch at full lock?
André
since I've been playing with everything I'll have to have a look again, they were only slightly rubbing at full right lock and not full left (only the right side wheel rubbing) since then I've put the top mount on so I expect the rubbing would be worse, might get down stairs tomorrow night with the camera and take some better shots of it seeing as you guys seem interested.
think it was mentioned before but this are actually 3cm larger in diameter than stock (stock is 65, these are 68 cm in diameter) so going down to the correct stock aspect (285/30R19) would most likely give bucketloads of clearance, better yet the 1.5cm lower sidewall should actually bring the side of the tire under the coil's lower locking rings giving around another CM of clearance.
not willing to go down to the 30 sidewall till these tires are all used up though :p (and they are new)
tyrewall to spring
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/clearance%20(4).JPG
left wheel to inner fender (coil at full extension)
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/clearance%20(5).JPG
other side of car front full extension, slight rub marks
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/clearance%20(6).JPG
Drivers side front this is the worst, as I did not have the cover pulled back, it's now cable tied
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/clearance%20(7).JPG
will have to check again where the rub marks are, the only "bad" marks are that last one, standing at front of car, left side front (gearbox basically)
green-lantern
12-23-2011, 12:26 AM
wow that is close
took a bazzillion pics to better show it, there are more or less only 2 spots that are getting "real" contact and my steering rack was not aligned when I re-installed it after pulling the front k frame to remove rust, So some of this damage is before I realized the wheels were able to turn 1cm further left than right (measured on the outside edge of the tyre itself)
there are only 2 marks on the chassis rails that I believe are still getting the occasional rubbing, they are (looking top down) on the front of the rails (rear of the tyres seems to not make much contact anymore)
showing the rear contact marks from around 5,000km of driving
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/Clearance2%20(4).jpg
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/Clearance2%20(7).jpg
The front mark
engine side:
http://3000gt.com.au/car/Misc/Coilovers/Custom%20Topmounts/Clearance2%20(6).jpg
somehow I missed the gearbox side :p BUT without adjustment (and cable tying) it managed to wear away around 1mm of the gearbox shield as well as wearing back some of the paint on the chassis rail.
unless you guys want anything more I'll stop filling Andre's thread with rubbish :p
Permanent grin
12-23-2011, 06:33 AM
Michael, I find it interesting. I think there is a call for this kind of knowledge / information as I found myself making assumptions and guessing at what would clear etc.
A quick update on my car though
My car is currently near Luton having the arches done. They have unhooked the shocks to drop the car down to max travel so they know where to cut the wings for clearance. Then they will make new inner arches and then build the wings out to cover the wheels. Lee said it's going to still look GTO, just on steroids!
Lee said he will try to get me some progress pictures before Christmas.
That will take us up to mid Jan, then it's off to Andy Robinson Race Cars (5 minutes from me) to have the welded in chromoly roll cage made, detachable chute mount made and electrical safety cut out made up. The cut out switch has to be externally mounted at the back of the car; this would invalidate my insurance as anyone could switch the alarm off, so I am going to mount the switch on a spare 2nd Gen centre garnish through one of the reversing lights. Come race day, 2 nuts to swap the garnishes over, plug a couple of wires into the switch and hey presto! Race regulations compliant.
From there it's back to Ben's around the end of January to have the engine put back in as well as fitting the steel flywheel plate to the bulkhead.
Ideally I would want it to be ready for 6th April which is the 1st round of the Jap Drag Series but would prefer it to be ready a while before this, to get a practice drag run in at least. This would give us an opportunity to optimize launch control, flat shift, strain gauge and traction control, plus it would give me a chance to get used to using a chute!
In the meantime, I am trying to find out if my dog box together with its LSD's can be delivered and fitted.
André
mehrshadvr4
12-23-2011, 04:46 PM
nice when do you think the dog box will be ready?
