::VOTE:: February 2011 COTM :: All 3/S/GTO's!

[sixsixfour]

February 2011's Car of the Month category is ALL 3/S/GTO's!


skater334
1994 MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/1/1/0/5/garage_vehicle-144-12845695911_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=1105)

Sin'sVr4
1991 MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/6/9/6/garage_vehicle-101-12955436481_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=696)

JohnnyTurbo
1996 MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/1/8/0/garage_vehicle-208-12889087871_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=180)

97Pearl3KGT
1997 MITSUBISHI 3000GT Base
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/1/8/5/2/garage_vehicle-248-12961514351_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=1852)

BigBoris
1996 MITSUBISHI 3000GT Base
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/2/6/3/garage_vehicle-10-12844307611_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=263)


2fnloud
1994 DODGE STEALTH RT Twin Turbo
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/6/2/0/garage_vehicle-226-12916796373_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=620)


jacob666
1994 MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/3/3/8/garage_vehicle-249-12961865024_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=338)


vr4tune
1997 MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/7/3/2/garage_vehicle-190-12894250841_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=732)


DarkMatterM4
1992 MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4
http://www.3sgto.org/images/garage/attach/1/1/9/4/garage_vehicle-209-12889816911_thumb.jpg (http://www.3sgto.org/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=1194)





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Cty

[YoshiBishi]

Very nice cars! No way I'd win an all 3/S COTM competition.

Let me know when you do a Red 1992 VR4 with between 80-90k miles COTM one.

[bluzvr4]

some very good lookin cars in there. looks like if i am ever going to win one of these i have my work cut out for me

[Sin'sVr4]

Damn got some nice ridez in here.

[CoopKill]

Sum goodinssss!

[Sin'sVr4]

coop hopefully u voted for the burgundy goodiness!! ;)

[CoopKill]

coop hopefully u voted for the burgundy goodiness!! ;)
Sorry man I had to take more than color in to account, though it's my fav color!

I've been in Vr4tune's car on a highway pull lighting all 4 up doing a three lane drift!

How can I not vote that beast?




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[Sin'sVr4]

Its cool coop! :)

[Nationalmilkman]

I've been in Vr4tune's car on a highway pull lighting all 4 up doing a three lane drift!

You mean the Viper clone? Lol

[CoopKill]

Not sure I see it?



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[IPD]

2fnloud's car is quite possibly the only non-96 stealth i've ever seen with an OEM-ish 96 banana. i would love to hear how that puppy ended up with one of those coveted things.

[IPD]

well...after much debate, there's three cars this month which i think are deserving. but i have to vote for only one. so i'll pick the one i'd most like to own.

[vr4tune]

Sorry man I had to take more than color in to account, though it's my fav color!

I've been in Vr4tune's car on a highway pull lighting all 4 up doing a three lane drift!

How can I not vote that beast?




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Thanks Bill for the vote. Looks like I will need all the help I can get with all the clean cars entered this month.

[vr4tune]

You mean the Viper clone? Lol

Please explain because I don't understand how its a clone or why you said it in such a negative way?

[Sin'sVr4]

tell me about it

[Chatzvr4]

I had to vote for Sin'sVR4 because the pic in his sig represents ALL 3/S cars (constantly upgrading)

[Sin'sVr4]

I had to vote for Sin'sVR4 because the pic in his sig represents ALL 3/S cars (constantly upgrading)

lol, if that aint the truth then I dont know what is. I have dropped more money and almost been divorced by my wife like 17 times because of this car. Hopefully if I win this will make up for those times and money spent. :) Thanks chatz

[Granny]

Nice representation!
I hate having to pick just one.
Good luck to everyone. :)

[tazman]

Voted!

[vr4tune]

lol, if that aint the truth then I dont know what is. I have dropped more money and almost been divorced by my wife like 17 times because of this car. Hopefully if I win this will make up for those times and money spent. :) Thanks chatz

You and me both. My wife call her the mistress! She likes to threaten the choice between her and our two daughters or the mistress. Because it sucks up all of my free time and cash as I have done all the work to her myself with a little help from a few of my friends. Sin you car has also come a long way Its starting to look real good!

Brett

[Sin'sVr4]

Thanks bro. You too. Im actually thinking I might sell her in the future, a thought that would never ever had crossed my ind back in the day

[IPD]

you're not a true 3/s owner until you've thought about selling it at least once....

[mikeyVR4]

voted...where is my sticker?

[Granny]

you're not a true 3/s owner until you've thought about selling it at least once....

More like parting out...

[BigBoris]

If I could change my vote now, I would make it count lol... Oh well. Good luck guys.

+1 VR4tune for sure.

[vr4tune]

If I could change my vote now, I would make it count lol... Oh well. Good luck guys.

+1 VR4tune for sure.

Thanks bro. I appreciate that a lot. I have been hesitant to put my vr4 up for cotm because in my eyes she is still so far from being done. Thanks everyone for the support.

Granny thanks for the nudge that was what pushed me over the edge to submit.

Brett

[Granny]

Thanks bro. I appreciate that a lot. I have been hesitant to put my vr4 up for cotm because in my eyes she is still so far from being done. Thanks everyone for the support.

Granny thanks for the nudge that was what pushed me over the edge to submit.

