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ChargerX3
09-13-2010, 06:24 PM
Like it states. I'm not sure its a viable option as of yet, but i find it helpful at times to know how long people have been active in the 3s(gto) community. Is this a viable option and would you as a forum member like this info carried across.

Post up...

Macky
09-13-2010, 06:25 PM
I dont see a problem with it. I think it would be cool.

MightyMouse
09-13-2010, 06:26 PM
personally i dont really care but it would be cool if it could be done.

green-lantern
09-13-2010, 06:29 PM
As long as I get my 1999 date back http://www.3si.org/forum/images/smilies/new/suspect.gif

CoreyB
09-13-2010, 06:30 PM
I enjoy being a senior member now so no. LOL. It is nice to know though I agree.

mikeyVR4
09-13-2010, 06:31 PM
This is a new site and is not 3si....so why do people want their old dates back (which was from 3si)? Lets start new and not be ashamed of "a" date. Wow.

green-lantern
09-13-2010, 06:31 PM
BTW wouldn't Alan need to go through one by one and update peoples profile?

B-Man
09-13-2010, 06:31 PM
I don't like how people group people together by their "class". But then again, I came from a shitty one :(

green-lantern
09-13-2010, 06:36 PM
I don't like how people group people together by their "class". But then again, I came from a shitty one :(

:hugs:

92RT-TT
09-13-2010, 06:39 PM
I agree that this is a new site, it isnt 3si so our old dates have nothing to do with it

Class of 2007 ;) lol

B-Man
09-13-2010, 06:43 PM
:hugs:

No pants?

Bob
09-13-2010, 06:58 PM
:)One way or the other is fine by me, but the old join dates would be nice.

stealthee
09-13-2010, 07:41 PM
While its not officially 3si it could be like the DSM talk DSM forum split from years ago. I can log into either, and access posts that are identical from years ago. After the split is where posts are different.

This probably isnt a viable option though.

93STLTH
09-13-2010, 07:48 PM
I agree that 3si join dates have nothing to do with this site. What would be nice is to be able to have your join date as the date when you bought your first 3S. Isn't that truly when you became a member of the 3S family? You guys with the 1999 join dates would probably have an even earlier buy date.

beepbeep
09-13-2010, 08:05 PM
I agree that 3si join dates have nothing to do with this site. What would be nice is to be able to have your join date as the date when you bought your first 3S. Isn't that truly when you became a member of the 3S family? You guys with the 1999 join dates would probably have an even earlier buy date.

I was kinda leaning more towards this idea (or something quite like it). And not so much a 'join date' but 'club member/owner date'...cos some folks liked and lurked before they ever signed up or signed up before they bought their first 3SGTO. KWIM?

TT Eric
09-13-2010, 08:15 PM
I like the idea of the join date because when I see an early date, I kinda tend to shut up, pay some respect and listen a little more then a 2010 date who seems to know everything.

Eric

green-lantern
09-13-2010, 08:16 PM
No pants?

http://www.theseriousbusiness.org/forums/images/smilies/icon23.gif

SLAPS35
09-13-2010, 08:19 PM
I like the idea of the join date because when I see an early date, I kinda tend to shut up, pay some respect and listen a little more then a 2010 date who seems to know everything.

Eric

It's the truth.

blindmist
09-13-2010, 08:20 PM
I like the idea of the join date because when I see an early date, I kinda tend to shut up, pay some respect and listen a little more then a 2010 date who seems to know everything.

Eric

^^^^^

But even being from 2005, there isnt much competition :P I did like playing my "seniority" role with the newbs.

TwoXist
09-13-2010, 08:23 PM
For my few years of haunting 3si i have come to learn who knows what. So the dates have never meant much to me. Just the names of the posters.

However the vain part of me would still like to keep my date :P

MightyMouse
09-13-2010, 08:27 PM
I like the idea of the join date because when I see an early date, I kinda tend to shut up, pay some respect and listen a little more then a 2010 date who seems to know everything.

Eric


Youre one of the few. Thank you for doing so

Jeremy C
09-13-2010, 08:35 PM
Join date isn't worth it. I doubt many of the original people who started on 3Si asked for their join dates to make an email they sent to the mailing lists back before the forum was started. I learned who to listen to be reading (then again, I think I had less than 100 posts in my first year, and spent an average of a few hours a day on the forum in that time).

A join date only shows when you clicked an "I agree" button. Doesn't tell you anything about the person and how much knowledge they have.

