Official 2015 NFL Discussion Thread

[IPD]

Only 12 more months until the NFL hands the Patriots yet another Super Bowl win on a silver platter! :D

[sergechronos]

But offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell said Lockette shares the blame.
Lockette "could have been stronger through the ball," Bevell pointed out to reporters multiple times.

- Bevell: Lockette 'could have been stronger' to ball - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000467672/article/bevell-lockette-could-have-been-stronger-to-ball?campaign=Facebook_atn_rosenthal)

for what it's worth, I do think that Lockette could've been stronger to the ball like the OC says. Watching the play, you can see he looks like he flops and gestures for a flag. That said, still a shitty playcall not to run it IMO. Realistic worst case, lose a yard or two and waste some clock. Still leaves 2 downs and 30 seconds to score with a timeout left.

[j2k4]

First SB prediction for the upcoming year:

Packers vs Patsies. :)

[j2k4]

for what it's worth, I do think that Lockette could've been stronger to the ball like the OC says. Watching the play, you can see he looks like he flops and gestures for a flag. That said, still a shitty playcall not to run it IMO. Realistic worst case, lose a yard or two and waste some clock. Still leaves 2 downs and 30 seconds to score with a timeout left.

I believe Lockette thought he'd be unimpeded to the ball, and thought he was moving with proper alacrity.

I doubt Lockette had a clue Butler was going to even be a factor, given Butler's angle-of-attack - made possible by the corner jamming Kearse and not allowing him to 'pick' Butler - I think that is proven out by the gymnastics Lockette went through on his way to the ground, which strongly indicate he wasn't anticipating any sort of collision.

Likewise, I think it was this lack of anticipation that led him to gesture for a flag.

[j2k4]

Also:

Has it occurred to anyone next year we will be watching 'Super Bowl L'?

That's just weird...:huh:

[Echo419]

damn beat me to the thread. :cry:

[j2k4]

damn beat me to the thread. :cry:

Mental agility = only strong suit I have left, Bobby. :wink:

[Echo419]

Mental agility = only strong suit I have left, Bobby. :wink:

actually I was referring to Carlos Dominguez making the thread before me. so maybe not after all ;)

:lol:

[j2k4]

actually I was referring to Carlos Stinky-Finger making the thread before me. so maybe not after all ;)

:lol:

/ftfy

[CoreyB]

Already looking forward to next year. Just think of the possibilities, Brady could get his 5th ring, 4th SB MVP and 7th appearance.

And the damn Falcons are cheating again Falcons Crowd Noise Investigation: Latest Details, Possible Penalties and More | Bleacher Report (http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2349940-falcons-crowd-noise-investigation-latest-details-possible-penalties-and-more)

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Also:

Has it occurred to anyone next year we will be watching 'Super Bowl L'?

That's just weird...:huh:

No, they're not doing that. It will be called "Super Bowl 50".

Jeremy

[HilbillyHomeboy]

And one for good measure:

http://i.imgur.com/VncVoNN.jpg

[stealthee]

for what it's worth, I do think that Lockette could've been stronger to the ball like the OC says. Watching the play, you can see he looks like he flops and gestures for a flag. That said, still a shitty playcall not to run it IMO. Realistic worst case, lose a yard or two and waste some clock. Still leaves 2 downs and 30 seconds to score with a timeout left.

The OC is a dumbass and is just trying to pass the blame of his terrible playcall. Lockette did what he was asked to do. The DB jumped the route. The only blame of that entire situation falls on Bevell and Carroll for calling an inside pass in the first place.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

It really wasn't a bad strategy. But, yeah, inside pass? How about, no? QB roll out to a corner pass or just through the back of the endzone if it falls apart. Carroll said he (basically) didn't give a shit if the pass worked or not, so why take a risk like that? Cra-zy.

Jeremy

[j2k4]

Also:

Has it occurred to anyone next year we will be watching 'Super Bowl L'?

That's just weird...:huh:


No, they're not doing that. It will be called "Super Bowl 50".

Jeremy

Hmm.

In that case, we should push it ourselves; I know this guy who makes shirts, name of Mitoska... :wink:

[stealthee]

It really wasn't a bad strategy. But, yeah, inside pass? How about, no? QB roll out to a corner pass or just through the back of the endzone if it falls apart. Carroll said he (basically) didn't give a shit if the pass worked or not, so why take a risk like that? Cra-zy.

Jeremy

Agreed 100%. The only pass on that play should have been on a rollout. It gives them a few options at that point. Float it to the corner, throw it away, try to be a defender to the pylon.

Let's forget the fact that Marshawn Lynch is in the backfield, and no coach in the history of football would call an inside slant in that situation. None.

[j2k4]

Well, yeah...but then there's this:

Seahawks? Marshawn Lynch isn?t exactly money from the 1-yard line - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/02/02/seahawks-marshawn-lynch-isnt-exactly-money-from-the-1-yard-line/)

[stealthee]

He had 3 chances from the 1. He wasn't going to be denied.