Brett

Looks like a close race!

Good luck. :)

[Sin'sVr4]

wow, guys this is gonna be close. GL VR4TUNE!! Whats funny, usually there is like 3-4 cars...not 9!! lol

[BigBoris]

Thanks bro. I appreciate that a lot. I have been hesitant to put my vr4 up for cotm because in my eyes she is still so far from being done. Thanks everyone for the support.

Granny thanks for the nudge that was what pushed me over the edge to submit.

Brett

Yeah for sure, you have a great build.

Well I was hoping that it was going to be easier for me to get in this but I knew even a stock VR4 would get COTM over my N/A... lol

[vr4tune]

wow, guys this is gonna be close. GL VR4TUNE!! Whats funny, usually there is like 3-4 cars...not 9!! lol

Well it was close till this morning when a flood of people voted for you! I'm actually surprised that I've done as well as have so far considering the competition this month. Good luck to you sin.

[Sin'sVr4]

It aint over till my blown turbo smokes ;)

[Atrosity]

Voted ^_^

[IPD]

Yeah for sure, you have a great build.

Well I was hoping that it was going to be easier for me to get in this but I knew even a stock VR4 would get COTM over my N/A... lol

you have no idea. i can personally vouch for how difficult it is. :)

[CoopKill]

Damn Sin! Your vote dot must have NOS! :suspect:

It's the color!:7Up:

[Sin'sVr4]

you get a free set of 9b's when u vote on my button...lol

[IPD]

i wish to retract my vote and put it on the guy giving away billet 16g's. kthxbi!

[vr4tune]

DR billet evo3's are on my short list with a 6g72 billet crank stroking her to a 3.4L. With jspec gear final drive.

[IPD]

DR billet evo3's are on my short list with a 6g72 billet crank stroking her to a 3.4L. With jspec gear final drive.

1. ssm already has billet 16g's available for a good price.

2. wtf would you go to the expense of getting a billet crank and going for 3.4L? you can do that with a stock 74 crank; just ship it to ray. imho, it's not worth the ass-pain expense of the billet crank unless you're going for at LEAST 3.7. and for all that trouble, i'd start with a 74 block and make it a solid 4.0L with an overbore to match.

[BigBoris]

I'm not sure what people are considering when they vote but I don't think they are looking at the details. I think overall yours looks cleaner and has a nice build to. When will they do an N/A only? Hard to compete with a VR4 on a website loaded with VR4 drivers... lol

[IPD]

well the "fwd" month was earlier. but you'd still have had stiff competition against bslade, granny, etc.

do an atx conversion and run again later this year! :D

[vr4tune]

1. ssm already has billet 16g's available for a good price.

2. wtf would you go to the expense of getting a billet crank and going for 3.4L? you can do that with a stock 74 crank; just ship it to ray. imho, it's not worth the ass-pain expense of the billet crank unless you're going for at LEAST 3.7. and for all that trouble, i'd start with a 74 block and make it a solid 4.0L with an overbore to match.

I plan on keeping my original block with a bore and stroke. The billet crank will depend on whether or not my wallet is fat at that moment in time. I like a high rev assembly. light weight weight internals will give me the ability to do that with a little more ease. You right about bang for you buck on a ray modded 74 crank. A 4.0l will be to much piston speed for what I'm looking to do. After all this is my dd street car. Just a personal preference I have. If I was to go a 3.7l or bigger I wouldn't stay tdo5. If I ever went a different route than td05 I pick up a 2nd vr4 and start over and have two 3000gt's

[BigBoris]

Not a chance... I like, wait no I love the thrill of MTX I'll just wait till next year.

[IPD]

i'm gonna have 16g's on my stroker, so i'll let you know how that goes. :)

[Sin'sVr4]

Boris who are you talking about, about looking at the details? Mine is a 91 with 98 front end, 99 headlights, complete engine rebuild (3 times) with all forged internals, IPS 19T's, completely redone fuel setup... rebuilt tranny, interior was tan, now completely custom and rdone, carpet, suede headliner, custom seats, suspension, all poished enginebay, custom paint with blacktop, working rear active aero spoiler...i mean my entire car is redone except the frame...lol So, when you say "I'm not sure what people are considering when they vote but I don't think they are looking at the details." I think thats kind of a pretty condesending remark. If you dont know about what has been done and the time and money spent on peoples cars, then I wouldnt say comments like that. JMO

Mike


Thanks guys for all the support Ive recieved so far. You guys are awesome!! ;)

[BigBoris]

Boris who are you talking about, about looking at the details? Mine is a 91 with 98 front end, 99 headlights, complete engine rebuild (3 times) with all forged internals, IPS 19T's, completely redone fuel setup... rebuilt tranny, interior was tan, now completely custom and rdone, carpet, suede headliner, custom seats, suspension, all poished enginebay, custom paint with blacktop, working rear active aero spoiler...i mean my entire car is redone except the frame...lol So, when you say "I'm not sure what people are considering when they vote but I don't think they are looking at the details." I think thats kind of a pretty condesending remark. If you dont know about what has been done and the time and money spent on peoples cars, then I wouldnt say comments like that. JMO

Mike


Thanks guys for all the support Ive recieved so far. You guys are awesome!! ;)

Oh hey sorry man, i wasn't dogging you out. I was looking at everyone that voted against you and vr4. I wasted my vote. you two did the most work to your cars.