UTRacerX9
09-14-2010, 09:34 AM
Join date isn't worth it. I doubt many of the original people who started on 3Si asked for their join dates to make an email they sent to the mailing lists back before the forum was started. I learned who to listen to be reading (then again, I think I had less than 100 posts in my first year, and spent an average of a few hours a day on the forum in that time).

A join date only shows when you clicked an "I agree" button. Doesn't tell you anything about the person and how much knowledge they have.

The problem here is that some members have taken a different name on this site vs the one they had on 3SI. I like the idea of having our original join date, but then again I am from 2001. It was a bit of a badge of honor to have remained with the platform for that long, as it really shows who is an enthusiast and who is not. Knowledge of the cars is just another perk.

NickS VR4
09-14-2010, 09:42 AM
Like other have said. If I see someone with a date before me, I tend to shutup. There are two main types of talkers in this community, those that have been around a while and know what they are talking about, and those that are new and think they know what they are talking about (like golferman, with the ugly a$$ car). Date helps distinguish the two.

I also like to see age. Class of 2009/2010 && Age < 20 means 0 credibility in most cases (no offense to the few who know what you are talking about).

To be fair though, I had a 2004 join date, and I know many people who joined after me that know way more than I do.

Nationalmilkman
09-14-2010, 09:48 AM
Like it's been said before, new site, new join date. It's like going to a Honda site and asking for your 3sgto join dateto be displayed. If we are trying to get away fron the 'other' site then we just need to move on from it.

TonyM
09-14-2010, 10:09 AM
Fresh start is my vote, if you want your 3Si join date, stay on 3Si.

thestealth
09-14-2010, 10:26 AM
Fresh start. If your old join date is so important, put it as your "custom user title."

92RT-TT
09-14-2010, 11:09 AM
Like other have said. If I see someone with a date before me, I tend to shutup. There are two main types of talkers in this community, those that have been around a while and know what they are talking about, and those that are new and think they know what they are talking about (like golferman, with the ugly a$$ car). Date helps distinguish the two.

I also like to see age. Class of 2009/2010 && Age < 20 means 0 credibility in most cases (no offense to the few who know what you are talking about).

To be fair though, I had a 2004 join date, and I know many people who joined after me that know way more than I do.

I joined 3si in 2007 and before rep was reset I had like 6 bars of green, but that's a moot point, this is not an old site, its not 3si, so I feel that everyone should get the join date of sept 2010. Do you go to your current credit card company (say you got their card in 2007) and tell them you want the join date of 1999 on your card because you happened to be using a DIFFERENT credit card company back then? Its the same scenario just with a website.

You have to earn your credibility on here. Its not just going to be given to you because you happened to be on the other site for many years. my .02

green-lantern
09-14-2010, 11:10 AM
Again, wouldn't Alan have to change each persons profile one at a time? We have about 1000 people already here. Not to mention he doesn’t have access to 3si anymore.

NickS VR4
09-14-2010, 11:14 AM
I joined 3si in 2007 and before rep was reset I had like 6 bars of green, but that's a moot point, this is not an old site, its not 3si, so I feel that everyone should get the join date of sept 2010. Do you go to your current credit card company (say you got their card in 2007) and tell them you want the join date of 1999 on your card because you happened to be using a DIFFERENT credit card company back then? Its the same scenario just with a website.

You have to earn your credibility on here. Its not just going to be given to you because you happened to be on the other site for many years. my .02

Fair enough. I guess the rep system is actually better. We should get that.



Again, wouldn't Alan have to change each persons profile one at a time? We have about 1000 people already here. Not to mention he doesn’t have access to 3si anymore.

Hell no. I would run an automated script to update that info.

Mista Grimm
09-14-2010, 11:29 AM
Even my 3SI join date isn't correct. It says 2000. I've been a member since summer of 1998. Since way back when 3SI was old-school format. Twinturbo.net still looks that way, ugh!

mh3kgt
09-14-2010, 12:09 PM
New site, I vote for fresh start. Those who were on 3si long enough will know the older members from there anyway.

deadlylegacy
09-14-2010, 12:28 PM
I'm all for the 3S community, but this isn't 3SI.

colt45 gto
09-14-2010, 12:41 PM
its a new site......look back in years to come just as you done with 3si. we all came here together which is cool already!

MightyMouse
09-14-2010, 01:10 PM
Yeah, but now all the newbs on 3si are going to come here and it'd be like we're in Kindergarden with them.. :D

CoreyB
09-14-2010, 01:38 PM
Welcome to Newbville MM.

tazman
09-14-2010, 01:39 PM
I agree that 3si join dates have nothing to do with this site. What would be nice is to be able to have your join date as the date when you bought your first 3S. Isn't that truly when you became a member of the 3S family? You guys with the 1999 join dates would probably have an even earlier buy date.