[CoreyB]

Could of, should of would of, doesn't matter. It was dumb in hind sight, if Butler doesn't intercept that everyone would be calling it a ballsy call that gives them the W.

[sketch]

this thread is way too early. can't start this thread until draft day.

can a mod rename this to the "IPD wants to troll, piss, bitch & moan about something" thread? would be more fitting.

[j2k4]

this thread is way too early. can't start this thread until draft day.

can a mod rename this to the "IPD wants to troll, piss, bitch & moan about something" thread? would be more fitting.

Go ahead and start the thread, Jeffro.

It'll be what Carlos makes of it - with our help, of course. :wink:

[93STLTH]

And the damn Falcons are cheating again Falcons Crowd Noise Investigation: Latest Details, Possible Penalties and More | Bleacher Report (http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2349940-falcons-crowd-noise-investigation-latest-details-possible-penalties-and-more)

https://hownottobeacrazybitch.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/hypgauge2.gif?w=490

[IPD]

this thread is way too early. can't start this thread until draft day.

can a mod rename this to the "IPD wants to troll, piss, bitch & moan about something" thread? would be more fitting.

And yet another shining example of why 90% of the US population would be overjoyed if both Kalifornia and New England simply dropped into the ocean.

[Echo419]

Already looking forward to next year. Just think of the possibilities, Brady could get his 5th ring, 4th SB MVP and 7th appearance.

And the damn Falcons are cheating again Falcons Crowd Noise Investigation: Latest Details, Possible Penalties and More | Bleacher Report (http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2349940-falcons-crowd-noise-investigation-latest-details-possible-penalties-and-more)
I like how you threw on the again even thought they never have before. but you see the difference here is if they did I'll accept it and call the penalty per the rule justified and not make a bunch of BS excuses. ;)

that being said I find it hard to believe. then again maybe they did to drown out the Steelers, Browns and Bears fans so it wouldn't sound like an away game on tv. :dontknow: maybe the cold weather set the speakers off or something. ;)

[CoreyB]

Relax, I was just busting your deflated balls ;) Nobody cares about crowd noise in Atlanta.

[Echo419]

Relax, I was just busting your deflated balls ;) Nobody cares about crowd noise in Atlanta.

that's because it doesn't exist. :lol:

[IPD]

I'm going to go on record as saying the fate of the seachickens is entirely their own fault for ever attempting to steal the noise record from KC. this is OUR record, bitch.

[CoopKill]

I'm going to go on record as saying the fate of the seachickens is entirely their own fault for ever attempting to steal the noise record from KC. this is OUR record, bitch.

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/altidoredive.gif?w=450&h=253

[Echo419]

just heard the press conference and an interview with the new Falcons head coach Dan Quinn and I'm thoroughly impressed. said all the right things, seems very confident and not about playing any games or saying what people "want to hear". I've got a good feeling that in a couple of years we'll be one of the top teams in the league again.

[Mikes2nd]

And I might be a Chinese jet pilot....

In other news Johnny manziel needs an excuse for this season... Checks into rehab

Warren Sapp fired for all kinds of shenanigans

[93STLTH]

So... what was the biggest surprise of the free agency so far? The Bradford for Kolb trade? Graham for Unger? Is it just me, or is Kelly totally screwing up the Eagles?

[stealthee]

So... what was the biggest surprise of the free agency so far? The Bradford for Kolb trade? Graham for Unger? Is it just me, or is Kelly totally screwing up the Eagles?

Not Kolb, Foles....

I have no idea what Kelly is doing with the Eagles. Maybe he has his own new vision??

Trades are crazy, as is the free agent movements.

[93STLTH]

Not Kolb, Foles....

Doh!! Brain fart! I meant Foles.

[Echo419]

this is one of those years where I'll obstain from any form of sports gambling for the first 8 weeks and a girl who drafted a guy because he's cute will win the FF league.

[IPD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fraSdN-PG8

[CoopKill]

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[Echo419]

I don't get it

[IPD]

shouldn't it be a picture of gillette stadium with the same caption?

[93STLTH]

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[Echo419]

I think we can officially say that Trent Richardson is a bust.
Former Pro Bowl Safety Ryan Clark Calls Trent Richardson the "Worst Running Back of All Time" (http://news.yahoo.com/former-pro-bowl-safety-ryan-234445982.html)

Former Pro Bowl Safety Ryan Clark Calls Trent Richardson the "Worst Running Back of All Time"
just look at those holes that he missed. :lmao:

[NickS VR4]

So we have 2 NFL threads on this sub?

[IPD]

So we have 2 NFL threads on this sub?

This one started first. Haterade made the other one.

[Echo419]

This one started first. Haterade made the other one.

Donnie or Mike? :lol:

[NickS VR4]

I want to start one. Maybe I'll just make an "Official 2016 NFL Discussion Thread".

