Lmi = ssm

[Emilie@GZP]

Something those of you that have been screwed by Warren... may want to check out.

http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/lmi-ssm-509880/

a copy and paste for anyone who can't view over there



*backstory*
I had set up a trade of some parts for parts in SOCAL a few months back, and when I had arrived at the location for the trade I was met by the forum member that I was trading and then I was introduced to his friend "Dominque".

After this meeting was when I had posted this thread:
http://www.3si.org/forum/f4/t3-manifolds-ebay-1761-shipped-507567/

In the original write up for the ebay ad, it stated the following statement "when dominque founded SSM" some may remember that some may not, but that is not what is important.

So fast forward to about 2 weeks ago I was talking to someone about the LMI/Warren thing and they sent me a facebook link for Warren.. and well guess who I was introduced to under the alias "dominque"?? Yup warren..

So after alittle more investigating the ebay store for SSM was started on Oct 22nd, of this year before that it belonged to another person(the name was changed but the date was still the same)

So if you take a look at the SSM website you can see that a few products offered by our vendors/members are quite similiar(solid mounts, and maybe some crashbars)

Split Second Motorsports - Performance Parts (http://www.splitsecondmotorsports.com/)

So yes, SSM might not be LMI but warren is involved in some shape or form....


Buyer beware...



oh, i did a little digging myself, and found the split second motorsports, is a shop out in hawaii that has been around since 2006... not this new "split-second motorsports".

This is the legitimate SSM that has been around since 2006....
2006 Season Finale, Results - Islandracer.com Message Board (http://www.islandracer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276)


Split second motorsports ebay account was only changed over in october 2010... a far cry from their "6 years in business". And it was originally Warrens friend Jesse's ebay account... which is why it still has positive feedback :rolleyes:

[Atrosity]

Here you can see based on WHOIS and Ip lookup and he is using another alias known as james gomez who is actually Warren Luciano. The dumbass also listed the email as LMI Turbo...dumbass!

LMI Turbos address is the same as split second motorsports.

http://whois.domaintools.com/splitsecondmotorsports.com


The guy hosting this website is also the same guy who crashed my website back in march, some of you know what i am talking about.

Registrant:
3500gtforums.com
1517 n king st
santa ana, California 92706
United States

Domain Name: SPLITSECONDMOTORSPORTS.COM
Created on: 29-Jul-10
Expires on: 29-Jul-11
Last Updated on: 29-Jul-10

Administrative Contact:
gomez, james 3500gtforums@lmiturbos.com
3500gtforums.com
1517 n king st
santa ana, California 92706
United States
(714) 418-6587 Fax --

Technical Contact:
gomez, james 3500gtforums@lmiturbos.com
3500gtforums.com
1517 n king st
santa ana, California 92706
United States
(714) 418-6587 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ZEROLAG.COM
NS2.ZEROLAG.COM

[Emilie@GZP]

another useful tid-bit of info

http://whois.domaintools.com/splitsecondmotorsports.com

BTW, for anyone needing a refund still, he has his own forum now, and is quite the avid poster from what I can see

[93STLTH]

Wow... I'm not one to recommend violence, but this guy needs a serious ass wooping!

[Emilie@GZP]

he's got a serious identity problem, and introduces himself to different people, by different names. That's not something a normal person would do....

[mb3000]

he's got a serious identity problem, and introduces himself to different people, by different names. That's not something a normal person would do....

His products are so bad that simply by introducing himself by his real name will scare off potential customers, therefore he has to go up making up random names for himself.

:Seriously:

[DocWalt]

ssm = sh*t, shower, masturbate?

[Atrosity]

ssm = sh*t, shower, masturbate?

Yes that is all they do with each other in that "company". LOL

Warrens reputation will follow him no matter what he tries to do in the 3S platform and who is working with.

[green-lantern]

The only way Warren could repair his rep is to one by one make things right with the people he burnt.

Thanks for posting this info.

[TwIzTeD_3kGt]

Good to know. I find it hard to believe he can get away with his business practices.

[Chatzvr4]

Yes that is all they do with each other in that "company". LOL

Warrens reputation will follow him no matter what he tries to do in the 3S platform and who is working with.