[Sin'sVr4]

Oh hey sorry man, i wasn't dogging you out. I was looking at everyone that voted against you and vr4. I wasted my vote. you two did the most work to your cars.

np. ;) Just kinda sounded differently to me at first.

[JohnnyTurbo]

Oh hey sorry man, i wasn't dogging you out. I was looking at everyone that voted against you and vr4. I wasted my vote. you two did the most work to your cars.To say that, then you are not reading the details of others! 96 with 99 front, 99 sails, 99 lights, tan interior changed totally to black, P&P heads, all forged internals, thermo & slick coated, billet rods, cams, all aluminum is polished, brake lines removed from sight, firewall cleaned off, filled and painted, 15G turbos, AEM EMS, Billet aluminum interior trim, 6 DEFI gauges with twin pilar pods, DVD, CD, GPS, Satellite radio, 5.1 surround sound system, CIANCI widebody fenders, Cianci Victory hood, BMF intercooler, 3SX ALum radiator, TEIN coilovers, IPS tuned, active aero works & the list goes on. :rant:

I feel better now.

[Sin'sVr4]

Johnny sick ass car btw bud. awesome

[IPD]

To say that, then you are not reading the details of others! 96 with 99 front, 99 sails, 99 lights, tan interior changed totally to black, P&P heads, all forged internals, thermo & slick coated, billet rods, cams, all aluminum is polished, brake lines removed from sight, firewall cleaned off, filled and painted, 15G turbos, AEM EMS, Billet aluminum interior trim, 6 DEFI gauges with twin pilar pods, DVD, CD, GPS, Satellite radio, 5.1 surround sound system, CIANCI widebody fenders, Cianci Victory hood, BMF intercooler, 3SX ALum radiator, TEIN coilovers, IPS tuned, active aero works & the list goes on. :rant:

I feel better now.

i didn't win either:

fwd-tt conversion
awd-atx conversion
97 front conversion
99 lights
2g r/t rear conversion
3sx radiator
msd wires
polished plenum & front valve cover
fiberglass hood
volk gt-c wheels
pioneer TS-D speaker swap & panasonic head unit; jbl220gto speakers
3g steering wheel conversion
aftermarket shift knob
pilot pedal covers
custom r/t garnish with reverse lights
3" SS exhaust
safc2
autometer boost gauge/pod
dash-mat
painted wiper cowl

...shall i continue?

[Sin'sVr4]

We all put our heart and souls in these cars. there s a before and after picture of my car with stock flip ups, and when i first went FMIC to what she is now.

Damn perfect, you got some serious $$$ in urs too!

[vr4tune]

Johnny I am so shocked at the low number of votes you have received so far. Your car is beautiful in all departments bro. I had that as my wallpaper for months back in 2006. All you need are dr750's to complete the build. 15g's are under done on your car! Keep her clean.

[IPD]

well i'm not trying to piss on anyone's cheerios; i just wanted to point out that "he who has the most mods" doesn't always win. yes, i have a fair amount of coin in my car, even though it is--essentially--a stock atx vr4 with some additional modifications. it's both amusing and frightening that my car is worth currently worth 4x what it would be if it was stock. i hope that i don't piss myself after it's done with the new build; and it ends up being worth 10x what the stocker is.

to any and ALL who aren't "in the running"; don't sweat it too much. there's a LOT of cars up this month and several really good entries. my car lost in a month with 1/3rd as many contestants, and i still got last-place; finishing behind an UNFINISHED n/a. so yes, i share your pains--but don't let it keep you down.

[vr4tune]

We all put our heart and souls in these cars. there s a before and after picture of my car with stock flip ups, and when i first went FMIC to what she is now.

Damn perfect, you got some serious $$$ in urs too!

I here ya, my car was bone stock when I bought her. Here is my car after owning her for 3 months and moded to bpu.
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss357/vr4tune/cellphone021.jpg
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss357/vr4tune/cellphone026.jpg
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss357/vr4tune/cellphone023.jpg
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss357/vr4tune/cellphone092.jpg

[IPD]

is it wrong of me to say i liked your stock hood better?

[vr4tune]

is it wrong of me to say i liked your stock hood better?
Not at all. If well all had the same tast cotm would be boring. In fact I still have it. But now I would look odd to me with the current scheme. Not to mention the weight difference.

[IPD]

i just think your stocker looked DAMN sexy in that last pic. :)

i like the idea behind your paint, i just think i would have done it slightly different. i would have painted the center of the bumper (and the post) black & done a solid, massive black stripe all the way down the center of the car. it would line up with the edges of the center opening on the front, the ridges on the hood, the edges of the sunroof, and the hatch. i don't think i've ever seen anyone paint one that way--but i think it would look pretty spiffy.

[vr4tune]

That last pic is one of those magic shots that you can't ever replicate no matter how hard you try. The shadows from an early sun set gave it a blue shadow. The angle make the car look super wide, and with nothing else in the background to distract your eyes makes it perfect. One of the best photos I have ever taken of her. Inperfectdarkness I don't know if you notice but the stock 97 bumper isn't on my car anymore. Sometimes I do miss her stock body.