[Echo419]

DIBS ON 2017! :lol:

[IPD]

So granny is a seachickens fan? that's coo. but they'll never be as loud as the chiefs. goddamn fakers is what they are. :p

[Echo419]

So granny is a seachickens fan? that's coo. but they'll never be as loud as the chiefs. goddamn fakers is what they are. :p

if we could get a few Brittany's and Melissa's I know to go to some Falcons games we'd be louder than the both of you put together. ;)

[CoreyB]

Just stopping by to say hi, oh and Brady is innocent.

[j2k4]

Just stopping by to say hi, oh and Brady is innocent.

That's not true.

His penalty was vacated.

Different deal.

In any case, Goodell ought to resign.

[CoopKill]

Just stopping by to say hi, oh and Brady is innocent.

Lies!

[Echo419]

called it. ;)

[IPD]

Just stopping by to say hi, oh and Brady is innocent.

Sure he is. And so is Vester Lee Flanagan.

[Echo419]

they still have to pay the fine and still lose draft picks. the judge just ruled that they couldn't prove Brady's involvement. basically saying that the ball boys just decided to deflate the balls all on their own accord. something we all know would never happen anyways.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

It's actually worse than that. It was said that Brady could not have been aware of the punishment being so severe. Basically, "there's nothing in the rule books that says if you deflate balls, or have knowledge thereof, you will be subject to the same punishment as someone who used PEDs."

I'm just glad it's over so hopefully we don't have to hear about it every 3rd minute of the day. ESPN, you can get back to stroking off LeBron now.

Jeremy

[CoreyB]

You guys always leave out the fact that the balls were never deflated to begin with. You always run right by that lack of evidence and right to judgement on whether the ball boys would do it without Bradys consent.
Questions for those that still dont get it...
When the balls were initially inspected, what were the exact pressures in each one and was it documented?
What gauge was used to measure the balls during the initial inspection?
What gauge was used at half time?
How much under 12.5 were the Patriots balls, bow far under were the Colts?
How many Colts balls were measured?
According to the ideal gas law how much should the balls measure?

Is there any evidence the balls were tampered with? No there isnt, so why are we accusing Brady of cheating?

[Echo419]

http://viralmedialife.com/qfiles/1410761728.jpg

fixed

[j2k4]

You guys always leave out the fact that the balls were never deflated to begin with. You always run right by that lack of evidence and right to judgement on whether the ball boys would do it without Bradys consent.

Lack of evidence...Brady has a "lack of deniability" to match any lack of evidence.

He has the same problem Hillary Clinton has - no explanation for the highly suspicious and damning circumstances that lead unerringly to the conclusion that a cover-up has taken place.

As far as whether-or-not Brady is believable, those of us in the court of public opinion are not bound by any legal considerations, and once again, I find this an ideal time to cite my favorite quote:

"Telling the truth is NOT the same thing as making sure no one can prove you are lying."

[Echo419]

did the balls have to little air in them? yes. is this possible to happen from natural reasons? No. maybe it was a mischevious Pixie or Fairy.

[IPD]

And if there's one thing everyone--outside of the RDF that's at category 5 in NE--is aware of, it's that there's cheating going on there. Only those in NE are going to be shocked in 25-35 years when evidence becomes "unclassified", and players begin writing tell-alls about how much shiens they got away with in NE.

[CoreyB]

Looks like you guys are in more denial than I am lol. When facts dont support your argument you just deny there existence.
Big FACT for Echo, yes the amount of air loss is easily explained by the ideal gas law. Those who want to believe they cheated will believe it regardless of any proof that they didnt. Goodell himself could anounce it publicly that the whole thing was bs and the haters would just accuse him of being bought out.

[IPD]

Make that a category 6 RDF in NE.

[Echo419]

Looks like you guys are in more denial than I am lol. When facts dont support your argument you just deny there existence.
Big FACT for Echo, yes the amount of air loss is easily explained by the ideal gas law. Those who want to believe they cheated will believe it regardless of any proof that they didnt. Goodell himself could anounce it publicly that the whole thing was bs and the haters would just accuse him of being bought out.

quite the opposite actually. otherwise it would be a simple appeal to save the fine and draft picks. but they're not doing that. I'll let you guess to as why.

[CoreyB]

Its not new news, its been out there for a long time Scientist finds 'glaring omission' in Deflategate report | FOX Sports (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-england-patriots-tom-brady-deflategate-scientist-050715)

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Its not new news, its been out there for a long time Scientist finds 'glaring omission' in Deflategate report | FOX Sports (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-england-patriots-tom-brady-deflategate-scientist-050715)

Physics Professor: Deflategate Report?s Science Holds Up - Patriots - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/2015/05/06/physics-professor-deflategate-report-science-holds/T2HqI3vFVivr9grXOD2VEI/story.html)

[j2k4]

It's global warming all over again...:rolleyes:

[HilbillyHomeboy]

It's global warming all over again...:rolleyes:

Yep. I couldn't give a shit about Brady, but I'll play the link game just to get Corey's goat. :D

Jeremy

[CoreyB]

Deflating Deflategate: Confusion about basic science could have wrongly smeared Tom Brady (http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com//fp-comment/deflating-deflategate-confusion-about-basic-science-could-have-wrongly-smeared-tom-brady)

[onebadmollafolla]

Deflating Deflategate: Confusion about basic science could have wrongly smeared Tom Brady (http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com//fp-comment/deflating-deflategate-confusion-about-basic-science-could-have-wrongly-smeared-tom-brady)


We get it. The Patriots cheat. It's not some sort of controversial subject, they cheat. When they cheat, fans do all sorts of mental gymnastics to convince thselves they don't cheat. However, everyone still knows they do. Post whatever you need to post in order for you to be able to sleep at night because that's the only demographic you're convincing - Pats fans with the same need to try to explain their team.

[j2k4]

Yep. I couldn't give a shit about Brady, but I'll play the link game just to get Corey's goat. :D

Jeremy

I've seen Corey's goat - it's a homely little fucker, but Corey is quite attached to it. :)

[CoreyB]

You cant have my goat.

[Echo419]

It's global warming all over again...:rolleyes:

pretty much. I'm right and someone from the New England area doesn't believe it. :lmao:

[IPD]

You cant have my goat.

Is it keeping Cornelius company in that bathtub?

:suspect:

P.S.
the most noteworthy thing about your 1st link was the chick doing the interview.

[sergechronos]

After glossing over most of this debate, I'd like to point out that I despise NE as much as the next guy, however if you think every team in the NFL isn't doing as much as they possibly can (to include messing with the balls) then you are in denial. I don't think it changed the course of the game in any meaningful way, and there is no evidence that it was a season long event either. Fact is, with or without the suspension, NE probably is going to walk to another division crown.

[IPD]

After glossing over most of this debate, I'd like to point out that I despise NE as much as the next guy, however if you think every team in the NFL isn't doing as much as they possibly can (to include messing with the balls) then you are in denial. I don't think it changed the course of the game in any meaningful way, and there is no evidence that it was a season long event either. Fact is, with or without the suspension, NE probably is going to walk to another division crown.

But that's also why we keep electing morons to lead this country. Can't stop inertia.

[NickS VR4]

Am I the only one happy that Brady will be playing the Cowboys now?

[IPD]

Am I the only one happy that Brady will be playing the Cowboys now?

I'd be happier if he were playing against Seal Team 6.

[CoopKill]

Reports: Seahawks agree to one-year deal with Fred Jackson | FOX Sports (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seattle-seahawks-fred-jackson-one-year-contract-090415)

[93STLTH]

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[93STLTH]

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[CoopKill]

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[CoopKill]

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[stealthee]

LOL, I was going to post that one yesterday.

[CoopKill]

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[IPD]

So KC just handed the game away yesterday. So many chances. So many failed 3rd down conversions.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Yep, that was painful. FIVE turnovers... I would drill the fuck out of Charles this week. Nothing but ball protection, over and over. Completely unacceptable for a player of his caliber.

Jeremy

[IPD]

Romo fumbled BEFORE he hit the ground. Let the record show.

[CoreyB]

How about that Tom Brady? The guy just gets better with age. I know his abilities will eventually decline but for now he is just awesome.

[IPD]

Strawberry. :corey: says Tom's balls taste like strawberry.

[NickS VR4]

Eagles v. Cowboys, the most pathetic display of Football I've even seen.

[stealthee]

RHomo out probably at least 5 weeks with a sandy vagina.

[onebadmollafolla]

http://i.imgur.com/Vg0fWLe.jpg



"I guess God must have been a Packers fan tonight."

:lol: Very well played.

[IPD]

Horrible use of image mirroring.

[IPD]

I feel bad for Luck. I haven't seen an O-line this bad since Carr was in Houston. Good god man.

[Echo419]

I feel bad for Luck. I haven't seen an O-line this bad since Carr was in Houston. Good god man.

might not be so bad if he had 1 receiver worth a damn. even when he got protection he still got creamed because no one was open.

[93STLTH]

I feel bad for Luck. I haven't seen an O-line this bad since Carr was in Houston. Good god man.

Kind of funny since the Redskins realized 2 years ago they needed to build up the line to protect Griffin from his injuries. Now they have one of the best O-lines in the NFL and have decided Griffin won't be their QB anymore. The running game is now the beneficiary of the upgraded line.

[CoreyB]

I am surprised the Colts look so bad.

Was Fitzpatrick chewing gum the whole time he played? Anyone else notice that, was weird.

[IPD]

Might have been a combination of how much the colts suck (the # of changes to their o-line is downright hilarious), combined with a Jets Defense that reportedly has 9, 1st round draft picks on it.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

The o-line mash up is troublesome, but even when Luck did have time, or scrambled to make time, the receivers were straight getting their asses kicked. Granted, the Jets defense is no joke, but those receivers have got to win the battles some of the time. But, it's also beyond difficult to open up the pass game when you can't run the ball, which falls back on the o-line. Lot of problems in Indy...