Permanent grin
12-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Well, I've been told it is ready now, but just need to confirm this with the boss there
André
mehrshadvr4
12-23-2011, 05:39 PM
damn must have pictures.
Permanent grin
12-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Another little teaser for you, I have a guy currently designing a custom interior for me. Everything from carpet to head lining, to dash and centre console to door cards to pillar trims and custom panels to replace the plastic panels.
Like I said, a little teaser. Here is the proposed door card design. It has a padded elbow pad, no door release lever (a strap instead), a mesh cargo pocket on the lower part of the door as well as a removable Alcantara pouch towards the back of the door, that you can take with you when you leave the vehicle.
The colours and materials currently being discussed are carbon fibre and anthracite alcantara with a royal blue double stitch. And for those with keen eyes, the door handle will be in a silver carbon fibre, plus the electric window switches will be relocated to the centre console or dash.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/dorcarddrawing.jpg
André
Vantage
12-23-2011, 07:49 PM
Pretty cool..but not sure how I feel about the pocket book "pouch" on the door.
Permanent grin
12-23-2011, 08:11 PM
Good for the satnav I thought
André
Vantage
12-23-2011, 08:52 PM
I guess, the brown just seems kind of odd IMO.
Permanent grin
12-23-2011, 08:59 PM
Those aren't the colours, they were just for the concept to make different parts more obvious
André
Vantage
12-23-2011, 09:10 PM
Ahh gotcha, all is well than. My bad.
mehrshadvr4
12-23-2011, 11:17 PM
go for brown and cf mix like pagani huayra interior. i love the color mix like that. so luxury and nice.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/01/pagani-huayra-2011-01-26-800-34-600.jpg
agreed. if it's in a pagani, you can't really go wrong.
Permanent grin
12-24-2011, 06:58 AM
Not quite what I was after. I feel that would be like that really sweet desert that you can't get enough of, so you have it 3 times a week for the next fortnight until it loses it's initial appeal....forever.
What I'm saying is, that looks ok, but how would it be living with it? Looking at it every day? For me, it would be too much.
André
Not quite what I was after. I feel that would be like that really sweet desert that you can't get enough of, so you have it 3 times a week for the next fortnight until it loses it's initial appeal....forever.
What I'm saying is, that looks ok, but how would it be living with it? Looking at it every day? For me, it would be too much.
André
then go for db9 alcantara or some such.
keo92stealth
12-24-2011, 01:45 PM
go for brown and cf mix like pagani huayra interior. i love the color mix like that. so luxury and nice.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/01/pagani-huayra-2011-01-26-800-34-600.jpg
I bet one of those hand stitched seats are 5-10 thousand bucks lol. that would b a sick interior for any car!
JasonY
12-24-2011, 01:50 PM
Zonda interior sucks. As busy and overstyled as the exterior. Do not want.
Jason
I agree with Jason. Too much crap in there.
green-lantern
12-24-2011, 05:41 PM
go for brown and cf mix like pagani huayra interior. i love the color mix like that. so luxury and nice.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/01/pagani-huayra-2011-01-26-800-34-600.jpg
Reminds me of a guitar for some reason. It's pretty cool but I'm not really thinking it's my style though.
The shifter is really cool.
mehrshadvr4
12-25-2011, 02:49 PM
Well it's not just the pagani with this color. Most exotic cars have this color. For me at least I want to site in there because I love this color. I'll do this color to my car some day.
This color mix also is very nice.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4N7J2bZZa94/TaXNC87EWAI/AAAAAAAABbg/oGLpSf-H8G4/s1600/ferrari-ff-interior-2.jpg
Permanent grin
12-29-2011, 06:15 PM
Thanks to PaulW. He called by Elite Racing Transmissions today and grabbed these pictures of some of my dog gear set.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/gtogearkit.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/gtogearkit2.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/gtogearkit3-1.jpg
I've also asked to get some pictures taken during assembly of the transmission.