[IPD]

yeah...it just doesn't look the same. that's what i love about sin's car (and why i did the same with mine). run 99 lights on a 97 bumper. the only downside to this is the fugly rubber that goes on the bumper. i'm working on that one though. ;)

[93STLTH]

I'm gonna go against the grain here and vote for the best looking car. Someone has to carry the torch for the show car fans.

[Sin'sVr4]

I'm gonna go against the grain here and vote for the best looking car. Someone has to carry the torch for the show car fans.

who did you pick then?

[JohnnyTurbo]

to any and ALL who aren't "in the running"; don't sweat it too much. there's a LOT of cars up this month and several really good entries. my car lost in a month with 1/3rd as many contestants, and i still got last-place; finishing behind an UNFINISHED n/a. so yes, i share your pains--but don't let it keep you down.Don't get me wrong, I have no delusions on what the COTM here or the ROTM over on 3SI is and have no issues not getting the popular vote because that is not what I'm on car forums for. I entered this month because I saw a post from Christy trying to drum up entries close to the deadline and didn't want her to get a month with no entries. I'd prefer to be in a 3 to 5 car poll and wouldn't have entered it I knew there was going to be 8 others. What struck a nerve for me was the "you two have done the most" line.


Johnny I am so shocked at the low number of votes you have received so far. Your car is beautiful in all departments bro. I had that as my wallpaper for months back in 2006. All you need are dr750's to complete the build. 15g's are under done on your car! Keep her clean.

My engine was built to take big turbos but scaled down to give longevity. With 400HP to 4 wheels at 14 psi, nothing is getting strained and should last a long time. I was going to go the 19T route or even bigger, but decided that would end the reliability that I enjoy now and 15Gs in this car is still really fast on the local streets. Now the urge to go fast on the track is a different story and not wanting to take the risk of damaging my VR4, I bought the B1 Bomber Stealth for such activities. DR1000s and all the supporting mods in a lightened car painted a COTM/ROTM color should be a serious contender.:D
FIrst peek at the new project.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2325/b1engine.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8246/b1engine02.jpg
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9838/b1engine03.jpg
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/2773/b1intercooler.jpg

[BigBoris]

Well, you're right. Maybe I shouldn't have said they had done the most. Everyone here including myself has done something to there car and deserves equal recognition. To be honest I just joined this to test the water. I'm not sure how people make there votes. This will most definitely be the last time I enter for COTM. Even after I get it painted and redone, its just not my cup of tea. Only competing I would like to do is on the race track. Good luck to everyone and now that I have actually looked at all the contestants cars I don't understand why the votes aren't balanced out a bit more everyone has something or another that stands out as exceptional and adds to an overall fantastic project.

Some of us bust our own knuckles and some of us pay others to do the knuckle busting to keep these cars running...

[IPD]

Well, you're right. Maybe I shouldn't have said they had done the most. Everyone here including myself has done something to there car and deserves equal recognition. To be honest I just joined this to test the water. I'm not sure how people make there votes. This will most definitely be the last time I enter for COTM. Even after I get it painted and redone, its just not my cup of tea. Only competing I would like to do is on the race track. Good luck to everyone and now that I have actually looked at all the contestants cars I don't understand why the votes aren't balanced out a bit more everyone has something or another that stands out as exceptional and adds to an overall fantastic project.

Some of us bust our own knuckles and some of us pay others to do the knuckle busting to keep these cars running...

and you've summed up in a nutshell what i had against another 3/s member (who i'm not going to name). imho, buying it pre-modded in mint condition doesn't deserve accolades. if someone like bslade or sin'svr4 were to sell their cars to someone else & that person put the car up for ROTM, it would no longer receive my vote. even if you're still "paying" to have the work done for yourself; i have more respect if it's a project of your own volition, rather than the handiwork of someone else.

again though, that's just my opinion; that & $5 will get you a starbucks latte.

p.s.

johnny, if my car goes up for the 500+hp month, it looks like it will have some competition. :)

[Sin'sVr4]

Ya perfect and johnny i hear ya. I have done so much to this car it actually makes me sick, at what I could've bought with the $$ spent on her. But, I love my car and get nothing but respect for the tasteful job. No eccentric stuff on my car . I think everyone deserves accolades who has the nuts to even enter a COTM. I had no idea this many votes would come my way. I have alot of supporters and followers of my car from the beggining to where it is now. Ihave had soooooo many problems and maybe they r sympothy votes :) Thanks guys tho for the support.

btw sick looking build on that race car ;)

[IPD]

sin, in the 8 years of ownership, i've put 100k on my car (which as i said is essentially stock vr4....NOW) and in return, it has cost me ~30k worth of reciepts. :)

[2fnloud]

2fnloud's car is quite possibly the only non-96 stealth i've ever seen with an OEM-ish 96 banana. i would love to hear how that puppy ended up with one of those coveted things.

Pure luck, a member on the "other" site had it for sale, it was "dibbed" by Cianci so he could make more. I sent PM'd to the seller how I would take it if Cianci backed out. I PM'd Ciance how I wanted to buy that once once a mold was made. Well I received a PM from the seller stating that he hasn't heard back from Cianci, so he sold it to me.