You just don't quit do you. Honestly this has gone far enough. Just so people on here know, I'm the owner of Split Second Motorsports. Name is Jesse. The business is legit as can be. Not many out there are. Everyone I know , knows I'm trustworthy and honest. No BS here.

[Atrosity]

Actions speak louder then words.

[Chatzvr4]

So actions is what you want, ok. You said it.

[DrGonzo]

For someone stating you have a legit business you should start by making a legit website!

Currently your website looks like you sell products and that people can buy them right off the site. But your site has no functionality. People can not even get into 90% the products, The shopping cart does not function (it was never built too) and half of your links point back to the same page. The only products that you can buy off of the site are the ones you make inhouse. Which means that all of your other products you don't have the rights as a reseller to even sell them!

This is a classic case of a wanna-be business creating a website as a front for a scam! Just cause you start having local meets and hang-outs does not mean you have been in business that long. It starts the day you get approved for a business license and have a tax id.

[Chatzvr4]

The resellers permit, tax id, and business license I have. Haven't had time to finish the site. There's nothing an email can't fix. Someone who purchases always has questions anyways.

[Hans@GZP]

Good luck Jesse. You are starting off pretty much the same way I did. It's a tough climb, but just keep your head up and keep going.

[tazman]

The resellers permit, tax id, and business license I have. Haven't had time to finish the site. There's nothing an email can't fix. Someone who purchases always has questions anyways.

If he took the time to get all this, he doesn't seem like a scammer to me! Maybe something on the site that states "site under construction" would be better for now. Good luck on this endeavor Jesse!

[futurevr4man]

i have followed the other thread as well... there is no reason to rag this guy for hiring someone. do i think warren will hurt his reputation? obviously yes... but its his business. i have stayed in contact with warren (trying to get my refund...) and everyone that knows him in person (KNOWS HIM not met him) claims him to be legit and a nice guy. did he make mistakes? yeah. a bunch. but maybe he has learned and is starting fresh? everyone on here needs to relax for like 2.3 seconds and give someone who wants to support our cars a chance. you can do what i just said without giving your money to him or having no ill effect on you.

bashing these new people will never help anything. if someone knows in some way how it will help, please let me know, because im lost as to why we push away anyone who are offering new products. i guess people enjoy having DR, 3sx, and IPS have a monopoly on the products for our cars...

but what do i know?:rolleyes::Doh:

[onebadmollafolla]

i have followed the other thread as well... there is no reason to rag this guy for hiring someone. do i think warren will hurt his reputation? obviously yes... but its his business. i have stayed in contact with warren (trying to get my refund...) and everyone that knows him in person (KNOWS HIM not met him) claims him to be legit and a nice guy. did he make mistakes? yeah. a bunch. but maybe he has learned and is starting fresh? everyone on here needs to relax for like 2.3 seconds and give someone who wants to support our cars a chance. you can do what i just said without giving your money to him or having no ill effect on you.

bashing these new people will never help anything. if someone knows in some way how it will help, please let me know, because im lost as to why we push away anyone who are offering new products. i guess people enjoy having DR, 3sx, and IPS have a monopoly on the products for our cars...

but what do i know?:rolleyes::Doh:

Monopoly is derived from the word mono which is rooted from ancient Greek meaning "one" or "singular". DR, 3SX, and IPS are separate entities. -__-

[Atrosity]

i have followed the other thread as well... there is no reason to rag this guy for hiring someone. do i think warren will hurt his reputation? obviously yes... but its his business. i have stayed in contact with warren (trying to get my refund...) and everyone that knows him in person (KNOWS HIM not met him) claims him to be legit and a nice guy. did he make mistakes? yeah. a bunch. but maybe he has learned and is starting fresh? everyone on here needs to relax for like 2.3 seconds and give someone who wants to support our cars a chance. you can do what i just said without giving your money to him or having no ill effect on you.

bashing these new people will never help anything. if someone knows in some way how it will help, please let me know, because im lost as to why we push away anyone who are offering new products. i guess people enjoy having DR, 3sx, and IPS have a monopoly on the products for our cars...

but what do i know?:rolleyes::Doh:

Me and some people in socal KNOW warren, he lied to my face, he has personally screwed me over has taken my money and has know means to refund me at all.

I just read this today that he posted.


