GOD%$^)!@ I hate Kormex!

[MADMarc]

New trans put in 20k miles ago. It has leaked since I bought it and they said leaks are "expected." Besides the leaks, a slight whine and notchy shifting I didn't have any other issues...initially. I took the car on a long run up to Mammoth Lakes, CA (about 300 miles one way). This is the first big trip I have taken with the car but I have put right around 20k miles on it commuting on the highway to work and school so I felt that so long as all of my fluids are good beforehand the drive shouldn't be a problem at all.

About an hour and a half in I start to notice a constant vibration under accel...it felt kind've like I was missing a cylinder but the car wasn't missing any power and the engine felt strong. I toss the car in cruise and the vibration goes away (or maybe I just thought it did because I wasn't on the pedal anymore?).

When driving the car home she overheats because a seal froze and cracked while up there but that's another story and I've already taken care of it. I noticed the same vibration all the way home a few days later. I just swapped in the new overflow tank and checked my tcase and transmission fluids while playing with the car. I pulled the transmission fill plug and checked it...of course I'm a little low because that's what always leaked after the new install. I checked the transfer case fluid level and I am solid......uuuuntil I look at the plug - damn thing has metal shavings on it.

Now, can this be the output shaft that is wearing off inside of the tcase and the shavings are accumulating on the magnet of the plug? Would a worn output shaft contribute to the vibration? The majority of me is pissed that I have a shitty transmission that should still be new, but a small part of me is wanted to fork out the several grand to have a transmission rebuilt by Jack's and get this whole transmission problem out of the way and in the past.

Correct me if I am wrong, but so long as the tcase has fluid in it I don't need to worry about it locking up, right? DAMMIT DAMN DAMMIT DAMMIT!


..../rant

[Roybatty]

Tcase shavings not from output shaft.

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[MADMarc]

aaaauuugh....tcase it is then?

[stealthee]

Wait, "leaks are to be expected"?????

Frank proves himself as an ass once again.

[MADMarc]

That's exactly what I said. A new transmission should not leak and if leaks can be "expected" then somebody has been using the wrong products for a long time. I just looked them up on yelp.com and it says they are closed, but when I called he picked up. Friendly comment left for them on there. I know the majority of people don't look at those review sites but if I can help one person to avoid them I will be happy.


...grrrr

[Roybatty]

Can't attest for the vibration, I always think tire balance first on issues like that. I just resealed the t-case and its fluids are isolated from the output shaft. Shavings are from the t-case gears only. Any "its suppose to leak" bs is exactly that. I think we all been affected by dubious mechanics/vendors in our time, hence we are on here getting smarter and doing stuff ourselves where practical.

[MADMarc]

Hmm, thanks for the tip on the separation of fluids. I assumed that since the o/s is inside of the tcase that it may be the problem...that kind've just makes things worse lol. I thought I at least had a good tcase. DAMN IT ALL!

[motomaniac06]

next time have ray p rebuild it he does it for $500+ parts or try to get in on ips's deal right now I think he is trying to set up a deal with mitsu to buy a large quanity brand new 6speeds for $1,478 or 5speeds for $2,309

[Roybatty]

The shavings are "normal".... and not like "leaks" being normal. What you can do if its suspect is pull the t-case, and open it up and do a reseal. But you can see if everything is moving fine with it separated from the output shaft and drive shaft. Read first, as the fluids can come out once the drive shaft is separated from t-case.

Transfer Case Reseal - 3SI Wiki (http://www.3si.org/wiki/index.php/Transfer_Case_Reseal)

Check out the link on the link (to the transmission manual at the end).

My gut says your t-case is fine, I found shavings all over mine, 93k miles, but the gears looked and operated well. I had a little leak I am chasing. When fluids are low in t-case its hard to describe, but it feels sloppy when accelerating and shifting.

[MADMarc]

Thanks for info on the IPS dealio. I recall reading about it but haven't heard any updates so I never thought any more of it.

As for the leak it isn't the transfer case that leaks (of course..that's too simple) it's the transmission. I haven't had to mess with the tcase fluids for a while but the transmission needs fluid added every now and again...In 20k I've probably had to add an additional 4 quarts of oil to it :(. Guess I will just drive it til it breaks and avoid long trips which means anything outside of my AAA tow range ;). Maybe I should upgrade from the 100 mile to a 200 mile tow.

Thanks for the input, guys.

[Nytron]

New trans put in 20k miles ago. It has leaked since I bought it and they said leaks are "expected." Besides the leaks, a slight whine and notchy shifting I didn't have any other issues...initially.

Trans was not built properly then. There should be no leaks at all, and it should shift buttery smooth. I've never heard my transmission whine. Contact someone who actually knows these transmissions, jackstransmissions or pampena motorsports are two that come to mind.

[Polygon]

Yeah, leaks are NEVER to be expected. That's a load of horse shit. I remember when I first got into this platform. Kormex was the one and only name anyone talked about when it came to transmissions. I've seen WAY too many threads like this. I will be sending mine to Jack's as soon as I can find the $8,000 to do everything I want.