You and me both. My wife call her the mistress! She likes to threaten the choice between her and our two daughters or the mistress. Because it sucks up all of my free time and cash as I have done all the work to her myself with a little help from a few of my friends. Sin you car has also come a long way Its starting to look real good!

Brett

I know this tune all too well, my wife likes to joke how she knows where the mistress lives and if she gets too pissed off by her, she'll just burn down the garage. Of course she wouldn't really do that....I think ;)


and you've summed up in a nutshell what i had against another 3/s member (who i'm not going to name). imho, buying it pre-modded in mint condition doesn't deserve accolades. if someone like bslade or sin'svr4 were to sell their cars to someone else & that person put the car up for ROTM, it would no longer receive my vote. even if you're still "paying" to have the work done for yourself; i have more respect if it's a project of your own volition, rather than the handiwork of someone else.

again though, that's just my opinion; that & $5 will get you a starbucks latte.

p.s.

johnny, if my car goes up for the 500+hp month, it looks like it will have some competition. :)

This is the one thing that I wish I could say that I was responsible for but can not, at least yet anyway, I didn't buy the car because it was Hennessey tuned, I bought it because it only had 24,xxx miles on the car. I also don't get full of myself because the car is Hennessey tuned, there are many members here that have achieved way more then Hennessey Motorsports ever accomplished with the platform.

Inperfect, I didn't take this as a slam against me....at least I hope it wasn't, but I do fit that mild for right now, hopefully my attitude has never reflected it.

[JohnnyTurbo]

sin, in the 8 years of ownership, i've put 100k on my car (which as i said is essentially stock vr4....NOW) and in return, it has cost me ~30k worth of reciepts. :)Just so I understand what you are saying, (I think I do), you have driven your car 100,000 miles in 8 years and it has cost you $30,000 to do that. If that is correct, does that include original purchase price?

[IPD]

Pure luck, a member on the "other" site had it for sale, it was "dibbed" by Cianci so he could make more. I sent PM'd to the seller how I would take it if Cianci backed out. I PM'd Ciance how I wanted to buy that once once a mold was made. Well I received a PM from the seller stating that he hasn't heard back from Cianci, so he sold it to me.

This is the one thing that I wish I could say that I was responsible for but can not, at least yet anyway, I didn't buy the car because it was Hennessey tuned, I bought it because it only had 24,xxx miles on the car. I also don't get full of myself because the car is Hennessey tuned, there are many members here that have achieved way more then Hennessey Motorsports ever accomplished with the platform.

Inperfect, I didn't take this as a slam against me....at least I hope it wasn't, but I do fit that mild for right now, hopefully my attitude has never reflected it.

i think you're cool as hell--and if i see you at the NG, i'ma buy you a beer. :) in fact, most of the people i know who bought their cars "intact" are actually pretty humble about it. there was a certain someone who previously had a 99-converted vr4 who was pretty snotty about it though. ;) it's a nice car, but i don't think he should have gotten ROTM. the 3/s community takes all kinds. i've seen owners who had the shittiest 3/s imaginable, but they were awesome as a person & fun to hang with. i've seen others who had the nicest 3/s's and were uppity as fuck.


Just so I understand what you are saying, (I think I do), you have driven your car 100,000 miles in 8 years and it has cost you $30,000 to do that. If that is correct, does that include original purchase price?

let's see if i can remember:

purchase price $6,000
transmission rebuild $2500
fiberglass hood $500
4 sets of tires (JUST purchased my latest set) $3600 ($600, $600, $1200, $1200)
3x brake jobs (including the tt-swap i just did to the front) $1000 (guess)
a/c compressor, clutch and blower (guess) $2000
alternator & 2 batteries $1000
2x 60k service $3200
volk wheels $2600
complete exhaust x2 (one for n/a/tt, one for after AWD) $600
tt-motor swap $5,000
harmonic balancer $500
awd conversion $4,000

i'm lost...how much is that so far?

also had the sunroof repaired, remote-start installed, countless oil changes, over 6 trans flushes, numerous coolant flushes, and a lot of "minor" mods that have probably nickel & dimed me to another grand or so.

:D

[JohnnyTurbo]

...btw sick looking build on that race car ;)Thanks. The car is in pieces now. There are things that I do not like and will redo to my vision. The short block is on the east coast now waiting to get finished up and shipped to me. I have most of the bolt on pieces in place for when it arrives and hope to start on it when the weather stays above the high 40s. This is the car I want to take to Indy this year and it will be crunch time from the break in weather to the tune right before trailering it to NG11. I have to do a complete interior, some rewiring and hopfully a paint job. I haven't painted in over 20 years and the material prices have given me sticker shock, but I will overcome that. At worst, It will be there wearing hotrod black primer.


p.s.
johnny, if my car goes up for the 500+hp month, it looks like it will have some competition. :) I had to go back to see which month was the 500+ one. I hope it is still running by then to be eligible. As I said, this one is the beast, not the pretty white VR4. Its main purpose in life is to be evil, mean, wicked and nasty. With all the pieces and parts in place 500 hp will be the 80% mark on pump gas. If it doesn't, then I'll have spent a lot of time and money for nothing. IPS tunes my VR4 and depending on Time left to NG11, money left and getting over my dislike for the NYC area of the world, I might see about getting the tune done by a guy at a little shop on Long Island instead of down in Columbus.:w00t: I hear he has done one or two of these cars and has had somewhat of a success rate on inducing HP out of a six-banger.:biggrin:

[CoopKill]

$7,500 (vr4/rt-tt) + $15,000 (mods for 500+ awhp) = $22,500 + $7,500 (to look purple) = $30,000:sorry:

[IPD]

yep..