They also now list the LSD's on their site.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/FrontLSD.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/centrelsd.jpg
André
Permanent grin
12-29-2011, 06:36 PM
Just got these photos through from the body shop.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011054.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011052.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011055.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011056.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011058.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011059.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011060.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011061.jpg
André
wow, they are ACTUALLY taking step by step shots for you, amazing!
mehrshadvr4
12-29-2011, 08:12 PM
wow. can you link us the link to the lsds. i want to know more about that center diff.
Permanent grin
12-31-2011, 07:35 AM
There's a little information but not much on their website but they can do a choice of ramp angles as shown at the very bottom of this page (http://www.eliteracingtransmissions.com/index.php?lsd).
The best guys to speak to are Mark Bloor or Dave Fenton either by phone or e-mail.
André
mehrshadvr4
12-31-2011, 04:12 PM
so you don't know if the center diff is viscous lsd like the factory one?
Permanent grin
12-31-2011, 08:39 PM
It is not a viscous type it is a plate type diff
André
J. Fast
01-02-2012, 02:35 AM
Just got these photos through from the body shop.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011054.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011052.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011055.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011056.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011058.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011059.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011060.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/pics23122011061.jpg
André
That's badass! ... and the tranny parts look purdy!
Permanent grin
01-02-2012, 06:04 AM
Thanks for the comments guys, I'll see if I can get any more bodywork shots later this week.
André
Permanent grin
01-04-2012, 04:39 PM
Here's the exploded diagram of the gearset for the dog box.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/Gearboxexploded_001.jpg
André
mehrshadvr4
01-04-2012, 06:48 PM
do you know what the power split for the center diff?
Permanent grin
01-04-2012, 06:53 PM
I asked for 50:50, the same as stock.
André
green-lantern
01-04-2012, 07:03 PM
Keep the pics coming Andre, I'm liking what the body shop is doing.
mehrshadvr4
01-05-2012, 12:13 AM
stock is 40/60. 50/50 is same as welded center diff.
JasonY
01-05-2012, 12:15 AM
stock with wheel spin is 45f/55r, w/o load its 50/50...
Jason
interesting, I figured it'd transfer more than that under load :)
Permanent grin
01-05-2012, 04:35 AM
When we tested it on the dyno it was 50:50!
André
Permanent grin
01-12-2012, 08:09 PM
Rear arches are all but done! And don't worry, the side skirts will be made good with the new lines!
Sorry but this is PICTURE HEAVY!
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper031.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper035.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper042.jpghttp://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper046.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper047.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper048.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper049.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper051.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper053.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper055.jpg
Permanent grin
01-12-2012, 08:10 PM
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper058.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper060.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper062.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper067.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper068.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper069.jpg
And the other side (I won't put them all up)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper077.jpg
green-lantern
01-12-2012, 08:27 PM
Don't ever apologize for the pics my friend, only the rear wing. :p ;)
Permanent grin
01-12-2012, 08:37 PM
:p
I like that wing!
:lo5l::lo5l:
André
keo92stealth
01-12-2012, 08:41 PM
how much is left after the body work? i wanna see this thing go!!!!! this is going to be nutz! can only imagine.
Permanent grin
01-12-2012, 08:53 PM
From the body shop, it goes to Andy Robinson for 5-10 days for a cage, removable chute mount and detachable master power cut off, then back to the workshop to have the engine refitted. I should get the dog box back by the end of January with any luck. Waiting on a lead time for custom shims for my solid lifters, but if they can't do them quick enough we'll just have to go with 3rd Gen hydraulics. We are waiting for a couple of parts from the States at the moment too. Without them, nothing happens.
André
keo92stealth
01-12-2012, 09:01 PM
true. this thing is gonna rock and roll. so probably still a few months out. should be just in time for racing season!!! bet you cant wait.
Permanent grin
01-12-2012, 09:05 PM
It's tight, the first race in the Jap Drag Series is 6th April and it's a cumulative points series
André
keo92stealth
01-12-2012, 09:14 PM
you should whop ass lol. your only comp should be skyline gtr's.