Jeremy

[j2k4]

Might have been a combination of how much the colts suck (the # of changes to their o-line is downright hilarious), combined with a Jets Defense that reportedly has 9, 1st round draft picks on it.


The o-line mash up is troublesome, but even when Luck did have time, or scrambled to make time, the receivers were straight getting their asses kicked. Granted, the Jets defense is no joke, but those receivers have got to win the battles some of the time. But, it's also beyond difficult to open up the pass game when you can't run the ball, which falls back on the o-line. Lot of problems in Indy...

Jeremy

So the Colts suck?


Life is good...:D

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Didn't they start off 0-2 last year? Made the AFC championship game? I wouldn't count them out just yet, but they do have a lot to fix.

Jeremy

[j2k4]

Didn't they start off 0-2 last year? Made the AFC championship game? I wouldn't count them out just yet, but they do have a lot to fix.

Jeremy

So if they pull that off again, life will be a little less-good.

I have a grudge against the Colts organization...sue me.

My Dad is from Baltimore.

He and my Gramp used to take me to the Colt Lanes in Woodlawn - I met ALL the old Colts; Unitas, Berry, Moore, Matte, Marchetti, Parker, Big Daddy Lipscomb...Artie Donovan used to throw me around like a little ragdoll.

I will never forgive Bob Irsay for moving the franchise to Indy.

NEVER.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Oh, I don't care about the Colts. Chiefs or GTFO.

But, that's amazing you got to meet all those guys. Wow!!

Jeremy

[IPD]

Meh. Baltimore has had 2 rings since that happened. Indy has only 1. Kev has sand in his vag.

[j2k4]

Meh. Baltimore has had 2 rings since that happened. Indy has only 1. Kev has sand in his vag.

Not my point, Carlos, and you know it, cuz PackerFan. :wink:

[onebadmollafolla]

I harbor no ill will for the Colts. That said, they looked beyond awful last night. That was hard to watch.

[IPD]

Not my point, Carlos, and you know it, cuz PackerFan. :wink:

I'm sure the Lions appreciate the defection in the home-state fans. Although then again, I suppose apart from the Red Wings, Detroit really has suffered enough.

[Echo419]

I'm sure the Lions appreciate the defection in the home-state fans. Although then again, I suppose apart from the Red Wings, Detroit really has suffered enough.

they're victims of their own labors. I have no pitty.

[j2k4]

I'm sure the Lions appreciate the defection in the home-state fans. Although then again, I suppose apart from the Red Wings, Detroit really has suffered enough.

I can't call it a defection - I'm about 200 miles from GB, 575 from Detroit.

[IPD]

Oh, so you're Canadian. In 'Muricah, we don't speak freaky-deaky french...or name our cities that way.

[j2k4]

And you're in Mexico, speaking Greek...:huh:

[IPD]

Why is your member outraged? Is it not getting enough punani?

[Echo419]

and I'm on the island in LOST and quite possibly am speaking Jibberish.

[j2k4]

Why is your member outraged? Is it not getting enough punani?

Russell Peters fan?

[CoreyB]

Wait what is this thread about? I thought this is where people came to bitch about the Patriots.

[j2k4]

Wait what is this thread about? I thought this is where people came to bitch about the Patriots.

We stopped cuz you were upset, Cbot. :wink:

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Lay off the bath salts.

Jeremy

[j2k4]

Lay off the bath salts.

Jeremy

Eh? :huh:

[93STLTH]

Damn Redskins sh*t the bed in prime time once again. Since 2008, here's the scores of their prime time embarrassments:
16-7
23-6
27-17
45-12
59-28
18-16
33-26
33-27
34-27
27-6
45-14
27-17

I think they've only had 3 wins in prime time since 2008 and the losses have been colossal blunders. If you missed last night, they got a punt blocked for a safety, threw an int. when pinned back inside their 10 and fumbled the ball out of the endzone when going in for a TD that would have cut it to a manageable 12 pt game.

[Echo419]

I saw that first punt almost get blocked then right before they rekicked it I knew it was going to get blocked. when I saw it was a safety I knew it was over.

[j2k4]

Damn Redskins sh*t the bed in prime time once again. Since 2008, here's the scores of their prime time embarrassments:
16-7
23-6
27-17
45-12
59-28
18-16
33-26
33-27
34-27
27-6
45-14
27-17

I think they've only had 3 wins in prime time since 2008 and the losses have been colossal blunders. If you missed last night, they got a punt blocked for a safety, threw an int. when pinned back inside their 10 and fumbled the ball out of the endzone when going in for a TD that would have cut it to a manageable 12 pt game.

