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anyonebutme
02-23-2018, 01:06 AM
Backstory is, I was shopping for a vehicle to use as a rally support truck. Needed to be AWD, have decent ground clearance, 4 seats, and a decent trunk space. My experience working on BMWs meant I was initially shopping X5's (or a 5 series wagon to build a drift taxi out of, that was plan B), and had passed on quite a few good deals but nothing super great. Was also randomly checking out things like the 4runner, xterra, and pathfinders but wasn't wanting a 4x4. All the reviews I read said the pathfinder rides much better than the 4runner on rough roads and higher speeds, which is exactly what I wanted. Initially didn't look for the QX4 because they were priced higher than I wanted to spend, but it did check all the boxes I wanted. The ATTESA ETS system has a big draw for me though. A random set of events though changed that as an X5 I was going to buy fell through, a local QX4 popped up was sent to me. It was decently clean enough, and more importantly it was a price I couldn't avoid. I went to look at it and verify it had some of the options I wanted it to have, mainly working HID lights, heated seats and rear LSD. The mission was on.

So I bought it. A relatively low mile 2002 QX4 that failed safety inspection due to the front strut towers separating due to rust, it was far enough to be dangerous to drive, as the only thing holding the front left corner up was the brake master cylinder. You could feel the bumps in the road move the pedals. I bought it knowing it needed fixing but figured I'd call Infiniti just to see if they'd fix it for free. Infiniti said the recall inspection was done in 2012, and any damage due to rust since then wasn't their problem. Time to put her on the lift and fire up the welder, bringing her back to life.

Inspecting the damage, glad to see the mounting points for the repair bracket are in good condition, as I will be using the brackets to position the strut tower in the correct location for the operation. I chose to weld in new metal because I believe the fiberglass repair Nissan came up with is a half-ass way of doing this type of repair.

Driver side:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4656/39295250155_e64ccfde96_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22SoqR2)IMG_20180210_155643909 (https://flic.kr/p/22SoqR2) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Passenger side:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4608/40193342371_0164fd59ce_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24eKonz)IMG_20180210_165932941 (https://flic.kr/p/24eKonz) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


The driver's side is even worse than the pic appears, as with the weight of the car on it, the hole is another inch or two taller. Before I took that pic, I had pulled down on the tower some to check how loose it was, and was able to move it a couple inches up and down easily, nothing much was left structure wise. I now can formulate a plan on what I'm going to do. Plan is to clean it up, position the bracket, drill for the bolts, and bolt it in bracket, weld in new metal, remove bracket, finish welding, then install bracket as in the recall so it will be even stronger than when it was new. Oh, and to add to the difficulty, I will also be on a time crunch as I want this completed and back on the road to use for the upcoming Rally in the 100 Acre Wood as a support truck. I had 4 weekends that I could work on it after work, and one or two days a week I can put a couple hours in at night. Also during this time I'll be mounting auxiliary lighting because the factory lights in their current condition just wouldn't work for high speed gravel road use.

Also, in case you're wondering. No, the Montero wasn't on the list of options. They manage to cost more while having less HP and from what I read, not as good an AWD system. The same year Montero has 170ish HP vs this with 240 and room to grow. You know, because I might get bored and turbo it or something...

RealMcCoy
02-23-2018, 12:13 PM
Sounds like you need a southern/westcoast Pathfinder parts truck...

anyonebutme
02-23-2018, 08:50 PM
Well, my camera decided to not save half the pics, but I'll post what I have.