This makes a lot more sense, than carrying over a join date from another forum...

DJ_X_Factor
09-14-2010, 02:14 PM
I agree with a fresh join date...new site, new start.

Hannibalzero
09-14-2010, 02:17 PM
I want a starnet date. :suspect:

Hannibalzero
09-14-2010, 02:17 PM
If we can't get join dates, can we at least get some smileys?

pezcore
09-14-2010, 02:19 PM
Put it in your sig or under your screenname if it's that important. Here I'll start.

hotGTO
09-14-2010, 03:30 PM
I know I am not going to win any popularity contest for saying this, but a join date is nothing more than a status symbol, and if all you Star Bellied Sneetches want to keep your stars, feel free... The bottom line is that a join date does not make any guy more knowledgeable than another, it just guarantees he has read a LOT more information. He might be more knowledgeable, but that should not be determined by the date he joined a forum. If someone feels like he needs a specific join date to feel more secure about his position in the "community" it doesn't bother me one bit. You guys all seem like stand up guys, and I am happy to be here and be able to ask for help and offer help any time I can help... If a guy helps me and is a great guy I will respect him no matter what date he has. There are a handful of guys on here that I look forward to getting to know better because they know a LOT, and it shows. Stealthee is an example of someone I have noticed but never really had a chance to talk with about anything, and there are more who I can't think of off top of my head who helped me a few times and I hope to get to know them better too, but it has nothing to do with any join date.

EDIT: "it just guarantees he has read a LOT more information." I am correcting this statement, it's actually not even true... LOL

blindmist
09-14-2010, 03:45 PM
HAHA Star bellied Sneetches

Good one.

hotGTO
09-14-2010, 03:47 PM
Yeah, but now all the newbs on 3si are going to come here and it'd be like we're in Kindergarden with them.. :D

Why are you so insecure? A "newb" on 3si could know way more than you... but either way, everything I said in my previous post is true about the join date being nothing more than a status symbol. The date you joined a forum makes you no better than any other forum user. As much as we ALL want to feel important, if you need to come and log in here to feel that importance then you are hiding some issues, LOL... and as far as the respect goes, we should all earn that respect and offer it to others unless a user does not deserve said respect because of something he has posted. I know that we all don't think like that, but we are all different in a lot of ways.

TwIzTeD_3kGt
09-14-2010, 03:56 PM
Yeah whateva.

green-lantern
09-14-2010, 04:09 PM
If we can't get join dates, can we at least get some smileys?

this lol

Mikes2nd
09-14-2010, 04:09 PM
your name should say it all... not a little date next to your name.

I mean if you want props get a reputation meter. Its much better than a join date.

ntcmpjg
09-14-2010, 04:40 PM
new site new date, I have been a on a couple different forums with different dates, just as long as your username is the same or your sig is the same everyone will know who is who

Polygon
09-14-2010, 04:43 PM
I'm indifferent. I don't really care one way or the other. I would rather have my buyer/seller feedback.

ChargerX3
09-14-2010, 04:50 PM
I feel this thread might be heading in a different direction than anticipated. I could care less about status symbols. This thread is hypothetical in its origin. I can and would argue both sides because both are viable reasons/options. With that said i find myself leaning toward posting up either your "first time using any 3s forum ", or when you purchased your first 3s. I only say this because people come and go here all the time and i would hate to disrespect someone who doesnt use the forums as often as others, but yet has a solid background. I also remember when i was a noob and had no idea who to listen to. Granted join date doesnt mean you know squat, just that you have been around the block.

Polygon
09-14-2010, 04:54 PM
I feel this thread might be heading in a different direction than anticipated. I could care less about status symbols. This thread is hypothetical in its origin. I can and would argue both sides because both are viable reasons/options. With that said i find myself leaning toward posting up either your "first time using any 3s forum ", or when you purchased your first 3s. I only say this because people come and go here all the time and i would hate to disrespect someone who doesnt use the forums as often as others, but yet has a solid background. I also remember when i was a noob and had no idea who to listen to. Granted join date doesnt mean you know squat, just that you have been around the block.

That's a very good point.

Quick VR-4
09-14-2010, 04:58 PM
This makes a lot more sense, than carrying over a join date from another forum...

I agree with this option. No need to carry a join date from another forum, but the length of experience or ownership with these cars makes perfect sense.