My favorite Redskins prime-time fuckup OF ALL TIME:

Monday Night Football - October 17, 1983: Green Bay 48, Washington 47 (http://espn.go.com/abcsports/mnf/s/gbwashclassic.html)

[93STLTH]

My favorite Redskins prime-time fuckup OF ALL TIME:

Monday Night Football - October 17, 1983: Green Bay 48, Washington 47 (http://espn.go.com/abcsports/mnf/s/gbwashclassic.html)

But that was actually a good game, back and forth with very little defense played by either team. The ones I posted were all total screw-ups on the Skins part. Even the close ones were only close because of late, meaningless scores when the game was already lost.

[j2k4]

But that was actually a good game, back and forth with very little defense played by either team. The ones I posted were all total screw-ups on the Skins part. Even the close ones were only close because of late, meaningless scores when the game was already lost.

I called it a fuckup cuz it was a Redskins Super Bowl year; Packers didn't even belong on the same field as the 'Skins, but yeah, it WAS entertaining.

I was kinda hoping you'd remember it too, you old fart. :D

[stealthee]

One of the best recent Redskins prime time showings came when they beat the Cowgirls a few years back for the NFC East title though. :D

I still remember watching that game. I was seeing a girl that lived in the Richmond area and went to visit her that weekend. We went out to dinner at Applebee's and they had the game on there, with sound on and everything. There were a ton of Redskins fans there as well as some Cowboys fans, wearing their garb and all.

As the game was winding down and the announcers were talking about "Romo's magic" and how he could lead them down the field to victory I said, out loud, "Now's about the time Romo throws a pick."

There were two Boys fans sitting at the table next to us on the next level down and they both gave me the stink eye. Wouldn't you know it, Romo throws an INT the very next play. I busted out laughing, my girlfriend busted out laughing, the Cowboys fans slammed there hands on the table, gave me a dirty look, and walked out the restaurant.

[j2k4]

One of my favorite things in all the world is a chapped Cowboys fan. :D

[onebadmollafolla]

Headed to Green Bay tomorrow at the buttcrack of dawn. Monday night football should be epic. Go Pack!

[IPD]

Headed to Green Bay tomorrow at the buttcrack of dawn. Monday night football should be epic. Go Pack!

Only thing that will determine the game, is if Charles can hold onto the ball. ;)

[j2k4]

Only thing that will determine the game, is if Charles can hold onto the ball. ;)

Eh?

Ah, sure, why not?

Place your bets...:p

[onebadmollafolla]

Eh?

Ah, sure, why not?

Place your bets...:p

Don't count the Chefs out. They have a solid D. Spread of -7 is too high in my opinion. That said, Pack is very very good at home. Either way, it's not a make or break for us. Should be a good game. Worst part of losing this game for me wouldn't be so much the loss itself, but all the ruthless Chefs friends of mine.

[j2k4]

Don't count the Chefs out. They have a solid D. Spread of -7 is too high in my opinion. That said, Pack is very very good at home. Either way, it's not a make or break for us. Should be a good game. Worst part of losing this game for me wouldn't be so much the loss itself, but all the ruthless Chefs friends of mine.

Oh, the Chiefs are gonna give us a tussle, but I'm actually - just for the fuck of it - trying to be as blindly and illogically faithful to my team as Pats-fans are routinely.

Feels like I'm out about 5 feet on a four-inch branch, and I weigh 290. :lo5l:

[onebadmollafolla]

100 miles outside Green Bay. Panel van decked out in Chef's decals.


http://i.imgur.com/v4F75ky.jpg

[CoreyB]

Tom Brady would like to say fuck you to all his haters.

[IPD]

So he's decided to issue a collective middle finger to everyone outside of new-england?

[Echo419]

Tom Brady would like to say fuck you to all his haters.

saving this for the next time they get caught cheating.

[j2k4]

Tom Brady would like to say fuck you to all his haters.

Well, he likes Trump, so he's picking up some more haters...:p

[Echo419]

Pats have the same record as the Falcons. chew on that. :lol:

[onebadmollafolla]

Beyond tired. It hurts to blink. Here's one. GO PACK!


http://i.imgur.com/uCPII9v.jpg

[Echo419]

f*cking Randal Cobb. I was up like 60pts. then he and like 2 other guys pulled off a 2% chance of beating me this week. :rant:

[j2k4]

Kinda dominant, are my Packers...:D

[Echo419]

Kinda dominant, are my Packers...:D

to be totally fair the Chiefs haven't had a passing TD to a WR in about forever. When was Elvis Gerbach's last year there?

[IPD]

Yeah. This chief's team would do fantastic back in the 1960's run game.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Went pretty much as I expected. With the entire secondary out, I suspected Rodgers would have a field day...and he certainly did. KC offense didn't do themselves any favors, either. Lot of work to do in KC... :/

Jeremy

[93STLTH]

Tom Brady would like to say fuck you to all his haters.

