Roof spoiler

[Unknownvr4]

Just throwing an idea out there..

something like this:
http://www.origin-lab.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/RoofW-S141.jpg
http://www.maxspeed-motorsport.com/catalog/images/gp%20sport%2001.jpg
I think it would look pretty good on our cars

[CoopKill]

I'm thinkin that they would destablize the air headed to the rear spoiler, but i'm no genius!

[Maximal]

Hmm...wonder how that would look on a 3S...the roofline is pretty "smooth" on a 3S so I'm not sure if this would throw it off or not. Where's the photoshop experts?

[NeedmorboosT]

+1 this wouldn't be a bad idea IMO

[Austin@STM]

If it was to work, someone would have to make it 3S specific so that it matched the lines of the roof, not just a generic/universal one.

[Atrosity]

http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq299/natkemp69/Supra%20TT/SUNP0050.jpg

maybe something like this?

[Austin@STM]

^minus big f'in wing on the hatch

[Unknownvr4]

Yea that one looks good

[boosted3s]

I have always had this same question, if it would look good on a 3S. I think it would add a nice touch to us wingless cars. If it does and the price is right I'd buy one for sure.

[boosted3s]

I'd actually like something a little smaller than is on the supra. More like the S14.

[Atrosity]

^minus big f'in wing on the hatch

You know what they say about wing!? :wink: :icon23:

[x2percentmilk]

give me a couple minutes ;)

[x2percentmilk]

sorry to the owners of the vehicles, just needed an image that would work. and these are just to get a gist, itll probably still look good on a second gen, would fit the aggressiveness of a 99 probably too. if anyone supplies good pictures i can see what else i can do.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps1.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps2.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps3.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps4.jpg

[Unknownvr4]

Try it on this one. I think I have a nice angle on it.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/3000GT_drivr/DSC02264.jpg

[FeaRpb]

Posting for later viewing.

[Maximal]

I think that'd look pretty sweet actually.

[boosted3s]

sorry to the owners of the vehicles, just needed an image that would work. and these are just to get a gist, itll probably still look good on a second gen, would fit the aggressiveness of a 99 probably too. if anyone supplies good pictures i can see what else i can do.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps3.jpg


If this one was made I would buy it. I like how this one is lower than the second and it looks sick color matched.

[Unknownvr4]

Posted this thread link to Lat42 to see if he'd make them.

[lat42MS]

First of all, thank you unknown for bringing this to my attention.
I'm kind of fundamentally against purely aesthetic body modifications... especially ones that decrease downforce and disrupt airflow. That being said, it doesn't look too bad. I could make one out of fiberglass pretty easily.

A couple questions - how much of an angle would you like it to be at? should it lay parallel to the roof, or come up at an angle?
How should it be attached? the washer nozzle will probably have to be removed or relocated. The black strip at the top of the rear hatch is removable, but I forget how it's attached. Maybe I could make something that replaces the black strip and uses the same mounting clips or whatever it uses.

I'm on the fence about it. If I saw some more interest and some commitments I'd be much more inclined to start working on it.

[FeaRpb]

I will make a comment on it when I get home from work.

[3KVT]

First of all, thank you unknown for bringing this to my attention.
I'm kind of fundamentally against purely aesthetic body modifications... especially ones that decrease downforce and disrupt airflow. That being said, it doesn't look too bad. I could make one out of fiberglass pretty easily.

A couple questions - how much of an angle would you like it to be at? should it lay parallel to the roof, or come up at an angle?
How should it be attached? the washer nozzle will probably have to be removed or relocated. The black strip at the top of the rear hatch is removable, but I forget how it's attached. Maybe I could make something that replaces the black strip and uses the same mounting clips or whatever it uses.

I'm on the fence about it. If I saw some more interest and some commitments I'd be much more inclined to start working on it.

answering the angle question. I think more of a "roof extension" would look sweet, rather than something that has a duck bill style to it with a more aggressive angle.

[mb3000]

Anyone like the evo "vortex generator" thing? I wonder how that would look.

[Unknownvr4]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps3.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps4.jpg

I think i like these two the best. And using where the nozzle goes or how it clips in is a good idea.

