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Thoughts?
Experience?
Anyone DL the new OS?
stealthee
06-29-2015, 08:47 PM
I'm interested in seeing how it works. I am (over)due for a new computer and the quick glimpses I saw looks promising. I have played with Windows 8 and 8.1 and did not like it. The 8.1 laptop even had the added home button.
I really don't understand why they went and changed everything. They thought it would be easier to have the tiles since everyone is so mobile crazy now, but for me its like having your dish towels in a certain drawer for several years, then you remodel and move where you put the towels. You end up going to the wrong place all time because you were so used to going to that same spot before.
Really though, different isn't always better.
KeithMac
06-30-2015, 02:34 AM
Should have an "XP" skin packaged with... I deal with a few computers at work and its a bloody nightmare when they move everything around just for the sake of it..
stealthee
06-30-2015, 09:48 AM
Agreed. XP was perfect as far as layout goes.
Jimvr4
06-30-2015, 09:58 AM
I actually like 8.1 quite a bit. I built my home desktop on it and it boots into a fully running desktop in less than 30 seconds. Initially I used an application that made it work like Win7 or XP but after I got more used to the interface I deleted the app.
The Task Manager in 8.1 is much better than Win7 as it shows a lot more details and options. You can mount ISOs directly from File Explorer without using a 3rd party app like Daemon Tools. You can even do it automatically at startup which is how I load the Factor Service Manual CD image. 8.1 also supports Drive Space which allows you to create storage using Raid 0, 1, and 5 directly. I have a 4TB Raid 0 installed this way. Win 8.1 supports very fast EFI boot and can be made super fast using an SSD boot drive or better yet, an M.2 SSD directly attached to the PCIe bus.
I trialed Win10 and I believe it has all the 8.1 features and more. The UI allows you to use the Metro tiles or you can use a traditional Start Menu. Sounds like steps in the right direction to me.
If/when I do it, Ima go with an SSD for sure.
The deals on them are getting better all the time. :)
green-lantern
06-30-2015, 12:27 PM
I'm interested in seeing how it works. I am (over)due for a new computer and the quick glimpses I saw looks promising. I have played with Windows 8 and 8.1 and did not like it. The 8.1 laptop even had the added home button.
I really don't understand why they went and changed everything. They thought it would be easier to have the tiles since everyone is so mobile crazy now, but for me its like having your dish towels in a certain drawer for several years, then you remodel and move where you put the towels. You end up going to the wrong place all time because you were so used to going to that same spot before.
Really though, different isn't always better.
Totally agree
The only good thing about it was if it was on a tablet.
Jimvr4
06-30-2015, 12:47 PM
Totally agree
The only good thing about it was if it was on a tablet.
Not true :)
green-lantern
06-30-2015, 12:50 PM
Not true :)
To me it is, I miss XP every time I turn on my laptop.
KeithMac
06-30-2015, 01:43 PM
My tuning Laptop runs XP and it's a godsend!.
green-lantern
06-30-2015, 03:01 PM
My tuning Laptop runs XP and it's a godsend!.
My tuning laptop took a crap. I haven't even tried to run evoscan or anything else on my new one. Greg said he didn't have any luck with winblows 8 but I'm going to give it a shot here soon.
KeithMac
06-30-2015, 03:23 PM
Good luck!. I bought another exactly the same for the cars just in case mine goes tits up.
Jimvr4
07-01-2015, 12:03 AM
Lol, I've been using a Win8.1 Ultrabook with Chrome and Evoscan for over a year
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Chris@Rvengeperformance
07-01-2015, 10:09 AM
Lol, I've been using a Win8.1 Ultrabook with Chrome and Evoscan for over a year
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yes, it works just fine. many windows 8+ devices here, they all work fine.
imno, 8.1 naysayers have never really used the system for long. I wasn't sold on 8 when I got my laptop, but 8.1 is an improvement. It took maybe a week to get adjusted to using it, and I simply put a folder on my desktop called "start menu programs" which contains everything from paint to calculator--I don't really miss the start menu now.
I'm totally going with the free win 10 upgrade. Why? First because it's cheap (free for 7+ users), second because MS will eventually kill support for 8/8.1 (Vista is approaching EOL, XP is already dead). Third, because even though I wasn't sold on 8 (and I nearly paid $100 to downgrade to 7), 8.1 is worth it. With an SSD, I'm running < 20 second HOT reboots (desktop to login). That's even faster than 7 can spit it out.
I refuse to go back. I have to use 7 at work, and it's a pain, imho (although partially because of all the bloatware installed on it). 10 has everything that made 8.1 great--and builds on it. I'm jumping ship at 1st opportunity.
Don't listen to the curmudgeons. If you need a new laptop, get something with 8.1 or 10, and an SSD. You can thank me later. (I also recommend a MINIMUM of 8GB ram, btw).
J-Groove
07-02-2015, 08:58 AM
Windows 8 sucked, plain and simple, it wasn't a buggy piece of shit like Vista when it first came out, but it did over complicate user tasks in attempts to make it "easier". The fact people created plugins for windows 8 just so you could turn it off says something.
Now Windows 8.1 (really just windows 8 SP1) fixed all of the main issues I had with 8. I have two home computers running perfectly on 8.1.