Permanent grin
01-12-2012, 09:21 PM
I think the AWD Street run with the RWD Street also. Last season I believe the top 2 were RX7's. Looking at their times though, I'll be disappointed if I don't beat them silly! :lo5l:
André
keo92stealth
01-12-2012, 09:25 PM
lol. yea, go out and crush them little fd's.
CoopKill
01-12-2012, 10:01 PM
Sure wish I would have remembered to cover my glass when I did the welding on mine... :sad:
fullracegt
01-17-2012, 05:09 AM
cant wait to see the front fenders!!
Permanent grin
01-17-2012, 06:07 PM
Being that my car is now 6" wider and my garage was barely wide enough to get in and out of my car before hand I thought I ought to get some of these.
I'm taking them to the body shop tomorrow.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/VLShinges.jpg
These aren't the kind that flop over to the side, they are fully adjustable for how far you open the door before it goes up, how far up it goes (up to a full 90 degrees) and how vertical the door sits when up from the other axis. They have twin gas shocks on each side to provide 300 lbs of lift
André
awesome, will be keen to see what your experience is with them :)
Permanent grin
01-17-2012, 06:18 PM
So will I!! It was out of necessity as with the car 3" wider on each side, that'll be 3" less I can pull the car over in the garage effectively giving me a door opening 3" narrower than before. I was having to squeeze out before hand!
André
Hans@GZP
01-17-2012, 06:21 PM
Ugh, I used those type I universal weld on hinges before. I hope you have better luck than me. I couldn't get the inside door molding to clear the fender.
Permanent grin
01-17-2012, 06:27 PM
They're the specific ones not the universal ones.
André
Hans@GZP
01-17-2012, 06:42 PM
I didn't see any mounting points for where it bolts to the door. I guess I was mistaken. Looks just like the universal one I installed.
Permanent grin
01-17-2012, 06:49 PM
They aren't bolt on, they are weld on but I believe they did universal weld on and vehicle specific weld on. We'll find out how much hassle they are to fit soon enough! :Bubble:
André
Hans@GZP
01-17-2012, 06:51 PM
Good luck. I would have gone with some ones from Deft to be honest. I can almost guarantee you will hate those.
Permanent grin
01-17-2012, 06:57 PM
I didn't like the way they flopped over
André
Emilie@GZP
01-17-2012, 06:58 PM
pics here of the one we did with the.
97 red VR4 pictures by 3Scar - Photobucket (http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/3Scar/97%20red%20VR4/)
Permanent grin
01-17-2012, 07:40 PM
Looks nice Emilie.
André
Emilie@GZP
01-17-2012, 07:50 PM
horrible quality, in all honesty. Just be wary of those hinges.
Permanent grin
01-17-2012, 07:53 PM
Noted, thanks for the heads up. Just spotted I spelt your name wrong. :o
André
Hans@GZP
01-17-2012, 08:19 PM
The customer ended up requesting us to remove them. At least they supplied them so it wasn't my problem. I had warned him before installing them. The interior door molding kept hitting the top of the fender.
Permanent grin
01-18-2012, 07:34 PM
This is how they are blending the side skirts into the rear arches.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0069.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0066.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0065.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0067.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0063.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/IMG_0064.jpg
There is also a plan to spacer out the bottom left and right edges of the back bumper, to just cover a little bit more of the tyre when looking from behind.
André
don't really need to. if you look at everything from a mustang to a camaro, the fenders are wider at the top than the bottom. the benefit of this is that it allows for a great variety of tire widths. i think it'll look fine as it is.
Permanent grin
01-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Do you not end up getting huge amounts of spray up the side of the car from wet roads? We get a lot of that over here!!
André
Do you not end up getting huge amounts of spray up the side of the car from wet roads? We get a lot of that over here!!