They are also ragging on jesses shop. which is fucked up because he has nothing to do with this. but no Emily just loves to keep shit rolling. And Atrosity hell i dont even know what to say about that little fag bitch. But just giving you guys a heads up.


as far as the gay midget. Well this is my reply to whom after calling me a cross dresser, dumbass, a stating he will get my blood from a rock and actually has nothign to do with the platform but a seperate issue. the guy will get no respect from me what so ever. As far as emily she has called me just about every damn name in the book but hey i am used to that from women.


So this is the guy behind the mask. Warren says a lot of bullshit to peoples face and you may think he sounds honest on the phone but when I have seen him personally say one thing and actually see him do another that is full face dishonesty, also i have seen hang up or ignore the phone calls of people purposely because he does not want to deal with the situation, this is how I know he is fucked up.

In his living room he had his "company" phone go to his computer and well he is in the garage or outside all day. So people will call this so called shop phone all day long and he would not pick it up. If you are one of the lucky ones who got his cell phone, he would answer the phone to certain people but if Wono called his cellphone I remember him purposely ignoring the phone call.

I have faith in jesse in what he does, I know he may dislike me but I know he can make something of himself, and him personally is somewhat trustworthy. All this negativity has nothing to do with him at all but it is the fact that warren is working under him when he personally owes people money and ignores everyone from the 3S platform including myself is what is bothersome.

[Emilie@GZP]

I expected this kind of reply from him. I've never dealt with anyone in my life that had more excuses for their actions (or lack of) than Warren.

[Chatzvr4]

Real quick how can you pay someone back without money?
You need either a job or a rich daddy. So just let it be. Lets us do what we do.

[jbuhrman]

Jesse, what position does warren have within the company?

Does he fabricate anything?? Like headers?

Also to go back to the whole James Gomez/Warren thing...

When we did the trade for the exhaust/MAF-T the address I was given by you was N king street... which is where I had met warren but earlier it states that is james gomez's address.

That is an issue that should be resolved as some people don't know James Gomez but they know of warren.

You don't have to answer these, also...

why not become a site sponser here, so that if anyone purchases anything you can answer questions and it would show your intrest in moving the platform forward??

[Amphiron]

Real quick how can you pay someone back without money?


I can think of something. =]

[Chatzvr4]

Jesse, what position does warren have within the company?

Does he fabricate anything?? Like headers?

Also to go back to the whole James Gomez/Warren thing...

When we did the trade for the exhaust/MAF-T the address I was given by you was N king street... which is where I had met warren but earlier it states that is james gomez's address.

That is an issue that should be resolved as some people don't know James Gomez but they know of warren.

You don't have to answer these, also...

why not become a site sponser here, so that if anyone purchases anything you can answer questions and it would show your intrest in moving the platform forward??


Baby steps James. I was going to sign up sooner or later just haven't got around to it. But know that you mentioned it how do I go about becoming a sponsor? Also I got a piece of pipe left from the catback. It should fix some of that flat area. Its the piece I took out to install the resonator.

[Chatzvr4]

I can think of something. =]

No gay stuff
No prostitution
no funny business.

[jbuhrman]

Baby steps James. I was going to sign up sooner or later just haven't got around to it. But know that you mentioned it how do I go about becoming a sponsor? Also I got a piece of pipe left from the catback

I believe there is a sticky on the sales/sponsers area that goes over the process and prices.

Or just PM alan as he is the guy to talk to anyway

[Hans@GZP]

Real quick how can you pay someone back without money?
You need either a job or a rich daddy. So just let it be. Lets us do what we do.

Don't spew BS about having built turbos for so many years with good results to people so you can sell something you have no business producing? You wouldn't owe anything if you didn't lie in the first place about a product you can't produce.

[jbuhrman]

Don't spew BS about having built turbos for so many years with good results to people so you can sell something you have no business producing? You wouldn't owe anything if you didn't lie in the first place about a product you can't produce.

Hans... jesse and warren are 2 different people you could add a tell him at the begining

[Emilie@GZP]

Hans... jesse and warren are 2 different people you could add a tell him at the begining

he was speaking in generalizations... same as Jesse's post was written.

[jbuhrman]

he was speaking in generalizations... same as Jesse's post was written.