Windows 10, I am hoping it will be like Windows 7. 7 was basically SP3 for Windows Vista and has been an awesome work horse. I am hoping Windows 10 is the same way.
-John
NickS VR4
07-02-2015, 10:33 AM
Windows 8 sucked, plain and simple, it wasn't a buggy piece of shit like Vista when it first came out, but it did over complicate user tasks in attempts to make it "easier". The fact people created plugins for windows 8 just so you could turn it off says something.
Now Windows 8.1 (really just windows 8 SP1) fixed all of the main issues I had with 8. I have two home computers running perfectly on 8.1.
Windows 10, I am hoping it will be like Windows 7. 7 was basically SP3 for Windows Vista and has been an awesome work horse. I am hoping Windows 10 is the same way.
-John
At this point, I've moved past Windows, but get frustrated by the lack of software made for Linux distros. Most have alternatives, but I need a full MS Office, and now Unity3D. For office, I can do most of what I need on their office.live.com (but not everything), and Unity3D is now coming to Linux (currently using it through WINE). I know people have been saying it for years now, but I hope Linux (Debian/Ubuntu) really continues to pick up steam and get developers to make more software for Linux. Loving my Xubuntu 15.04.
I'm actually hoping 10 will be more like 8 sp2. :)
Jimvr4
07-03-2015, 10:09 AM
My only reservation is that I want the complete install setup so I can load Win10 from scratch instead of upgrading. It would be a huge pain to have to build a Win8.1 machine from scratch and then acquire the invitation to Win10 through the Windows update service.
I'm totally going with the free win 10 upgrade. Why? First because it's cheap (free for 7+ users...
My impression was Win10 is 'free-for-a-year', then you have to purchase a license at the regular price. :huh:
Jimvr4
07-03-2015, 10:47 AM
My impression was Win10 is 'free-for-a-year', then you have to purchase a license at the regular price. :huh:
Windows 10 FAQ & Tips - Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?ocid=win10_auxapp_LearnMore_win10faq)
Jimvr4
07-03-2015, 10:56 AM
This is what I will be trying
How to turn your Windows 10 upgrade files into an ISO disk image | ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-turn-your-windows-10-upgrade-into-an-iso/)
This is what I will be trying
How to turn your Windows 10 upgrade files into an ISO disk image | ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-turn-your-windows-10-upgrade-into-an-iso/)
Ah - like the old N-lite/V-lite!
Nice! :)
Jimvr4
08-01-2015, 11:44 AM
It gets even easier :)
Microsoft just provided a media creator tool that downloads and generates an ISO, USB, or DVD media directly. You might need to have reserved for this link to work.
Windows 10 (http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/software-download/windows10?OCID=reserve_r_PostReserve_MediaCreation Tool)
CoopKill
08-01-2015, 10:25 PM
LOvin 10 on my laptop, and in process of upgrading the mrs...
If you have an Elantech touchpad you have to return to a previous driver to get to work. You also mustshut down auto driver install or it will update/kill it constantly.
NickS VR4
08-01-2015, 10:49 PM
I have a Windows 7 Ultimate laptop which I don't really use right now. Is it worth the upgrade? I was thinking of upgrading my wife's cheapo 8.1 laptop first to try it out, but want to wait until she is done getting her Doctorate. Don't want to screw anything up right now, she's almost done.
striker2
08-01-2015, 11:23 PM
I just upgraded my laptop (which I use for tuning Chrome) to 10 from 7. so far its like a compromise between 7 and 8.1 with the start menu back, but its still got the tiles in the start menu. I have never had a problem with the tiles on my desktop which is 8.1 so I will probably upgrade the desktop soon as well. I bypassed the waiting line by using the microsoft tool that you can download from their site. backed up my few important files (just in case) and did the upgrade option instead of the clean install. it installed just fine and all my apps stayed installed (except for an older version of AVG which needed to be updated anyways) and working along with all my files. very easy and pain free.
CoopKill
08-02-2015, 01:16 AM
^^ What he said. With the upgrade selection it is painfree, and unlike past upgrades I did not need to reinstall anything with the exception of a new version of antivirus, and roll back 1 driver due to the updated one not working. I really am amazed how easy, complete, and trouble free it is.
Mikes2nd
08-03-2015, 01:10 PM
yeah 10 is pretty nice, 8.1 can pretty much be brought back though with the tablet mode.
Windows 10 activation/installs surpassed Chrome and Linix in one day (14 million activations)... that's 10,000 activations per minute...
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NickS VR4
08-22-2015, 02:16 PM
Mike, that is a horrible statistical analysis. That's like saying when Ubuntu released it's new LTS version, that it beats out all other OS activations in a single day. It's not new purchases, it's an upgrade.
Anyhow, I just set up a virtualbox to see what all the hype is about. Installed Windows 7 Ultimate last night, been running updates all day and night, finally getting Windows 10 to install, and I noticed my 50GB of space I gave the OS is cutting it close. Just a barebones (not additional software) windows install is already taking up over 35GB.
Edit: It's more like when the next iOS version or Mac OS version comes out with a free upgrade. Of course everyone jumps on the upgrade. Market share didn't increase, just shifted from one version to another.
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