Spare millions

[enollava]

If only I had a few spare millions of dollars. Down here in SWFL the old Ford Test Track is for sale. Harley owned it last, and now they are selling it to consolidate their testing centers. Anybody know the winning numbers to the next power ball? The place has a high speed strip. It is 2 miles long. Also it has it's own circuit course.

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hopefully you all feel my pain after looking at the above images.

[IPD]

13,000 posts on florida3s, 19 on here. :P

i certainly agree though. if i had the funds (and residual income to support upkeep) i would totally buy it. could very easily use it for drag racing and/or local amateur circuit racing. opening a dragstrip is #2 on my list of retirement ideas; right behind opening the world's largest indoor laser-tag facility.

[AgentOblivious]

13,000 posts on florida3s, 19 on here. :P

i certainly agree though. if i had the funds (and residual income to support upkeep) i would totally buy it. could very easily use it for drag racing and/or local amateur circuit racing. opening a dragstrip is #2 on my list of retirement ideas; right behind opening the world's largest indoor laser-tag facility.

Laser tag is lame....I'd love to get a big shipping warehouse and turn it into an indoor paintball park, you could run so many different setups....and have built in boxes for those that just want to watch. :P

Oh and I'm sure if we all pitched in $100 for freebie runs you'd have a business case for the track.

[enollava]

13,000 posts on florida3s, 19 on here. :P

i certainly agree though. if i had the funds (and residual income to support upkeep) i would totally buy it. could very easily use it for drag racing and/or local amateur circuit racing. opening a dragstrip is #2 on my list of retirement ideas; right behind opening the world's largest indoor laser-tag facility.

Hey hey hey, I only have 11K posts on FL3S. LOL. Plus I haven't been on this site since 2005. I like this site, but FL3S will be my first home since it serves my state specifically. I do check here daily. :) But yeah, I wish I could buy this place. 3SX needs to pick up shop and move down here to FL. I'd promise to bring them my famous pizza at least once a month if they did.

[IPD]

this site didn't exist back in 2005....


Laser tag is lame....I'd love to get a big shipping warehouse and turn it into an indoor paintball park, you could run so many different setups....and have built in boxes for those that just want to watch. :P

Oh and I'm sure if we all pitched in $100 for freebie runs you'd have a business case for the track.

dark armies already exists. and painball isn't "family-friendly". it also sucks when you're tagged out in 30 seconds in a match which lasts 20 minutes.

no...what's needed here is an interactive arena which not only "fires back" and grants powerups; it's also intelligent enough to know that the virtual grenade you just fired took out 3 people. one that allows spectators to drop a quarter in & use wall-mounted laser-turrets (until somebody in the game bullseye's them & puts it out of commission for 3 minutes).

i'd like to see a paintball game try to do 4-team CTF and not have the game completely SUCK after the first 2 minutes.

[enollava]

Stop thinking you are going to turn it into a lasertag park. It is the future home to 3SX and the 3S drag strip/circuit course. :)

[AgentOblivious]

this site didn't exist back in 2005....



dark armies already exists. and painball isn't "family-friendly". it also sucks when you're tagged out in 30 seconds in a match which lasts 20 minutes.

no...what's needed here is an interactive arena which not only "fires back" and grants powerups; it's also intelligent enough to know that the virtual grenade you just fired took out 3 people. one that allows spectators to drop a quarter in & use wall-mounted laser-turrets (until somebody in the game bullseye's them & puts it out of commission for 3 minutes).

i'd like to see a paintball game try to do 4-team CTF and not have the game completely SUCK after the first 2 minutes.

If you're going to do that then go all the way and add augmented reality. Personally though when I think of lasertag I think of fat 12 year olds at a carnival who shoot you after you've killed them 5-6 times already....that being said, a MILES system would kick ass...

[IPD]

If you're going to do that then go all the way and add augmented reality. Personally though when I think of lasertag I think of fat 12 year olds at a carnival who shoot you after you've killed them 5-6 times already....that being said, a MILES system would kick ass...

...that's essentially what i'd be trying to do. ;)

p.s.

even at $100 a pop, you'd never get enough 3/s owner support to buy this track.

[AgentOblivious]

...that's essentially what i'd be trying to do. ;)

p.s.

even at $100 a pop, you'd never get enough 3/s owner support to buy this track.

That sounds better...at first when you said powerups and wall mounted turrets I thought 'oh god only one shade gayer and it'd be ampguard'.

1,828 members -> $1,828,000. Might make a down payment and a business case for owning and renting out the track. Mind you I'm assuming that a couple spare millions isn't say 10 or more (probably is though).