And with the Pats up 37-10 going into the 4th quarter, Brady stayed in the game so they could run up the score. THIS is why 95% of the country hates the Patriots.
When one of his own linemen rolls into his leg, hyperextending his knee, in the 4th quarter of a 28 point blowout, because Belicheat refused to pull him, karma will be served.

[NickS VR4]

http://i.imgur.com/uuZyzUu.jpg

[IPD]

And with the Pats up 37-10 going into the 4th quarter, Brady stayed in the game so they could run up the score. THIS is why 95% of the country hates the Patriots.
When one of his own linemen rolls into his leg, hyperextending his knee, in the 4th quarter of a 28 point blowout, because Belicheat refused to pull him, karma will be served.

That's another reason why Peyton is better. Peyton HAS gotten pulled--and his career numbers are still better.

[CoreyB]

And with the Pats up 37-10 going into the 4th quarter, Brady stayed in the game so they could run up the score. THIS is why 95% of the country hates the Patriots.
When one of his own linemen rolls into his leg, hyperextending his knee, in the 4th quarter of a 28 point blowout, because Belicheat refused to pull him, karma will be served.

I think you are missing the point. Brady is staying in the game and running up the score because he is pissed that people like you question his accomplishments. So now he is going around throwing it in the face of all the haters, keep hating and Brady will keep winning.
And the idea of him getting hurt in a game he no longer needs to be in, that's new, haven't heard that for the past 10+ years.... Ever seen a team lose a game they were basically guaranteed a win in the last few minutes? I have, GB Vs Seattle in the NFC championship game rings a bell. The Patriots have a saying, its called "60 minutes".

[CoreyB]

That's another reason why Peyton is better. Peyton HAS gotten pulled--and his career numbers are still better.

Peyton better than Brady, that is hilarious. Its not even a debate anymore, nobody of any creditably would try to make that argument.

[j2k4]

Brady is staying in the game and running up the score because he is pissed that people like you question his accomplishments. So now he is going around throwing it in the face of all the haters...

It's Brady's decision to stay in the game?

It's Brady's decision to run up the score?

Really?

[IPD]

Peyton better than Brady, that is hilarious. Its not even a debate anymore, nobody IN NEW ENGLAND of any creditably would try to make that argument.

ftfy.

Tom Brady is like the MJ of the NFL--the bit players are what make him so great. He's got the good fortune to have the NFL's Phil Jackson coaching, and the best supporting cast in the league. MJ without Scottie Pippen, Horce Grant & Phil Jackson---would be the Dan Marino of the NBA at best; he's pretty darn good, but can't possibly be called GOAT. And that's not even mentioning the continuous cheating that--hand to god--is still going on this day behind closed doors in Foxboro.

ONLY an overzealous NE fan (actually, there are no other types) would credibly argue that Brady's overall QB numbers are better than Peyton's. All NE fans care about are rings--and that's why Belicheat is willing to stop at nothing to keep racking them up (what, I lose a draft pick? LOLOL!) And when Brady is forced to retire, NE will acquire another Curtis Painter to replace him, and will CONTINUE to go to the playoffs at 12-4. Unless, of course, Belicheat calls it quits too. And that's quite possible--because it would allow NE fans to remain smug forever--even though their team would instantly return to Tampa Bay/Oakland status.

[IPD]

It's Brady's decision to stay in the game?

It's Brady's decision to run up the score?

Really?

You know that the RDF is impossibly strong up there. Probably feels like being on acid--just stepping off a plane in Boston.

[j2k4]

You know that the RDF is impossibly strong up there. Probably feels like being on acid--just stepping off a plane in Boston.

Heh...

[Echo419]

never mind that division being a complete dumpster fire for like 15 years has nothing to do with it. :lol:

[IPD]

Last time the AFC East had 3 teams in the playoffs in 1 year (which is usually a solid indicator of conference strength)--was 2001. It's happened in the AFC north quite a bit more, recently (a bit less with the AFC South, NFC East, AFC West, etc--but still more recently). Ironically, that's also when this "dynasty" happened. I'm sure spygate had nothing to do with that coincidence. /sarcasm

[HilbillyHomeboy]

2001 is quite the operative date, as well. Considering that's the year BEFORE realignment. That division has been dead ever since. Pats have been the only team worth mentioning in the East. Buffalo looks like they may make some noise this year. Jets are getting better, but still a ways to go. Miami is still schizo.

IIRC, the "other teams" (aka not the Steelers) of the North have been to to the playoffs 15 times and won 1 superbowl since realignment. The "other teams" (aka not the Pats) of the East have been to the playoffs 6 times.

Jeremy

[CoreyB]

Its funny watching people try to make sense out of how the Patriots could be so good for so long. Yes the AFC east has been terrible for a long time, last I checked the Patriots rarely see those teams in the playoffs and never in the SB. Go back and look at who the Pats had to play last year, I think you will find they had to play pretty much all the top teams regardless of conference and I think they ended up doing ok.