André
shit, my tires stick out so far i send up rooster tails on all four corners.
Permanent grin
01-18-2012, 08:04 PM
Yeah and I have a white car........:lol::lol::lol:
We get pulled for stuff like that over here.
André
Permanent grin
01-30-2012, 05:17 PM
This is how they did the back end of the side skirts.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch6.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch5.jpg
How it looks
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch4.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch7.jpg
On to the front driver's side
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch8.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch9.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch10.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch11.jpg
FeaRpb
01-30-2012, 05:21 PM
looks great
Permanent grin
01-30-2012, 05:23 PM
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch12.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch13.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch14.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch15.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch16.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch17.jpg
Time to cut out the old wing (fender) from the inside
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch18.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch19.jpg
Permanent grin
01-30-2012, 05:26 PM
Refitted
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch20.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch21.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/widearch22.jpg
The front of the side skirt is currently being worked on.
André
i'd give my left nut if someone would make metal fenders like that available on a production run.
green-lantern
01-30-2012, 06:11 PM
WOW! I need to change my vote to that's just nuts! lol
Cant wait to see what this looks like finished.
JasonY
01-30-2012, 06:18 PM
I hope the car doesnt end up looking short now that its almost 6" wider :eek:
Jason
Permanent grin
01-30-2012, 06:38 PM
Well the splitter will add a little to the length of it...:lol:
André
JasonY
01-30-2012, 08:03 PM
:D
Jason
Turbo Beast
01-30-2012, 09:03 PM
I can't wait to see it on the road!
Permanent grin
01-31-2012, 07:13 PM
Decided to get my headers, O2 housings and turbo hot sides Zircotec ceramic coated in Performance Colour. We chose their metallic black coating.
Hoping to reduce under bonnet temperatures as much as possible and retain as much heat in the exhaust gas hitting the exhaust wheels. in the turbos for maximum spool
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/0043.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/0032.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/0023.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/0053.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/DR1400%20build/0013.jpg
André
FeaRpb
01-31-2012, 07:16 PM
Looks very nice
mehrshadvr4
01-31-2012, 09:38 PM
i want that wide body.
fullracegt
01-31-2012, 10:59 PM
your wide body is looking sick,cant wait to see it painted!
Street_Chally73
02-01-2012, 04:44 AM
Awesome build that you're pulling off across the pond!!! That custom wide body is simply amazing!!!...As for those turbos...Completely awesome!!!!!
thor'svr4
02-01-2012, 09:06 AM
WOW. this is a crazy build. those fenders and side skirts are insane. very cool pics.
Permanent grin
02-15-2012, 10:46 AM
The bodywork is now finished and the car is in the booth for spraying tonight! It is being transported down to Andy Robinson Race Cars for its roll cage, removable parachute mount and removable electrical safety cut out system.
The other front wing. For anyone thinking of doing something similar, Lee was kind enough to photograph the post measurements for the arch frame.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3095.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3099.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3101.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3102.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3103.jpg
Permanent grin
02-15-2012, 10:51 AM
And onto the front of the side skirts...
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3104.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3079.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3105.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3083.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3082.jpg
Permanent grin
02-15-2012, 11:08 AM
And ready to be prepared for paint. For the sharp eyed, you will see the bottom of the mouth has bee removed from the front bumper. This also involved extending the sides of the mouth down to the bottom of the side pods. All along the bottom of the front bumper, excluding the mouth has the holes for bolting the bumper to the splitter. We have used dome headed allen bolts for the underside of the splitter.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3108.jpghttp://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3114.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3110.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3111.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/picsGTOCamper3106.jpg
Inside the wheel arches have stone guard protection sprayed white to clean up the finish too.
The Diablo doors will be done another time as it is more important to get the car running!