[MADMarc]

8 grand?! Holy moly! I will write jack's a message inquiring as to what they think the best steps are to take as I can shift w/o any problems but it's notchy (as stated), clunky when doing hard shifts or when rowing between gears while rolling, damned thing leaks and makes the noise. My uneducated guess would be to go with their value rebuild w/the 300m o/s but I wonder if everything will be required to get it to where it should be.

[MR2]

there was some talk a while back and a thread about getting a stronger spring for the inside of the output shaft seal.

people worried about the 5 speed TC leaking in my opinion need to replace it with the billet alu one. don't fuck around with it..not worth it.

[Polygon]

8 grand?! Holy moly! I will write jack's a message inquiring as to what they think the best steps are to take as I can shift w/o any problems but it's notchy (as stated), clunky when doing hard shifts or when rowing between gears while rolling, damned thing leaks and makes the noise. My uneducated guess would be to go with their value rebuild w/the 300m o/s but I wonder if everything will be required to get it to where it should be.

Hehe, yeah. That's what I figure for everything I want to do if I'm going to drop the trans.

Jack's Stage 3 Rebuild (5 speed/25 spline)
SCE Tosen Center Diff (Which Jack's said they would install for free)
Quafie Front LSD
New Clutch/Flywheel/TOB
Two Piece Aluminum DS

[kormex]

Someone sent me a link to this thread . ok I'll play

Why does anyone here believe that I would really say or think that a transmission leak is "normal" ?

I don't know who this guy is or even if he did buy anything from me. If the trans was leaking since he got it why didn't he bring it here ? we are only 10 minutes from Cucamonga .

Frank

[kormex]

Wait, "leaks are to be expected"?????

Frank proves himself as an ass once again.

I guess thats proof then .

[MADMarc]

I DID bring it to you guys and you (or whomever) told me leaks can be expected and the seals should set after the transmission had been used for a bit...that is why I inquired into extending the warranty as I came down and showed you (or whomever) the problems, including the sloppy feel and leaks, since the problems were present before the expiration of the 30 day warranty and was told no.

[kormex]

I DID bring it to you guys and you (or whomever) told me leaks can be expected and the seals should set after the transmission had been used for a bit...that is why I inquired into extending the warranty as I came down and showed you (or whomever) the problems, including the sloppy feel and leaks, since the problems were present before the expiration of the 30 day warranty and was told no.


There is no fucking way that we would say a leak is to be expected . Are you nuts ?
We never warranty for 30 days.
You just can't make up stuff years and 20k miles after , that's stupid.

[dbest671]

There is no fucking way that we would say a leak is to be expected . Are you nuts ?
We never warranty for 30 days.
You just can't make up stuff years and 20k miles after , that's stupid.

Wow really, that is how you talk to customers? I have read many thread about Kormex, and you have to be one of the rudest business representatives I have witnessed to date. Honestly, your post have ruined ANY chance I would let you touch my transmission or even buy anything from your company.

[Chatzvr4]

We have seen a couple of cases locally hear with a 2nd gear whine and leaks the day it came back from kormex. but the owners lagged on bringing it back and they are now out of warranty. on the other end we have seen several come back with no problems at all. We just finished a trans, our first rebuild for a customer. usually we do it just for our selves. We haven't had one leak yet nor have we had any odd sounds coming out. We are far from a transmission shop yet we were able to do it. I would suggest Ray P or jacks but considering you are in cali you may want to hit up c3motorsports as they only use high quality parts and at a great price. They are who we order our trans parts from

[MADMarc]

I didn't know c3 did transmission rebuilds but would love to see some feedback from transmissions that have been done. I have already been in touch with jacks and once I get the funds to have it gone through I am hoping to pull it out and be done with this mess. I am leaning more towards jacks because of their amazing customer feedback and never seeing them curse at customers in threads, however, I am very interested in seeing other people's work as well...ESPECIALLY if it's local.

[J. Fast]

You afraid to do it yourself? They're cake unless you break parts, you have to go on a witch-hunt to find gears among other things. It would be a great time to fill up your toolbox and you'd get to keep the tools forever.

Never-the-less, I like Jack. He's a good guy. I've seen him bitch a few customers out and whine like a baby too, which proves we're all human and have our bad days.

I'd be interested in hearing Kormex's side of the story. There's always two sides to everything. Then again, there's some things that aren't worth wasting your time, energy, and breath on because even if you did it still still wouldn't matter.

[MADMarc]

I have thought about taking the trans apart but I am in no way prepared for it...I'd have ten times more problems than what I have now.

[Polygon]

There is no fucking way that we would say a leak is to be expected . Are you nuts ?
We never warranty for 30 days.
You just can't make up stuff years and 20k miles after , that's stupid.


Wow really, that is how you talk to customers? I have read many thread about Kormex, and you have to be one of the rudest business representatives I have witnessed to date. Honestly, your post have ruined ANY chance I would let you touch my transmission or even buy anything from your company.

Wow!

Kind of what I was thinking.

[MR2]

Unfortunatly, these days the internet is serious business :)

[Keyan]

Unfortunatly, these days the internet is serious business :)

i see what you did there.