I'm sure you could find enough support on different forums....heck if that thing has a dyno and a strip all the demand from supra owners would pay for the whole thing. :P

[IPD]

it's going to be turned into a housing sub-development. i'd bet on it.

i'm not sure how you'd connect "LARPing" with laser-tag. power-ups are tangible in laser tag. they render you invulnerable to hits, they turn off the lights on your suit, they can give you rapid-fire capability (among many other things).

you must be one of those people whose only experience with laser tag was the $50 kmart-christmas-present variety. my favorite laser-tag facility has a setup which is over 15 years old. just imagine what can be done with newer technology.

[AgentOblivious]

it's going to be turned into a housing sub-development. i'd bet on it.

i'm not sure how you'd connect "LARPing" with laser-tag. power-ups are tangible in laser tag. they render you invulnerable to hits, they turn off the lights on your suit, they can give you rapid-fire capability (among many other things).

you must be one of those people whose only experience with laser tag was the $50 kmart-christmas-present variety. my favorite laser-tag facility has a setup which is over 15 years old. just imagine what can be done with newer technology.

I've been to some laser tag parks. My problem with power ups is that I find it sort of ruins it. Its also why I hate Halo, its so annoying to sneak up, shoot someone, then have to keep shooting and shooting and reload a couple times before they're done, or worse, you end up getting killed. If you're going to do hit counts, health packs, invincibility etc. it gets old fast for anyone but the nerdy kids.

Hence my reference to Ampguard. You can't have a proper swordfight in it because some idiot is going around using his sword like a drumstick to get the number of hits it takes to kill you, and there's spell chucking etc. I think you should keep it real. (Calling in CAS would be awesome on a larger playing surface, and you could probably have scenarios with mounted turrets.)

[enollava]

That sounds better...at first when you said powerups and wall mounted turrets I thought 'oh god only one shade gayer and it'd be ampguard'.

1,828 members -> $1,828,000. Might make a down payment and a business case for owning and renting out the track. Mind you I'm assuming that a couple spare millions isn't say 10 or more (probably is though).

I'm sure you could find enough support on different forums....heck if that thing has a dyno and a strip all the demand from supra owners would pay for the whole thing. :P

Last I recall, they were going to ask 6.5 for it. But somewhere I also heard 2.5. I'd certainly prefer the 2.5. The thing is out in the middle of nowhere. I live far out there, and this is still another 20+ minute drive from my house. So land is cheap out there. It is the infrastructure you are paying for if you buy it, not the land. So if we double the menbers donations to 200 bucks a pop, we got almost 3 million. :) Lets buy it!!! LOL. Too bad you would never get every member to pitch in to buy such a place. I got 1000 bucks I'll put down on it though.

You could probably steal some business from Roush if you had this place. They have a facility here in town and they test drive cars for all the manufacturers. I know somebody who worked for them and they were testing out all the 2012 models and such. He was even lucky enough to test out the new FIAT 500 last year. I hated him for that. So 3SX, with a track, and an automotive road testing contract might be doable. Somebody call them boys up at 3SX and tell them it is moving time.

[IPD]

3sx is in a decent location--already by a speedway. somebody needs to tell pampena to move down there. :D

[AgentOblivious]

Last I recall, they were going to ask 6.5 for it. But somewhere I also heard 2.5. I'd certainly prefer the 2.5. The thing is out in the middle of nowhere. I live far out there, and this is still another 20+ minute drive from my house. So land is cheap out there. It is the infrastructure you are paying for if you buy it, not the land. So if we double the menbers donations to 200 bucks a pop, we got almost 3 million. :) Lets buy it!!! LOL. Too bad you would never get every member to pitch in to buy such a place. I got 1000 bucks I'll put down on it though.

You could probably steal some business from Roush if you had this place. They have a facility here in town and they test drive cars for all the manufacturers. I know somebody who worked for them and they were testing out all the 2012 models and such. He was even lucky enough to test out the new FIAT 500 last year. I hated him for that. So 3SX, with a track, and an automotive road testing contract might be doable. Somebody call them boys up at 3SX and tell them it is moving time.

Someone should do a poll; I'd pitch in $200 and its like a three day drive for me. :P Would make gatherings a lot cheaper too. Jeez 2.5 would be cheap...to think, my dad could probably find that cash somewhere (he already has other plans for it though). I bet if you went around to other forums you'd have it paid 3 times over...

[enollava]

Someone should do a poll; I'd pitch in $200 and its like a three day drive for me. :P Would make gatherings a lot cheaper too. Jeez 2.5 would be cheap...to think, my dad could probably find that cash somewhere (he already has other plans for it though). I bet if you went around to other forums you'd have it paid 3 times over...