André
can you please post pictures showing the inside of the guards? sort of up and into them if you know what I mean
Permanent grin
02-15-2012, 04:38 PM
If I don't get them from the body shop, I will be seeing the car in the flesh on Friday, so I'll grab some then
André
Thankyou! by the looks of things they are doing a lot better than I originally imagined :)
Tigchamp
02-15-2012, 04:43 PM
Looking good André, cant wait to see it painted.
Are You sticking with pearl white or are You going for a real color.
BLACK, LOL
Jeff
terrets
02-15-2012, 04:45 PM
Looking good André, cant wait to see it painted.
Are You sticking with pearl white or are You going for a real color.
BLACK, LOL
Jeff
Pearl White is a real color. A sexy color I might add.
Permanent grin
02-15-2012, 04:56 PM
Are You sticking with pearl white or are You going for a real color.
BLACK, LOL:lol::p
Pearl white FTW! Didn't you know that the vast majority of very fast 3S's are white?
Matt M
Nelson
Rlataiile
hopefully mine.....
BTW, when it does go in for a full respray, I have a nice pearl white with blue picked out for it.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/Blue_Pearl.jpg
André
Tigchamp
02-15-2012, 05:03 PM
Its gona look neat André.
Jeff
Permanent grin
02-15-2012, 05:15 PM
Until I bend it! LOL
André
mehrshadvr4
02-15-2012, 09:39 PM
damn that spliter look sick. i love the wide body. i hope someone make a kit like that.
green-lantern
02-15-2012, 09:56 PM
Love this thread :D
anyonebutme
02-15-2012, 11:51 PM
simply awesome
anyonebutme
02-15-2012, 11:57 PM
Wait, do I spy 1G brakes?!?
You're going to change those, right?
I am running a BBK GB right now, in case your interested............
Permanent grin
02-16-2012, 05:17 AM
Wait, do I spy 1G brakes?!?
You're going to change those, right?
No, they are 2G brakes. DBA4000 rotors with Yellow Stuff Pads. That combination works really well. Also using braided lines and DOT5.1 fluid, changed regularly. The reason I didn't go BBK (until I find I need to) is to keep rotational mass and unsprung weight to a minimum. I have read that rotational mass is reduction is equivalent to somewhere between 6-15 times physical mass reduction.
André
i like it. well...everything except for the hood, i think.
Permanent grin
02-16-2012, 11:37 AM
The hood is getting changed.....or modified!
André
Rakuny
02-16-2012, 12:36 PM
Rotational mass makes a much bigger difference if it's on the end of the rotation.. The rotors being pretty centered in the rotation won't make anywhere near 6-15 times difference.. It will probably act more like 1.5 lbs for every lb or so.
Permanent grin
02-16-2012, 12:58 PM
That makes sense. How does the weight of a bbk compare to stock-ish set ups? That would also be relevant to unsprung mass.
André
anyonebutme
02-16-2012, 01:16 PM
Most BBK kits are lighter than stock by like 4 lbs a corner....I'd at least get SCE 2-piece rotors, which alone are 3.5 lbs lighter a piece. Or if it's a drag only car, there are even lighter drag racing brakes, I think it was STM that put a kit together.
Permanent grin
02-16-2012, 01:19 PM
This is a street DD that will also drag. Interesting about the weight thing though. Maybe I'll look a bit closer. I was almost tempted by some Tarox 10 pot 2 piece rotor brakes a while back, in anodized blue. I have to go careful on the size as my track wheels are 17x9's
André
AdamVR4
02-16-2012, 02:52 PM
:lol::p
Pearl white FTW! Didn't you know that the vast majority of very fast 3S's are white?
Matt M
Nelson
Rlataiile
hopefully mine.....
Who? I tried searching.
Fantastic color choice.
Vantage
02-16-2012, 03:04 PM
Who? I tried searching.
I'm not sure he's on this site, but you can find his build thread on the other site. His username is actually spelt 'rlataille' and he's running a 6g74 w/ DR1300s.