[BigBoris]

i think you're cool as hell--and if i see you at the NG, i'ma buy you a beer. :) in fact, most of the people i know who bought their cars "intact" are actually pretty humble about it. there was a certain someone who previously had a 99-converted vr4 who was pretty snotty about it though. ;) it's a nice car, but i don't think he should have gotten ROTM. the 3/s community takes all kinds. i've seen owners who had the shittiest 3/s imaginable, but they were awesome as a person & fun to hang with. i've seen others who had the nicest 3/s's and were uppity as fuck.



let's see if i can remember:

purchase price $6,000
transmission rebuild $2500
fiberglass hood $500
4 sets of tires (JUST purchased my latest set) $3600 ($600, $600, $1200, $1200)
3x brake jobs (including the tt-swap i just did to the front) $1000 (guess)
a/c compressor, clutch and blower (guess) $2000
alternator & 2 batteries $1000
2x 60k service $3200
volk wheels $2600
complete exhaust x2 (one for n/a/tt, one for after AWD) $600
tt-motor swap $5,000
harmonic balancer $500
awd conversion $4,000

i'm lost...how much is that so far?

also had the sunroof repaired, remote-start installed, countless oil changes, over 6 trans flushes, numerous coolant flushes, and a lot of "minor" mods that have probably nickel & dimed me to another grand or so.

:D

You just don't know how to shop... waste money... $1000 for one alternator and 2 batterys? damn... a HO alt $400 bucks deep cycle bat no more then $200 almost anywhere you go. 60k service shouldn't be more then 600 bucks so x2 1200. ac compressor was brand new OEM? Do you go to Mitsubishi service for all this? Damn man. Transmission rebuild with all oem parts? or performance mods? I feel bad for you man. If you live in SoCal hit me up any time man i can get you taken care of at a much loser cost.

[BigBoris]

So i was looking at the votes, funny that the two base models are at the bottom. I bet I could beat 3/4 of the VR4's up there in a mountain road race.

[IPD]

i have had a lot of services done at the dealership. at the time, most of that was without any quality 3/s mechanics within a 200 mile radius or more (except for the one dude at the dealership whom i trusted implicitly). on the other hand, my car has been extremely reliable for years; and i can't say the same for many other cars out there--so perhaps it's not all a waste?


So i was looking at the votes, funny that the two base models are at the bottom. I bet I could beat 3/4 of the VR4's up there in a mountain road race.

you should just stop now. seriously. if you want to talk smack on a road course; then go to a road course. come to the NG and strut your stuff. this isn't a "who is fastest, who talks the most smack, who drives the best" thread. it's a ROTM thread.

[BigBoris]

i have had a lot of services done at the dealership. at the time, most of that was without any quality 3/s mechanics within a 200 mile radius or more (except for the one dude at the dealership whom i trusted implicitly). on the other hand, my car has been extremely reliable for years; and i can't say the same for many other cars out there--so perhaps it's not all a waste?

Could be true, if you got what you paid for with reliability above all else then I guess thats a good thing. Hard to find reliable with these cars... Although we are all using a 20 year old platform lol...


you should just stop now. seriously. if you want to talk smack on a road course; then go to a road course. come to the NG and strut your stuff. this isn't a "who is fastest, who talks the most smack, who drives the best" thread. it's a ROTM thread.

Haha, easy tiger... I know what this tread is, its COTM haha... I got threw reading comprehension. lmfao... on the other hand where is NG?

[2fnloud]

NG11 is in Indy

[Sin'sVr4]

So i was looking at the votes, funny that the two base models are at the bottom. I bet I could beat 3/4 of the VR4's up there in a mountain road race.

haha. bring it big boieeee!! lmao. That made my day. This is car of the month, not comment of the month, u'd win hands down with that one buddy.

[IPD]

Haha, easy tiger... I know what this tread is, its COTM haha... I got threw reading comprehension. lmfao... on the other hand where is NG?

just for the sake of argument though:

fastest: snakeskinner
best driver: supercar, erron, highboosted, or pete
most blingy: duTTch/spydergirl--by a country mile. linchpinjoe is a respectable 2nd.
most $$$ spent: nelson--by 2 country miles
most smack: kenneth ellis, eljefefx (oh wait...you meant about their actual CARS....)
most futile spending on a 3/s: 1st--the guy who dropped 60k at GT-PRO. 2nd is me.

this list could probably go on for a while.

[Sin'sVr4]

just for the sake of argument though:

fastest: snakeskinner
best driver: supercar, erron, highboosted, or pete
most blingy: duTTch/spydergirl--by a country mile. linchpinjoe is a respectable 2nd.
most $$$ spent: nelson--by 2 country miles
most smack: kenneth ellis, eljefefx (oh wait...you meant about their actual CARS....)
most futile spending on a 3/s: 1st--the guy who dropped 60k at GT-PRO. 2nd is me.

this list could probably go on for a while.