MightyMouse
09-14-2010, 05:26 PM
Why are you so insecure? A "newb" on 3si could know way more than you... but either way, everything I said in my previous post is true about the join date being nothing more than a status symbol. The date you joined a forum makes you no better than any other forum user. As much as we ALL want to feel important, if you need to come and log in here to feel that importance then you are hiding some issues, LOL... and as far as the respect goes, we should all earn that respect and offer it to others unless a user does not deserve said respect because of something he has posted. I know that we all don't think like that, but we are all different in a lot of ways.

Because the number of years you've been a 3S member is directly linked to your Dong size..
I was finally up to 10 years, which put my Online Pecker at right around 19"..
Now I'm back to the more realistic size of 3...

onebadmollafolla
09-14-2010, 05:37 PM
No reason really for your old join dates. You didn't join 3SGTO back in 03 or 01. Respect of a member isn't based on their term length on the forum.

stealthee
09-14-2010, 05:52 PM
Pssssh. You're just mad cause you're a newb. :p

tachyon
09-14-2010, 05:54 PM
Even though I recognize a lot of peope now, I have to admit that I don't always remember who's been around and who is just a post whore. I agree with Eric - I give a little more credance to people who have been with the platform a long time, or I may decide that responding to somebody who's new is just going to start an argument. Yeah, we all know the older members who love to argue but at least you're forewarned there! :p

If someone had massive rep (after the change) that counts for as much as longevity, but a lot of us who have been here for years don't have more than a dot or two.

Also, frankly, when I looked at "For Sale" I was a whole lot more comfortable with people who'd been on the board for 3+ years. I've never had a problem working with people who have been on here for 3, 4, or more years. Alas, I can't say the same for 2 and under. Now, I have also had great transactions with newer members - you know who you are! So don't take it as a blanket indictment. Maybe the new verified will take care of that... we can only hope.

Anyway, I voted for keeping the dates. Hell, we're mostly keeping our user names, so let's go whole hog.

fastnelson
09-14-2010, 06:00 PM
we all newbies here do you understand.

CoreyB
09-14-2010, 07:11 PM
I think a lot of you are missing part of the point of this forum. This really is a fresh start for everyone. It doesnt really matter how long you spent on 3si and it says little about the knowledge you have for the platform. Alan has made a point of letting everyone join this forum regardless of past 3si history. If you screw up I am confident you will be gone regardless of years spent on the other side. Not to pick on you at all but take Nelson for example. He was banned from 3si as most of us are aware. I never had any contact with him seeing how I believe he was banned before I joined but read his older threads. He came off as cocky, rude and sometimes just mean. He didnt like to share info about his setups or about what he did to make things work.
So far in the early stages of this forum I have found Nelson to be very willing to attempt regain respect, share his platform knowledge and is very kind to the rest of us. This is all part of the fresh start. I could care less how long you have owned a 3s for (or 3si for that matter lol) or talked BS on another 3s forum. What matters is what you can contribute now to make this the site I think Alan envisions it to be. If you want a reputation as being a all knowing 3s expert then earn it.

VR4
09-14-2010, 07:14 PM
does anyone else miss KE tearing into a newb (or idiot for that matter)?

CoreyB
09-14-2010, 07:17 PM
There will be newbs later. For now we are all newbs/seniors. Is KE on here ?

onebadmollafolla
09-14-2010, 07:27 PM
Pssssh. You're just mad cause you're a newb. :p

3S owner since 04'. Plus I could beat you in a match of physical combat so it wouldn't really matter anyway.

stealthee
09-14-2010, 07:32 PM
I'd beat you mentally before you could touch me physically.

OK that sounded kind of gay. I'll stop right there. :p

onebadmollafolla
09-14-2010, 07:41 PM
I'd beat you mentally before you could touch me physically.



...........ಠ_ಠ

CoreyB
09-14-2010, 07:49 PM
^^How do you do that ^^^ Not super computer savey

NickS VR4
09-14-2010, 09:44 PM
I feel this thread might be heading in a different direction than anticipated. I could care less about status symbols. This thread is hypothetical in its origin. I can and would argue both sides because both are viable reasons/options. With that said i find myself leaning toward posting up either your "first time using any 3s forum ", or when you purchased your first 3s. I only say this because people come and go here all the time and i would hate to disrespect someone who doesnt use the forums as often as others, but yet has a solid background. I also remember when i was a noob and had no idea who to listen to. Granted join date doesnt mean you know squat, just that you have been around the block.

I guess it is more of a respect your elders thing. Granted, not all people will deserve it and do lose it. It's like rank in the military, when I see rank, I respect that person based on the rank. When they open their mouths, thats when I determine from that point if they deserve the respect or not and adjust accordingly.

Polygon
09-14-2010, 09:46 PM
^^How do you do that ^^^ Not super computer savey

The character map.