Permanent grin
02-16-2012, 03:10 PM
The guy on the other site that bought Matt's old DR1300's
Built 3.5X 6g74
-20 over ross pistons
-billet rods
-oringed
-stock 6g72 head gasket
DR 1300's
Stage 3 heads
street cams
front LSD
BFG oil pump gears
AEM EMS
1000CC+ injectors
220PSI snow performance meth kit
3.5in exhaust
dual walborow's dual feed
300m output shaft
hardend input spool
T case bracket (Nelson)
intake pipes
3" front mount (may upgrade to 4-6in when money alows)
twin disc RPS Carbon clutch
MSD coil packs
MSD wires
HKS SSQV
PPE piping
still looking/ considering
HKS DLI
CFDS
cam gears
weld VCU
center LSD
rear LSD
Peal white with the '99 front and 599 hood
André
green-lantern
02-16-2012, 03:48 PM
I am running a BBK GB right now, in case your interested............
No, they are 2G brakes. DBA4000 rotors with Yellow Stuff Pads. That combination works really well. Also using braided lines and DOT5.1 fluid, changed regularly. The reason I didn't go BBK (until I find I need to) is to keep rotational mass and unsprung weight to a minimum. I have read that rotational mass is reduction is equivalent to somewhere between 6-15 times physical mass reduction.
André
http://www.3sgto.org/f43/gi-big-brake-kits-floating-rotors-6525.html
Do it!
Permanent grin
02-16-2012, 04:24 PM
They won't fit under my 17's!
André
keo92stealth
02-16-2012, 09:57 PM
so what there is only 2 dr1300 cars out there? how about we increase that!! :)
Permanent grin
02-18-2012, 05:47 PM
My car is now at Andy Robinson Race Cars to have its roll cage and parachute mount made and electrical safety cut out system fitted.
I also got to see the arches and skirts fitted and sprayed for the 1st time.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/011-1.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/012-1.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/031.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/013-1.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/014-1.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/015.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/010.jpg
I'm wondering whether it needs the splitter to be black and something to finish it off around the bottom of the FMIC
André
anyonebutme
02-18-2012, 06:12 PM
Looks good. I wish I had the funds or talent to do similar.
pretty much how it should have come factory.
Permanent grin
02-18-2012, 06:30 PM
For those interested, I tried to take some shots behind the wheels to show clearances. For information, the wheels and tyres are 18" x 10.5" Volks TE37SL's with +15 ET.
Rear wheel
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/020.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/019.jpg
Front wheel
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/029.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/047.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/044.jpg
Permanent grin
02-18-2012, 06:32 PM
At full lock
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/035.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/036.jpg
The other lock
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/037.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/038.jpg
André
mehrshadvr4
02-18-2012, 06:47 PM
damn nice. are those red gto and gtr yours as well?
Permanent grin
02-18-2012, 06:50 PM
The Red Mk4 GTO is, the GTR isn't unfortunately. Sharp eyes!
Here's one special piece of kit I saw down there, see if you can identify it.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt242/agysler/009.jpg
André
anyonebutme
02-18-2012, 07:58 PM
GT40 rep.
Permanent grin
02-18-2012, 08:15 PM
Good spot!
it's a genuine, original GT40 in the flesh and to say it was mint is an understatement! Even the brushed aluminium release handles are totally unmarked, no wear, no scratches, no paw prints, nothing.
André
anyonebutme
02-18-2012, 08:33 PM
Neat. I didn't know the original street version came with adjustable sway bar.
J. Fast
02-18-2012, 09:04 PM
She has curves now, son! Nice Andre`!
Tigchamp
02-19-2012, 06:23 AM
Looking great André,
Are You going to be able to get that front spliter through the MOT. It looks a bit sharp.
Jeff
Permanent grin
02-19-2012, 06:28 AM
Cheers Jeff
If it's a problem, I'll either split some silicone tubing length ways and slip that on or have a cf / fibre glass piece to slip over it.
André
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