[x2percentmilk]

id probably buy the angled colormatch one. lat42 we should join forces :P

EDIT: yeah that one fearpb

[FeaRpb]

I would totally buy this one.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps3.jpg

[Unknownvr4]

They would come unpainted. Getting them painted factory color would be too much time and jack up the prices way high on them on his side.

[NOMIEZVR4]

They look cool, I would like to see a different angle on it too...

What about sunroof spoilers/wind deflectors does anyone have anything on their 3/s like that?

[Unknownvr4]

Just went outside to check clearances.

The way our hatches open, the spoiler can not be taller than the rear nozzle until after the nozzle ends (if you wanted it duck bill style) or it will hit when you open the trunk. I believe a flat one would be ok.

Also if we want them stretching across the whole back glass and extend to the side glasses (on 3000s only) we may have to make them in 3 pieces. (im not sure, i didnt check on this)

[x2percentmilk]

Hmm forgot about that. Im sure theres a way to do it right.

[Gearhead]

I think they fit the 3000GT profile, but I don't think it would look very good on a stealth.

[IPD]

I think they fit the 3000GT profile, but I don't think it would look very good on a stealth.

^this.

the stealth sails would NOT work with this, imho. i'm on the fence. i think the roofline of a 3/s is pretty damn perfect to begin with. adding this doesn't really "grab" me.

[Caswell239]

Interested to see a prototype!!

[kjzstealth]

I think it might work ok with a wingless Stealth

[GTO Assassin]

I'm still struggling with the why's. Are you that bored with the car you need to add body parts? I walked past a Honda Prelude today which had a wing on the hood where the wiper water shoots from. (as per the Toyota Celica) It's just silly where people want aerodynamic features these days. :(

Scotty

[GTOX]

I'm not really a huge fan of any of the factory spoiler offerings for our cars (AA wing is nice I guess), so if a roof spoiler was made that complimented a wingless look then i'm sure i'd at least consider it...

[IPD]

I'm not really a huge fan of any of the factory spoiler offerings for our cars (AA wing is nice I guess), so if a roof spoiler was made that complimented a wingless look then i'm sure i'd at least consider it...

n/a 3kgt wing > everything but the 96 banana. all i need now is pureform/torino pillars for mine....

[jessecain1]

i think it looks a bit ricey. our cars have a really sleek flow about them, and i really don't see this as a continuation of that flow.

[Atrosity]

n/a 3kgt wing > everything but the 96 banana. all i need now is pureform/torino pillars for mine....

not a fan of the na wing. the AA wing is better imo.

[mb3000]

AA wing is my favorite as well.

[Gearhead]

Just throwing an idea out there..

something like this:
http://www.origin-lab.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/RoofW-S141.jpg
http://www.maxspeed-motorsport.com/catalog/images/gp%20sport%2001.jpg
I think it would look pretty good on our cars
Just a quick question, what kind of car is in the second picture?

[Tys]

Just a quick question, what kind of car is in the second picture?

S14 Silvia (or 200SX or 240SX for you US guys i think)

[Unknownvr4]

240sx (s14). The last generation available to the US grounds

[Unknownvr4]

Bump..

[J_Parker]

I think it'd be a pretty good looking addition to a 3000GT, but I don't think it'd be very fitting on a Stealth, just because of the sail panels. Also I think they should form with the roof a little better, more or less to a degree that it's going to "guide" the airflow to the spoiler.

[tazman]

If this one was made I would buy it. I like how this one is lower than the second and it looks sick color matched.


First of all, thank you unknown for bringing this to my attention.
I'm kind of fundamentally against purely aesthetic body modifications... especially ones that decrease downforce and disrupt airflow. That being said, it doesn't look too bad. I could make one out of fiberglass pretty easily.

A couple questions - how much of an angle would you like it to be at? should it lay parallel to the roof, or come up at an angle?
How should it be attached? the washer nozzle will probably have to be removed or relocated. The black strip at the top of the rear hatch is removable, but I forget how it's attached. Maybe I could make something that replaces the black strip and uses the same mounting clips or whatever it uses.

I'm on the fence about it. If I saw some more interest and some commitments I'd be much more inclined to start working on it.

I like boosted3S' pick. I would commit to buying two, once you go into production. If you were to start a pre-order list, I would sign up. How many confirmed orders would you need to get this project started? If these could be made ready for prep and paint, that would be cool!