Step 1, Start unweaving the unibody. Unibody cars are made from layers of individual panels, so when attempting a repair like this you need to suppress the desire to just cut and replace, and try and save as many of the interior sheets as possible and bond those into the repair. Hard to explain, but in the chassis rail section there was 4 layers spot welded together. Pretty standard fare. In the first pic you'll see a piece of metal to the right that has curved shape and 2 large spot welds, That is a main chassis rail piece that runs down under the car and all the way to the rear. In the pic I already removed the top layer, and the inside most layer facing the engine, both were toast. A lot of seam sealer also had to be removed because that stuff ruins your ability to weld and catches fire. I prefer the torch method, I use it often to burn the sealant out for seam welding race cars. Way more sealer than factory, so I think someone smeared sealer on top of the rust to hide it, possibly the dealer that did the recall inspection. Problem is sealer doesn't stop rust, and this happens. You'll also notice I'm grinding off the coatings where the bracket bonds on, because the epoxy will not bond to anything but bare or etched metal. The skins I'll be using are slightly thicker than the factory metal, since it's metal I had left over from a Mitsubishi project. I'm no sure I've ever worked on a car made out of this thin of steel before, lol.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4709/40327669121_ece6eba6f0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24rBR32)IMG_20180217_163957335 (https://flic.kr/p/24rBR32) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


This is the passenger side after I started grinding off the coatings, rust, and leveling the spot welds to get to the chassis rail.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4632/40327683601_7bc2c78c01_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24rBVkF)IMG_20180217_140646633 (https://flic.kr/p/24rBVkF) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr



This is the outer most skin roughed into shape. The inside skin not shown is already welded to the frame rail and will be welded to this skin from the engine side after it's in final position. It looks like it doesn't reach, but it's because the tower is not pulled down for this picture. You'll see a large rosette weld on the right, that is where I tied back into the main chassis rail piece I spoke of before.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4759/25456274397_3815d62766_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EMu4uH)IMG_20180217_165758623 (https://flic.kr/p/EMu4uH) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


Pulling tower into position, and tacking in the tower to hold the position while the rest of the scab pieces are cut, ground, welded.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4707/39616445254_aa6aa19623_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23mLCXy)IMG_20180217_172124106 (https://flic.kr/p/23mLCXy) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

And moving to panel up the tower connection, this was the end of the weekend and had to stop, so a coating of weld-through primer was put on so no rust started while it rained all week:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4627/39616443884_98da332fc6_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23mLCxW)IMG_20180217_185019407 (https://flic.kr/p/23mLCxW) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

anyonebutme
02-23-2018, 10:01 PM
And skip to bonding the repair brackets with structural epoxy, rivnuts, and bolts. Everything from here on out is the standard recall work. I had Nissan's recommended Fusor stuff so I used it. My nutsert/rivnut setter didn't have the correct fine pitch, and doing the bolt trick didn't work for me so I just welded in the rivnuts and compressed them with the bolt.

Passenger bracket bonded in, you can see the weld to the left of the bracket where I welded in the new metal, but don't have a picture anymore of the repair under the bracket.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4770/39452330845_602a517525_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/237gvsM)IMG_20180218_172208327 (https://flic.kr/p/237gvsM) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Seam sealer time:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4743/40304236962_a4f69441b7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24pxKth)IMG_20180218_190014122 (https://flic.kr/p/24pxKth) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Impact resistant undercoating time, this stuff also great at deadening sound. The pic was taken before I installed the brake manifold bolt so that's why it's missing:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4742/39659595004_8ac07c9464_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23qzMSL)IMG_20180219_140503907 (https://flic.kr/p/23qzMSL) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


Driver's bracket:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4657/38539758910_055fc68c2a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21HCkBU)IMG_20180218_172157690 (https://flic.kr/p/21HCkBU) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Seam sealer time:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4604/40349373951_41eaf823d9_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24tx68e)IMG_20180218_190025335 (https://flic.kr/p/24tx68e) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Undercoating:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4614/39473734905_8aafb94e08_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/239ad9i)IMG_20180219_140441386 (https://flic.kr/p/239ad9i) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Unlogic
02-24-2018, 02:31 AM
Wow, that recall seems pretty nasty. I can't imagine that the recall repair would hold up for more than a few years even if the dealerships followed the instructions.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2012/SB-10044329-4676.pdf

anyonebutme
02-24-2018, 02:07 PM
It's actually less a rust issue than a design issue where the strut tower is connected to the frame rail with a single layer of super thin metal, instead of the tower being interweaved. I bet if you do a lot of offroading, the strut tower would still separate even without any rust, so I consider the repair brackets mandatory even on good condition cars. If the dealer would have performed the recall, they would have just installed the bracket and fiberglassed the holes, which is a sh*t repair IMO and will fail in a few years. Had they have done the recall I would have resold the car simply because I think Nissan's recall fix is terrible. Doing it myself, I know for a fact that it will be stronger than it was when the car was new. I'm kinda disappointed this car had this much damage with 140K miles on it, but figured it was an easy fix for me and it had black leather interior and the other QX4's for sale had that terrible tan interior.

