1st test of the DR650 billets

[Ray Pampena]

hey everyone! i installed a set of the new DR650 billet turbos on my "almost stock" daily driver that went 11.29 with the OLD STYLE DR650s. I describe the car as almost stock because its a factory stock 96vr4 with 165K no weight reduction has a stereo with a sub box etc and the only mods are...

old style DR650s
550s
afc maftranslator
walbro pump
rps clutch
downpipe no cats

now, the ONLY DIFFERENCE is i installed the new DR650 billets.. and the next trip to the track it will be in the 10s.. on only these mods! notice the huge spool time increase in these graphs... and my old 650s outspooled most other TD04s already

changing just the turbos and left at at 19psi with 93.. old vs new
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/raysinsomnia/806654064_photobucket_35649_.jpg

next, 25psi vs 25psi old vs new for comparison. the DIFFERENCE is the old ones wouldnt make more boost where these have waaay more room. barely 1/3 110 octane total octane less than 100. you can see ignition problems starting
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/raysinsomnia/806654064_photobucket_35648_.jpg


next, 28psi same fuel more spark blowout. if i had a twin power these things have more room than this. when looking at my numbers REMEMBER I HAVE STOCK IC AND EXHAUST. if EITHER set were on a car with a front mount, blow through, exhaust etc etc the numbers would be higher than these although that doesnt stop me from running low 11s and will be 10s lol

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/raysinsomnia/806654064_photobucket_35647_.jpg

overall, im impressed with the fast spool and power output! these can easily make 600 with the right mods

[Ray Pampena]

ok, some coppers at .022 got me going! heres a comparo of my 11.29 run vs my 10 sec run that this car will definitly do
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/raysinsomnia/806654064_photobucket_35724_.jpg

heres tq alone (missing part lost signal) curser at 3800
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/raysinsomnia/806654064_photobucket_35723_.jpg

hp and engine speed alone (missing part lost signal) curser at 3800
[IMG]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178

[green-lantern]

That's awesome Ray! Cant wait to see this at the track. You almost seem like a kid on xmas day with this new car. lol

[AdamVR4]

Wow. Are you surprised the billet wheels made such a significant difference?

[Hans@GZP]

Awesome numbers Ray. These new billet turbos has me rethinking my current turbo setup.

[futurevr4man]

that is truly impressive. you must love having a dyno to play around on lol

[Ray Pampena]

yea, im definitly having fun with this. its quiet, stock looking and driving.. i can race shit without fire breathing 1000hp 2 steps lol. its nice to race regular shit on the streets like vettes and stuff. the other car i only end up racing bikes and real race cars. theres no point racing a neon at a light with that car lol.


Adam, i had high hopes with the billet wheels. my other car picked up 300whp with them! btw, i changed my plugs and it is working now

Hans, these are a great replacement for everything besides the huge shit. i wouldnt bother going TD05 when you can get the same with no lag and stock fitment

yes, the dyno is great to have around!

[Hans@GZP]

I have a T3 setup currently. Not sure if I want to keep with it or not. It's got huge power potential, but I really enjoy a good street car. My 13G setup was still my favorite street setup out of all of the turbo setups I've had LOL

[SnakeSkinner]

These are up for sale on my web page

http://www.dynamicracing.com/customer/product.php?productid=585&cat=189&page=1

[SnakeSkinner]

These are up for sale on my web page

http://www.dynamicracing.com/customer/product.php?productid=585&cat=189&page=1

[DocWalt]

Damn, nice numbers Ray! These look like freaking great budget turbos, Matt, thanks for the continued support of the platform with all of these new advances :)

[Roybatty]

over 100 hp gains @ 3400 and 3800 rpms compared to non billet; how does this compare to 19ts?

[Ray Pampena]

over 100 hp gains @ 3400 and 3800 rpms compared to non billet; how does this compare to 19ts?

19Ts are way laggier than these are... by far. my car passed 500tq at around 3600. ive never seen that on any 19T cars ive tuned

[SnakeSkinner]

19Ts are way laggier than these are... by far. my car passed 500tq at around 3600. ive never seen that on any 19T cars ive tuned

Ya from what I have seen 19T's are about 800 rpm + more to hit 500 ft/lb even on cars with Exhaust, and Intercooler up-grades that your billet DR650 car did not have.

[Roybatty]

Oh yea, I can see billet is the choice now, you've made everything else comparably priced obsolete. Now I just have to convince the wife, the kids don't need preschool; but I need turbos!

[DrkZide]

Could I run these through an NA block?

[CoopKill]

What effect does the billet have on life expectancy of the turbo?

[GTOJOE]

What effect does the billet have on life expectancy of the turbo?

2nd this question :D

[Ray Pampena]

The wheel material will have zero effect on turbo life. Its neutral balanced and even lighter so if anything, it would only help

[CoopKill]

Thank you sir!

[SnakeSkinner]

The wheel material will have zero effect on turbo life. Its neutral balanced and even lighter so if anything, it would only help

Bingo.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Very impressive. Nice price too, Matt. :Clap:

Jeremy

[TwIzTeD_3kGt]

Wow that's a good price. I paid just about that much for used 19T's last year. :Clap:

[GTOJOE]

I thought the shaft was also changed to a titanium one or something similar? or is this only on the 750? or am I on drugs?

[HilbillyHomeboy]

That's the 750's and they have a titanium exhaust turbine. :)

Jeremy

[GTOJOE]

That's the 750's and they have a titanium exhaust turbine. :)

Jeremy

Sweet.... that's what I want anyway. I assume that even though everything is lighter and the shaft is titanium the bearing material will still wear just as quick. Maybe slightly less due to lighter weight?

[KeithMac]

DR750`s will be my next turbo, when the rest of the car is up to the job of doing them justice..

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Sweet.... that's what I want anyway. I assume that even though everything is lighter and the shaft is titanium the bearing material will still wear just as quick. Maybe slightly less due to lighter weight?

If anything it should be less wear, due to being lighter so less friction and heat.

Jeremy

[DrkZide]

I thought Titanium becomes weaker/brittle when exposed to heat? Or am I thinking of another metal? Same reason why Titanium valves are not recommended for a "street" car.

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

I thought Titanium becomes weaker/brittle when exposed to heat? Or am I thinking of another metal? Same reason why Titanium valves are not recommended for a "street" car.

that is why it is a titanium aluminide alloy designed for turbo use.

[akotten]

that is why it is a titanium aluminide alloy designed for turbo use.

This.

[DrkZide]

Awesome, learn something new everyday. I wasn't questioning, I was just curious. :)

[SnakeSkinner]

Interested in these turbos? now is the time to act, save big.

http://www.dynamicracing.com/customer/product.php?productid=587&cat=31&page=1

[IPD]

gotta look at the dyno charts when i'm off work.

[VR-4 0wnz j00]

Im buying them as soon as I come back to the US whether my fiancée likes it or not, lol.

[IPD]

i'm sure the intercooler upgrades will help; although i still think that FMIC > SMIC for most applications.