It could be attached to the black strip with 3M tape. The black strips are attached with a couple of clips. I deleted my rear wipers, and replaced the black strip on my cars with the ones that don't have nozzles.

[stealthTT]

For the Stealth, this might flow better with the sail panels.
I was thinking about a more Euro Design, just like the one that they use on BMW, E36, E46 - AC Schnitser style.

what do you think?
http://img.hardware-wholesale.com/1119054956784100_s/bmw_acs_roof_spoiler_e46_e36_e39_e60_e90.jpg

http://www.nicedeals.co.uk/body-kits/BMW-E38/e38-window-spoiler-bke.gif
http://www.nicedeals.co.uk/body-kits/BMW/e36-window-spoiler-1p1.gif

Ilie

[IPD]

^ those look like you're adding something for the sake of adding something.

[J_Parker]

Agree'd, they don't look to have much benefit at all.

[stealthTT]

agree with you.
dont know if any spoiler up there will do something good, only maybe a vortex one like on the sti/evo rally cars.
it was just a thought, as the others are just useless just like the ones that I've posted :)

[mb3000]

agree with you.
dont know if any spoiler up there will do something good, only maybe a vortex one like on the sti/evo rally cars.
it was just a thought, as the others are just useless just like the ones that I've posted :)

Nobody would make a photoshop of it for me earlier :(

[MR2]

I recon make something useful like that vortex thing the evo's have...I would actually buy one.

[IPD]

sounds like what glecar had...

http://www1.garaget.org/archive/18/17789/99458/99458-1778872.jpg

[Mike-92RT]

For some STRANGE reason... i really love those LEDs on the rear.. i have no idea why.. but its pretty sick.

[IPD]

i happen to love everything about that car except for the vents on the front fenders and the front bumper.

[MR2]

I like the Gle cars REAR facing hood vent

[IPD]

all vents face to the rear. yes, it's a backwards scoop (i know what you meant). and i still think it looks good.

but this isn't about glecar. it was about votex generators.

[Gearhead]

19071908I just looked him up, did he make all those body mods out of great stuff?

[97Pearl3KGT]

I'd be in for one if they were going to production (the one thats an extension of the roof line.) Everytime I see a wingless 3000GT I consider it more and more and this would be a great replacement for the hoop.

[IPD]

I'd be in for one if they were going to production (the one thats an extension of the roof line.) Everytime I see a wingless 3000GT I consider it more and more and this would be a great replacement for the hoop.

the n/a 91-96 3kgt wing is a great replacement for the hoop. especially if you mount it an inch further back than stock.

[i3igpete]

i could really go for some rear windshield louvers

[IPD]

i could really go for some rear windshield louvers

need a mullett to go with that?

http://www.sfxperformance.com/images/products/AST1351c.jpg

:vomit:

[97Pearl3KGT]

the n/a 91-96 3kgt wing is a great replacement for the hoop. especially if you mount it an inch further back than stock.

I just seen this, someone posted a picture up on the rear difuser thread, looked good. I'm considering a CF hatch (just love the look of CF and pearl white) is another reason I had wingless in mind. If I don't that wing is a definate possibility.

[i3igpete]

need a mullett to go with that?

:vomit:

I would pay $500 right now, TODAY, if someone would make me louvers

[IPD]

I would pay $500 right now, TODAY, if someone would make me louvers

why? do they serve some aerodynamic purpose?

[i3igpete]

because they look cool... i'm serious i like how they look

plus my car gets stupid hot in the summer

[IPD]

mustang, IROC, chevelle. any of these three should be able to fit the bill. :p

[Scorch]

because they look cool... i'm serious i like how they look

plus my car gets stupid hot in the summer

You're not alone. I like them too, maybe not on our cars. I could see them on a 1g do to the angles, but it would have to be done REALLY well. I've always wanted a 280z with louvers.

And I'll just toss this in here, not sure if it's been here before but its from the other forums.

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu95/robinp_photos/mit%20gto/137.jpg

[Nationalmilkman]

That white 3000gt is perfect! That looks great! If someone wanted a 3-piece then do that but that would work on a Stealth too as it is. I'm down for one of those. Is there anymore pics of that car?