The issue would be that I would not want to be responsible for that kind of money when it isn't mine. The accounting of who made donations to the cause and how much would be more than I would be willing to deal with. There are likely legal things needed too for such an action. I would really like to figure out what kind of $ could be generated by a facility like that. You would obviously have sponsors who would pay to have their names on the track, and events would generate money from vendors and tickets sold. Add to that a performance shop similar to the one I keep wishfully thinking would jump on it, could probably make it work. The down side is the insurance costs of operating a track like that. What makes things even more sucky is the only drag strip near me is likely to close cause the airport they are at is being forced by the FAA to over double the monthly rent for space that would otherwise never be used. Most of the businesses that operate out of that airport are actually being forced out by the FAA cause of a requirement to charge more rent. So pretty soon, there will be nowhere local to race. :( The thought makes baby Jesus cry.

[IPD]

it's a systemic problem. we're not supposed to street-race, but the places to legitimately race are being shuttered left & right. kommiefornia's poisonous legislation is seeping to other states as well--soon it will be illegal to own a modified car ANYWHERE.

[AdamVR4]

Laser tag is lame....I'd love to get a big shipping warehouse and turn it into an indoor paintball park, you could run so many different setups....and have built in boxes for those that just want to watch. :P

That actually sounds amazing, and it would be fun to simply observe from an aerial perspective. About how much would you have to charge per player? Is it even remotely feasible?

[IPD]

like i said, dark armies already exists.

http://www.darkarmies.com/dark-armies-strategic-pursuit-entertainment.html

been there, done that. paintball has inherent limitations.

fps's would be equally boring if a 20 minute match was 1-hit-and-you're-out. at least with laser tag, you can regen; which is a much bigger incentive for people. even as a novice, you can get much more ACTUAL playtime in laser tag than in paintball.

[enollava]

like i said, dark armies already exists.

Dark Armies Strategic Pursuit Entertainment - Beyond Paintball in Indianapolis, Indiana IN (http://www.darkarmies.com/dark-armies-strategic-pursuit-entertainment.html)

been there, done that. paintball has inherent limitations.

fps's would be equally boring if a 20 minute match was 1-hit-and-you're-out. at least with laser tag, you can regen; which is a much bigger incentive for people. even as a novice, you can get much more ACTUAL playtime in laser tag than in paintball.

Gotta agree, I would prefer laser tag. I had fun the few times I played it. Plus, you can wear a Tron like suit.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIrgBQPZwIibgxyfeQoi6It0g18okQC 2d4AXS6TwNtj-HrdPzW

[IPD]

^LOL PMSL!

on that note though...olivia wilde looks good. :)

http://www.bscreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/olivia-wilde-tron-legacy.jpg

[DocWalt]

Thadd (that is your name, right? sorry :X) you oughta hit up a Laser Quest. A lot like what you're talking about, but without the turrets and grenades.

[IPD]

Lazer X - Home - Fort Wayne's Premier Laser Tag Facility (http://lazerxfw.com/home.htm)

this one is actually my favorite. what i'd be looking to do is essentially TRIPLE the floor space (or more) and wire the arena to be even more interactive (much more than just three wall sensors that are "mined").

i'd like to section the floorspace with roll-up garage doors; allowing me to "configure" layout on the fly.

...i also have ideas for something "TFC-esque"--where players will be outfitted differently with unique abilities. ;)

[DocWalt]

My local one does different abilities (per player, we can be all teamed up against one player with 20 lives or something silly), but that one is pretty neat looking. Might have to check it out of I'm ever down that way.

[IPD]

...like driving to the NG? ;)

[DocWalt]

Even if I was going to NG, that's not exactly on the way, haha.

[IPD]

hell, it's practically the same drive as indy is from where you're at. :) just road-trip it & overnight it. indy's only 2 hours from ft. wayne....less if you leadfoot it. ;)

[DocWalt]

Haha, if I had the money to spare to get to NG, I'd be there, and I'd be able to go to Lazer X. I would have been able to make it this year if I had kept the VR4 :suspect:

[AgentOblivious]

Wow only 9000 sq. ft for Lazer X? You could definitely do better. Roll up garages are a neat idea, but I think it would be better if you simply build wide open and build temporary walls, similar to the metal framework found in warehouse shelving. You can put it up and take it down quickly, do multiple floors, do wide open battlefields or cqb.

btw, you can have respawn points for paintball too.

[IPD]

my idea is a central open area with ante-chambers on all sides. perhaps something like the doom 2 map: dead simple.

i'd also like to set up "bases" for something like CTF. each base would have a killswitch trigger which could be activated by the other team. activate the trigger and nobody on the team can be "active" (pack turned on, able to shoot) within the boundaries of the base for ~30 seconds; enemy players can enter without harm. attacking players shoot a central target to "charge" their pack (changes the light colors) indicating they have the flag. defending team has to "kill" that player before he/she can return to his/her own base & fire on their own team's "target" to score a flag capture. players only respawn once they are on "home turf" (their side of the field). kills could be assessed for anything from 1-5 hits (approximately)--depending on game type.

setting up a "bombing run" (essentially CTF in reverse) would be easy to do as well.

p.s.

laser tag doesn't require judges, have quarrels about if a hit "counts", etc. ;)