Pic with the suspension back in:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4704/26499401638_b17bf7a258_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GnEmT9)IMG_20180219_190004518 (https://flic.kr/p/GnEmT9) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Before I even fixed the suspension I was already mounting lights on it, formulating a plan on where I was going to put on the lights without making a light bar. First up was a set of KC daylighter 55w HID lights I had laying around:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4712/25209612037_201f01eb2d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EpFRnp)IMG_20180203_151037102 (https://flic.kr/p/EpFRnp) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4615/39183170735_f31d53f0a3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22GtZxe)IMG_20180203_162629810 (https://flic.kr/p/22GtZxe) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

All I did was cut out the horizontal plastic piece in the bumper opening, and bolted them to the bumper beam. Since these are 24v models that were originally to be mounted on a HMMWV in Iraq, I had to use voltage converters to run them on 12v and replace the 24v relay, easy. Mounting the ballasts:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4604/38518446670_ff6a5e14b0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21FK7eu)IMG_20180217_121404484 (https://flic.kr/p/21FK7eu) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


Also mounted an LED light bar to the upper side of the bumper beam, so it fits under the grill and is almost invisible when off:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4667/38518470220_0f7192132c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21FKeew)IMG_20180217_121347756 (https://flic.kr/p/21FKeew) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

Buffed out the stock headlights because they were super clouded, only took 15 minutes to cut and buff:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4602/40300439492_da1837d264_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24pdhBE)IMG_20180218_151619385 (https://flic.kr/p/24pdhBE) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


Replaced the factory high beams with LED bulbs also, but more for the reduced amperage draw because they're not really any brighter than the factory 65w bulbs.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4764/39452346495_43eb1ffdf7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/237gA7B)IMG_20180218_182049651 (https://flic.kr/p/237gA7B) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4710/40349355041_8c5d43998c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24twZvc)IMG_20180218_182024428_HDR (https://flic.kr/p/24twZvc) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

anyonebutme
03-03-2018, 09:25 PM
Pics taken with phone camera with exposure locked, not the best but gives you an idea the difference in power of each set of lights.

Low beams:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4799/39891569854_e44de43cf2_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23M5HV9)IMG_20180303_190332 (https://flic.kr/p/23M5HV9) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


LED high beams:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4608/39707697115_a999a21dec_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23uQjXv)IMG_20180303_190341 (https://flic.kr/p/23uQjXv) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


High beams and light bar:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4694/26730927558_8fc92cb4ff_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GJ7Ztm)IMG_20180303_190415 (https://flic.kr/p/GJ7Ztm) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


KC HID Daylighters and low beams:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4756/26730932768_02fc21bd7c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GJ822b)IMG_20180303_190424 (https://flic.kr/p/GJ822b) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr


All lights lit:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4752/26730937028_fb35cc6c97_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GJ83hC)IMG_20180303_190429 (https://flic.kr/p/GJ83hC) by Chris Patterson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159076334@N04/), on Flickr

OhioSpyderman
03-04-2018, 11:04 AM
VERY nice work Chris :)

I haven't kept up, did you ditch the race car?

Do you still have the red Stealth?

What the hell do you have in your stable? :)

What's next with this build?

Bob.

anyonebutme
03-04-2018, 03:14 PM
Still have all the other cars. I think I'm down to 10 or so vehicles, scrapped a couple vr4 shells but still have the race car, red stealth, and green vr4. Next I'm going to either paint the wheels or replace them with something else, and install some off roady tires and rally mud flaps. Eventually going to install poly bushings all around and new shocks but I'm not going to put a lift on it. All of this will probably happen after the rally in 2 weeks. Then I'll decide if it needs more HP.

DocWalt
03-18-2018, 09:09 PM
I forgot these things existed, lol