[Gearhead]

That white 3000gt is perfect! That looks great! If someone wanted a 3-piece then do that but that would work on a Stealth too as it is. I'm down for one of those. Is there anymore pics of that car?
Tons more, and a red one just like it... http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu95/robinp_photos/mit%20gto/

[MR2]

before you go further...anyone want to do the string test and see exactly what doing this does to our cars? (aerodymanically)

[Nationalmilkman]

I do love the white car! With the lip, the roof spoiler and the hood blisters with the louvers, all looks great. I'm jealous!

[Scorch]

I do love the white car! With the lip, the roof spoiler and the hood blisters with the louvers, all looks great. I'm jealous!

I agree, its really well done and looks great. I also love the mirror conversion. Removes that awkward triangular piece and looks more exotic I think.

[x2percentmilk]

Whats funny is after actually seeing a car with one im not sure if I like it. Maybe its the angle, idk.

[IPD]

I agree, its really well done and looks great. I also love the mirror conversion. Removes that awkward triangular piece and looks more exotic I think.

never seen those mirrors before. they're nice. not quite as nice as the kaze, but almost. i'd take them over the bomex ones i have coming; but those were all i could find.

the white one has eurospec front & USDM spec headlight covers; which is freaking tits. not sure that i'm a fan of the louvered blisters or the c/f fake windows on the red one.

*edit* no, that's not eurospec. and i'm 99% certain that's the same car. he painted it.

[mb3000]

Whats funny is after actually seeing a car with one im not sure if I like it. Maybe its the angle, idk.

The white car has it located on the rear glass instead of on the actual roof of the car.

[GTOJOE]

never seen those mirrors before. they're nice. not quite as nice as the kaze, but almost. i'd take them over the bomex ones i have coming; but those were all i could find.

the white one has eurospec front & USDM spec headlight covers; which is freaking tits. not sure that i'm a fan of the louvered blisters or the c/f fake windows on the red one.

*edit* no, that's not eurospec. and i'm 99% certain that's the same car. he painted it.

It's JDM spec :P he just added a lip and modified the fog light area to hold rounded lights. The rest is stock JDM. He also painted the park lights.

[CoopKill]

I want to know what car those mirrors came off of! Please!

[Scorch]

I want to know what car those mirrors came off of! Please!

I'm pretty sure he said they're from an M3.

[IPD]

i wonder how plug & play they'd be on our cars...

jesus, i wish we had a reputable kaze dealer CONUS.

[jozRT/TT]

Has this idea gone anywhere? Any thoughts of doing one like the Swedish Stealth (Glecar)?

[Runner up]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps2.jpg


Maybe I'm in the minority here, but this is my favorite. I'd be willing to commit to this right now.

[DarK_sTyLe]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/x2percentmilk/roofps2.jpg
i love this one can someone in here make these

[J_Parker]

I can, but there isn't much of a market for them. And shipping out of Canada is treacherous. Also, for a Stealth as that's all I have at my disposal right now.

[MR2]

I would prefer the EVO triangles that work :p

[lat42MS]

I would prefer the EVO triangles that work :p

YES! haha, thank you.

I think... cars don't come with roof spoilers for a reason.

[ictponder]

I would prefer the EVO triangles that work :p

Our cars don't need diffusers as the rear window has a very gradual slope to the spoiler compared to the EVO. Just in case you were being serious.

[MR2]

I assume it would help suck even more air down to the wing though?

[Markingtime]

The style on the white car has my vote for looks, but until we know what we are doing aerodynamically I would be a bit hesitant.

[IPD]

I assume it would help suck even more air down to the wing though?

no. vortex generators do not "suck air" in any direction. they act by delaying flow-separation...which gives trailing-edge control surfaces greater force exertion.

[MR2]

however you want to word it, they would give our cars a greater amount of air onto the rear wing.

[Ninja Performance]

I would vote no to the roof spoiler. The car looks good, don't ruin it.

-Chris

[carbonfiberhoods.com]

Looks good, I think this would look perfect on the 3000GT. If there is an existing jdm roof wing / spoiler we could make a mold from it and made it in carbon fiber.

[KPZVR4]

Something with the old 512BB Ferrari spoiler might not look too bad. Not a lip, but a foil. just my .02

[shmoo]

did anyone see this picture?

it's badass:
http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu95/robinp_photos/mit%20gto/111.jpg