5th gear confusion/help

[stealthee]

So guess who had yet another transmission issue?

Ok so long story as short as possible. I started hearing a noise when driving the car probably around October. The more I thought about the more I thought 5th gear nut had come loose. I knew it was an easy check and fix but weather wasn't lining up with timing so I didn't get to it.

Early December I hit a deer in my Lancer a few miles from my house. I had somewhere to be and could get the car back to the house so I ran back and grabbed the 3000 knowing there was an issue. I drove the car to my destination and then a few hours later when I was leaving I heard a noise that made me think that the 5th gear nut was barely hanging on. I was able to get the car home, and after I backed into my driveway I slid the shifter forward and it fell into 5th, where it was now stuck, but the car acted like it was in neutral.

Thankfully I had access to another vehicle while I dealt with insurance and getting my Lancer fixed so I didn't need the 3000, and weather wasn't cooperative in me looking at the trans since we seemed to have snow on the ground for a few weeks straight. Anyway, I finally got to look at it the other day after work since the weather was gorgeous and I actually had time.

I figured, jack the car up, take the plastic cover off, take the side cover off the trans, torque the nut(s), restake, reassemble.

That was until I found this

https://i.imgur.com/meshIoc.jpg


So yeah, looks like the nut did back off, put enough pressure on the side case and blew through it.

Obviously lost a few parts so once the side case was off I pulled the whole assembly to go over it. This is where some confusion comes in. I had to get my stash of trans parts out and get another synchro assembly so I could replace a synchro spring and the syncho keys. I reassembled everything and tightened the nut enough to test it and it came out of 5th, and shifted through the other gears. It was getting late so I put everything away and would go back over everything this weekend.

I looked up the 5th gear assembly to make sure there wasn't anything else missing and this is where I got confused.

I found this

https://i.imgur.com/tU3wUQR.jpg

Its confusing when you look at #1 and #2. It looks like you're supposed to have both, since it doesn't explicitly say you should have either one or the other, but it doesn't read properly. This caused me to start looking for other parts. I went through my trans stash and I literally have at least 2 of everything, but I didn't have anything that looked like a "stop plate."

I got frustrated and put everything away and started doing more research as I started typing this thread. I ended up finding the following the the 3s specific FSM

https://i.imgur.com/ls4ClJx.jpg

It definitely doesn't show a stop plate, so I just need some verification, and clarification that as long as I have the reverse brake ring I am okay. I'm also curious what cars would have had the stop plate.

Thanks

Oh and for anyone wondering this was my Lancer after the run in with the deer

https://i.imgur.com/fTl6w6C.jpg

After arguing with insurance and them totaling it, and me buying it back and fixing it it looked like this

https://i.imgur.com/pgZ4nfA.jpg

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

Yeah the 3s ones don't have that stop, there's
The reverse brake that looks like a synchro and the wav spring in the end case.

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[stealthee]

Awesome Chris. I was hoping maybe you'd see this. I was confident until I found 22A-61 then started panicking a little until I I found 22-28 but I just wanted verification so I wasn't tearing this back apart later or worse having something come apart.

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Lancer looks good, well done. Is it true that deer often end up going through the windshield? Glad we don't have many free range ones down here.

[stealthee]

Thanks. I don't think deer going through the windshield happens often. I have seen or heard of some crazy instances though. I've hit several, and never had any even come near the windshield.