With all the posts, I just dont want jesse to assume hans is refering that to him, as there is alot of odd posts here...

and I understand.... bleh.. being on duty sucks

[Chatzvr4]

As stated on my first on 3si Warren designed the website for 3500gtforums and splitsecondmotorsports. Basically he paid for everything so that's why it has the same address. As far as his position he does anything I tell em to (no homo). From updating the website to sweeping the floor. So if you have questions for Warren why dont you just ask warren on 3500gtforums.com

As far as advancing the platform all I have left is a single Turbo header kit and some odds and ends.

[Emilie@GZP]

so, he's not doing ANY of the welding or fabbing?

[Chatzvr4]

If you guys want to discuss or BS why don't you guys post on a website where Warren can reply. Go to 3500gtforums and go at it

[Chatzvr4]

No he's not emilie

[Emilie@GZP]

that's not what I heard, but OK. :)

[Chatzvr4]

He made his own set of headers for his car. That's as far as that goes. If you want to see for yourself come on down

[futurevr4man]

well maybe i dont know warren as well as i think, and maybe he really is just full of it and is a terrible person. im not sure. but i do know that giving jesse a hard time on here for having warren as an employee will not help anything.

[tazman]

If you guys want to discuss or BS why don't you guys post on a website where Warren can reply. Go to 3500gtforums and go at it

The issue is with Warren, not with Jesse. I recommend that any affected party communicate directly with Warren.

[IPD]

so can we talk cianci into merging with lmi/ssm, so that it's easier to spot the crap?

[KeithMac]

The issue is with Warren, not with Jesse. I recommend that any affected party communicate directly with Warren.

From what I`ve seen they`ve been trying to do that for quite some time with no results..

[jba3]

Cianci was a respected company, and hired Shaun. Shaun had a bad reputation to many. Cianci attempts to slam him in public, and he goat-rapes them five ways from friday. Cianci flees as a sponsor.

Jesse has a potentially legit company, and hires Warren, who is a known liar and a thief, and also owes a number of people chunks of money for failed products or never-delivered products.

Will Warren sink SSM? Will Jesse fire Warren? Cast your vote now!

[OhioSpyderman]

James, you have an uncanny knack for summarizing issues!!!!

(Happy Holidays James)

Bob. :)

[stealthify]

Cianci was a respected company, and hired Shaun. Shaun had a bad reputation to many. Cianci attempts to slam him in public, and he goat-rapes them five ways from friday. Cianci flees as a sponsor.

http://fadeeva.com/beasts/stuffed_goat.jpg

[skyrunner]

The issue is with Warren, not with Jesse. I recommend that any affected party communicate directly with Warren.

That's pretty hard when you are halfway across the country and all you have is a phone number that apparently he doesn't care if he gets a calls on every single minute of every day. Although I'd guess most people have given up on him just like I did. Took it as a loss and got half of my money back from Ray. At one point I thought about writing a script that would text him every day or every few hours, asking for my refund but I'd rather just forget about the whole situation. Is anyone still pursuing a refund from him?

I know it sucks for you Jesse, but hiring him IS a BIG strike against your business. If you want to get a legit company up you better publicly get rid of him, and soon.

[92RT-TT]

Wow I would just love to take one of his turbos apart and inspect it. I can only imagine what he does when he puts them together. He must not check any of the parts to make sure the sizes are within spec and he must use absolute garbage for parts. Its too bad there are people out there who dont take pride in their work :/

[Atrosity]

Wow I would just love to take one of his turbos apart and inspect it. I can only imagine what he does when he puts them together. He must not check any of the parts to make sure the sizes are within spec and he must use absolute garbage for parts. Its too bad there are people out there who dont take pride in their work :/
I will be sending you my set of 16Ts man. They are being taken out of the car this weekend and next weekend. So I will ship them out to you and we can see how they are.

[92RT-TT]

I will be sending you my set of 16Ts man. They are being taken out of the car this weekend and next weekend. So I will ship them out to you and we can see how they are.

Awesome, I'm probably going to send off the journal bearing and some of the other components off to have metallurgical testing done on them so I can see what type of material they used. My guess is one of their problems was they were using inferior metals in their rebuild kits that just couldn't hold up.