Jeremy C
09-14-2010, 09:48 PM
since my hiatus of 3Si, anyone who's joined in the past 2 years or so won't even had a clue as to who I am.

stealthee
09-14-2010, 09:51 PM
I dont even know who you are :suspect: <---- even though I know that smiley doesnt work. :p

ChargerX3
09-14-2010, 10:00 PM
I guess it is more of a respect your elders thing. Granted, not all people will deserve it and do lose it. It's like rank in the military, when I see rank, I respect that person based on the rank. When they open their mouths, thats when I determine from that point if they deserve the respect or not and adjust accordingly.

I think we are on the same page.

Jeremy C
09-14-2010, 10:01 PM
Just some random guy. :D

And for some OT - My partner has a hoodie with the MacManus family prayer on the back. She wears it everywhere.

"Now they're staring at six men with guns drawn. It was a fucking ambush."

stealthee
09-14-2010, 10:05 PM
I'm love the Boondock Saints. I've got 3 movie posters for the original movie, a few tshirts, etc. I think I've seen the hoodie you are talking about too.

I almost signed up as Il Duce. That would have confused the hell out of people, especially if I didnt use my sig.

hotGTO
09-14-2010, 10:11 PM
Because the number of years you've been a 3S member is directly linked to your Dong size..
I was finally up to 10 years, which put my Online Pecker at right around 19"..
Now I'm back to the more realistic size of 3...

LMAO! Never admit to less than six! Everyone is always allowed to claim at least six no matter how small they are, It's a gimmie! :D

onebadmollafolla
09-14-2010, 10:41 PM
^^How do you do that ^^^ Not super computer savey

OS X option code: Option+0CA0
Win XP ALT Code: ALT+3232

MR2
09-15-2010, 08:32 AM
Definitely a way to tell how experienced someone is would be a good start... when you first bought your car kinda makes sense

92RT-TT
09-15-2010, 10:11 AM
Yeah when you bought your car would be fine... or even just doing a rep system but only in technical thread sections. That way its not a popularity contest but when someone gives a helpful/good answer you can give them tech rep

Sean Johnson
09-15-2010, 10:23 AM
since my hiatus of 3Si, anyone who's joined in the past 2 years or so won't even had a clue as to who I am.

Who are you? :D

Alan92RTTT
09-15-2010, 10:29 AM
Bit late to the thread.

I can't do join dates with over 1000 members that too big a task.

I have added a field to the profile for "owner Since" I will be adding that to the information displayed under your name.

Alan92RTTT
09-15-2010, 10:30 AM
since my hiatus of 3Si, anyone who's joined in the past 2 years or so won't even had a clue as to who I am.

PFY mark 1

Sean Johnson
09-15-2010, 10:35 AM
Bit late to the thread.

I can't do join dates with over 1000 members that too big a task.

I have added a field to the profile for "owner Since" I will be adding that to the information displayed under your name.

That'll work. Thnx Alan

Bob
09-15-2010, 11:53 AM
I have added a field to the profile for "owner Since" I will be adding that to the information displayed under your name.

Thanks, Alan.

ChargerX3
09-15-2010, 12:31 PM
Bit late to the thread.

I can't do join dates with over 1000 members that too big a task.

I have added a field to the profile for "owner Since" I will be adding that to the information displayed under your name.

Good work. Thanks for the addition.

Hannibalzero
09-15-2010, 12:34 PM
Apparently, 100,000 said that it is not feasible. :lol:

MK_94_3000GT
09-15-2010, 12:36 PM
Hmmm interesting the level of caring over a join date. I could care less. I'm young, I've owned 11 cars and if you dont want to respect me I wont lose sleep over it.

RL7
09-15-2010, 07:05 PM
Yeah when you bought your car would be fine... or even just doing a rep system but only in technical thread sections. That way its not a popularity contest but when someone gives a helpful/good answer you can give them tech rep

I saw at least one forum where only posts in tech sections were counted. I think that could be a little helpful. As far as the join date, I would like to see the old ones, but that's only because I often used it as a quick "stupidity filter" on 3SI. I'm not by any means saying all newer members are like this, but a lot of people like to spout useless and wrong information as gospel and, in general, older members were less likely to do that (actually, if they did they would probably be banned or on GI). This particular problem is not helped by the fact that you can buy one of these cars for $800 and absolutely anyone can use the internet now. In tech sections, it would be nice to have an option to "thumbs down" a post and if the post gets enough of them it could be deleted. It would be fantastic to have a forum with a minimal amount of blatantly incorrect information or advice.

Owner since is a cool idea. Mabye it should be mechanic since....