I should be close to the to pof the list with 3 engine builds. :sulk2:

[IPD]

(hug) we should drown our sorrows over a nice chilled fresca.

[Sin'sVr4]

dont u wanta, dont u wanta fanta? http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h116/mikepeterson/fanta.jpg lol

[JohnnyTurbo]

I should be close to the to pof the list with 3 engine builds.pof=top? Could be, I know from reading that Hillbillyhomeboy said he had over $100k in his car when he sold it back in early 2008 for $20,000. I personally know of another 3S that had just over $100K spent on it over 9 years including 3 blown engines and sold for 15¢ on the dollar. So I'm guessing that there are many others yet unheard from out there that dumped in similar amounts into a 3S blackhole.



i have had a lot of services done at the dealership. at the time, most of that was without any quality 3/s mechanics within a 200 mile radius or more (except for the one dude at the dealership whom i trusted implicitly). on the other hand, my car has been extremely reliable for years; and i can't say the same for many other cars out there--so perhaps it's not all a waste?



you should just stop now. seriously. if you want to talk smack on a road course; then go to a road course. come to the NG and strut your stuff. this isn't a "who is fastest, who talks the most smack, who drives the best" thread. it's a ROTM thread.Yeah, I'm with IPD here, quit while ahead. During driver's school at NG08, track day at NG08 and Track day at NG10 the NA cars on the road course was like getting behind a school bus. I was hitting 115+ on the short bumpy back straight at Indy and 140 on the main straight and I know there were no NAs doing close to that. A road course is an all out power indicator as opposed to the autocross where driver skill in maneuvering, responsiveness of the car to driver feedback allows lesser cars to beat more powerful cars.

On any given sunday, my stepson in his modded '04 Cavalier would beat a variety of C5 and C6 corvettes and their driver's. He did not have enough power to overpower the course, his car was set up to the max for handling (as much as a Cavalier can be) and the over cocky Corvette drivers would overpower the course and didn't have a clue as how to drive an autocross. The result was Cavalier - 1, Corvette - 0. A 140 HP Cavalier with springs, swaybars, adjustable shocks on a set of 18" Kuhmos beat regular C 5 & 6 vettes with more than twice the HP. This same senario is what allows Suthunr to beat the turbo cars at NG autocrosses. He can drive and his car can't overpower the course = winning combo.

[IPD]

i think the reference you're looking for is "like a group of elementary-school kids on a roller-skating rink"

i also think that auto-x favors light weight; so it's almost a double whammy. but, like someone's sig once read:

"let's race auto-x = "my car is too slow for drag racing and not properly built to handle a real road course, so let's dodge cones in the k-mart parking lot.""

[Sin'sVr4]

hahaha IPD thats some funny shit right thar!

[JohnnyTurbo]

...i also think that auto-x favors light weight; so it's almost a double whammy. but, like someone's sig once read:

"let's race auto-x = "my car is too slow for drag racing and not properly built to handle a real road course, so let's dodge cones in the k-mart parking lot.""First part is correct. weight to hp being equal in both, a lighter car will beat a heavier car everytime where on paper they would seem to be equal. The reason being something called transitions. The laws of physics comes into play when you try to switch directions rapidly. With more mass, it takes more time to slow down and make the transition to the new direction. The lighter car can do it more quickly and is more nimble where the heavier car seems to lumber through the course. Example seen all the time: a supercharged Miata will beat out a heavier Corvette given both have the same weight to HP ratio and are driven by the same driver over the same course.

Last part was written by someone who doesn't have a clue about autocrossing.
A lot of autox guys simply switch tires to go on a road course.

[BigBoris]

First part is correct. weight to hp being equal in both, a lighter car will beat a heavier car everytime where on paper they would seem to be equal. The reason being something called transitions. The laws of physics comes into play when you try to switch directions rapidly. With more mass, it takes more time to slow down and make the transition to the new direction. The lighter car can do it more quickly and is more nimble where the heavier car seems to lumber through the course. Example seen all the time: a supercharged Miata will beat out a heavier Corvette given both have the same weight to HP ratio and are driven by the same driver over the same course.

Last part was written by someone who doesn't have a clue about autocrossing.
A lot of autox guys simply switch tires to go on a road course.

It's the wing, everyone thinks it means I'm a fan of Fast and Furious. None of my other cars had a wing, this one had it on when I bought it.

Now, sad thing here is nearly everyone with a VR4 spends most of the time trying to compare Dyno chart numbers like it means something. Even in drag racing a 600HP car can lose to a 400HP car. It's not just about being a good driver and response time. It's about weight to HP, having your suspension tuned for front to rear weight transfer, tire compound, tire pressure and everything in between.

In a road course its a bit more then that. But I'm not going to waste my time explaining my experience to these guys that clearly have no concept of road courses vs 1/4 mile and dyno charts. Keep in mind, this isn't my first car and I'm not 17...

[IPD]

...it's also about AWD vs. FWD or RWD.

...but yes, you should delete the wing. :)

[BigBoris]

...it's also about AWD vs. FWD or RWD.

...but yes, you should delete the wing. :)

Right about AWD/FWD/RWD but AWD only has the launch advantage given that the driver isn't a dumb ass.

[IPD]

your point was that a lot of variables come into play to determine which of any two given cars would win in a certain type of race. i agree.

my argument would be that i want a car i'm comfortable taking on a 2,000 mile road-trip tomorrow; and i'm willing to sacrifice some performance to have that.

if yours can beat mine, that's great. at least my teeth won't be chattering and hemorrhoids developing when i drive home from NG.

[BigBoris]

your point was that a lot of variables come into play to determine which of any two given cars would win in a certain type of race. i agree.

my argument would be that i want a car i'm comfortable taking on a 2,000 mile road-trip tomorrow; and i'm willing to sacrifice some performance to have that.

if yours can beat mine, that's great. at least my teeth won't be chattering and hemorrhoids developing when i drive home from NG.

Yeah, very true. My car is on verge of being a horrible daily driver...

[Sin'sVr4]

I am not debating wether or not someones car can beat mine on a road course, or drag or windy mountain road. Honestly, it is all preference which direction you want to take your car or skill set. I used to drift my 1990 240sx when I lived in hawaii and it was a blast. would kill it around the pali and likelike. But, one day took her to the drags and she was sooooo slow 15.4 consistently, that I transistioned to a 5.0 mustang GT. Loved that car, but sold her and moved to motor cross. (this was when I was 19. ) but, Boris, you will probably beat me in a road course until I get the hang of it ;) i would like to think that I am an exceptional driver ( in my eyes anyways ;)) and i grew up in rhode island driving in the snow and thats how I learned to drift. Now im in colorado and my kids love when i drive at a 45 degree angle down the back roads to our house. I dont think im a better driver than anyone else. I just thought your ccomment about u flipping a car was classic thats all. Sry to ruffle the autox vs drag feathers. :)

Mike

[BigBoris]

I am not debating wether or not someones car can beat mine on a road course, or drag or windy mountain road. Honestly, it is all preference which direction you want to take your car or skill set. I used to drift my 1990 240sx when I lived in hawaii and it was a blast. would kill it around the pali and likelike. But, one day took her to the drags and she was sooooo slow 15.4 consistently, that I transistioned to a 5.0 mustang GT. Loved that car, but sold her and moved to motor cross. (this was when I was 19. ) but, Boris, you will probably beat me in a road course until I get the hang of it ;) i would like to think that I am an exceptional driver ( in my eyes anyways ;)) and i grew up in rhode island driving in the snow and thats how I learned to drift. Now im in colorado and my kids love when i drive at a 45 degree angle down the back roads to our house. I dont think im a better driver than anyone else. I just thought your ccomment about u flipping a car was classic thats all. Sry to ruffle the autox vs drag feathers. :)

Mike

It's all good man, I just hate how people automatically clown on my car because of the wing then clown on my thinking I don't know anything about driving and I'm some kind of film hype. I love motor sports of all kinds, I may end up going baja 500 as my next project. I have no preference and don't discriminate against any motor sport. Glad you're able to have fun with your kids when driving, at least they aren't scared and that makes it fun for you I'm sure.

[2fnloud]

i think you're cool as hell--and if i see you at the NG, i'ma buy you a beer. :) in fact, most of the people i know who bought their cars "intact" are actually pretty humble about it. there was a certain someone who previously had a 99-converted vr4 who was pretty snotty about it though. ;) it's a nice car, but i don't think he should have gotten ROTM. the 3/s community takes all kinds. i've seen owners who had the shittiest 3/s imaginable, but they were awesome as a person & fun to hang with. i've seen others who had the nicest 3/s's and were uppity as fuck.

I have NEVER turned down a free beer. matter of fact it is my favorite kind.

[BigBoris]

I have NEVER turned down a free beer. matter of fact it is my favorite kind.

Hell yeah! I'm game for a beer! haha:w00t:

[2fnloud]

Hell yeah! I'm game for a beer! haha:w00t:

You wasn't invited :-P

[Sin'sVr4]

haha. now now....this is a fun post for cotm, not for who's not invited for some brews. lol

[IPD]

maybe it has nothing to do with the cars. maybe people just like fuchsia. :suspect:

[tazman]

haha. now now....this is a fun post for cotm, not for who's not invited for some brews. lol

Congrats!

[Granny]

You wasn't invited :-P

Can I come?

[2fnloud]

Absolutely!

[Granny]

Absolutely!

:boobs: Yea!

[CoopKill]

http://www.beerbottlecollector.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/beer-drool.gif

[IPD]

:boobs: Yea!

yes, fortunately i don't have a problem with liquoring up my lady friends. :)

[CoopKill]

yes, fortunately i don't have a problem with liquoring up my lady friends. :)

Be careful here Granny!

They make green, pale, amber, dark, blonde, They do not make purple beer! This could be a setup....


:lmao:

[CoopKill]

Congrats Sin!

[IPD]

Be careful here Granny!

They make green, pale, amber, dark, blonde, They do not make purple beer! This could be a setup....


:lmao:


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p.s.

congrats to all who ran, and special congrats to SIN!!!

[CoopKill]

I so would drink that! Looks more like blackberry cordial though.

Man, what would your teeth look like after that?

[Sin'sVr4]

Thanks guys and to all who voted for me. Definitly didnt think id have this much support. Thanks again everyone.

Mike