So if its not the weak division, and its not under-inflated footballs (As is obvious when looking at a SB victory against the best D in football and ridiculous stats in 3 consecutive games) could it be, just maybe that Brady is a damn good QB (the GOAT to most people including Montana) and Belichick is an amazing coach?

[j2k4]

Okay, Corey.

If we grant as unassailable fact (and I think most would) that Brady is a superb quarterback, and that Belichik is likewise a visionary coach...why did they need to cheat?

Why can't you get beyond the ball-inflation issue and grant us those facts?

The Pats have a history of cheating, and that's all there is to it - whether or not they continue to cheat will be revealed in the fullness of time.

[CoreyB]

Why can't you guys look at facts, a judges ruling, a court transcript and realize no cheating was going on. Hell the NFL just reinstated the 2 ball boys.

[j2k4]

Why can't you realize the NFL, as a government-endorsed monopoly, will never have to suffer the critical examination that would occur in a court of law, and as such is doomed to operate under a cloud of suspicion?

The owners have a nicely-constructed cocoon of deniability.

The NFL is like a good hot-dog - tastes fine, but you really don't want to see how it's made.

[CoreyB]

Lmao what does any of that have to do with my post? Are you saying the NFL is corrupt and can't be trusted? But if they tell you something bad about the Patriots you trust them wholeheartedly?

[IPD]

Why can't you guys look at facts, a judges ruling, a court transcript and realize no cheating was going on. Hell the NFL just reinstated the 2 ball boys.

Oh, you mean plus all the admissions of systemic, long-term cheating going on back to (and likely before) their 1st victory in 2001? Plus all of the pressure from DER KOMMISAR to sweep it under the rug so that the NFL "wouldn't have to deal with a scandal like the MLB"? Sorry, but the entire patriots organization will be recorded in history along side the likes of Pete Rose, the Black Sox & Lance Armstrong.

[IPD]

Lmao what does any of that have to do with my post? Are you saying the NFL is corrupt and can't be trusted? But if they tell you something bad about the Patriots you trust them wholeheartedly?

:corey:, the NFL's oversight credibility is about as poor as the USAF's--and likely worse. This is but one story amongst dozens that indicate a clear lack of due-process, oversight & leadership at the O-6 level and up...in many places.

http://www.jqpublicblog.com/congress-demands-answers-from-air-force-in-laughlin-witch-hunt/

Much like the USAF, I would not be surprised to see the NFL forced to capitulate with 3rd party oversight--due to catastrophic failures within the organization to self-police appropriately.

[j2k4]

Okay.

So the NFL is a cozy affair...so cozy, in fact, that the Commissioner and the the owner of the Pats conspire to destroy evidence of cheating in order to keep the "health of the league" from jeopardy - for the good of the other owners, which fact they can definitely get behind, cuz, well, MONOPOLY.

Since discussing any of this openly is arguably a threat to the entire league, Pats-fans are directed to deride those whose unblinkered view of things irritates them.

I don't blame you for all this, Corey - even Roger Goodell (the 45-million-dollar man) can't figure out how it works.

Funny fact:

As inept as Goodell is, he's worth in excess of 2X what Brady is worth to the owners.

Sounds right to me - how about you? :D

[Echo419]

Why can't you guys look at facts, a judges ruling, a court transcript and realize no cheating was going on. Hell the NFL just reinstated the 2 ball boys.
umm no. the judge ruled that the penalty of a 4 game suspension was over the top. he did not rule that they cheated or not. when in fact they did and still had to pay the fine and lost the draft pick. had he ruled that no cheating happened the fine and draft pick would have been overturned like the suspension.
the ballboys were suspended and reinstated by the Pats not the league.

Oh, you mean plus all the admissions of systemic, long-term cheating going on back to (and likely before) their 1st victory in 2001? Plus all of the pressure from DER KOMMISAR to sweep it under the rug so that the NFL "wouldn't have to deal with a scandal like the MLB"? Sorry, but the entire patriots organization will be recorded in history along side the likes of Pete Rose, the Black Sox & Lance Armstrong.
is he in town?!
http://images.45cat.com/falco-der-kommissar-am.jpg
ut-oh!

[CoreyB]

umm no. the judge ruled that the penalty of a 4 game suspension was over the top. he did not rule that they cheated or not. when in fact they did and still had to pay the fine and lost the draft pick. had he ruled that no cheating happened the fine and draft pick would have been overturned like the suspension.
the ballboys were suspended and reinstated by the Pats not the league.

is he in town?!
http://images.45cat.com/falco-der-kommissar-am.jpg
ut-oh!

Wrong on many accounts, because well, you didn't actually listen or read anything involving the case.

The courts ruling was that Brady was not treated fairly by the league, this was the only ruling he could make. The case was about whether the league had the power to treat a player the way they treated Brady, whether the process was fair. The judge was not allowed to rule on whether or not a violation was committed. He did however do a good job of destroying the NFL's case against Brady, even getting them to admit that they had zero evidence that Brady did anything wrong. He also questioned the Wells report when he discovered the little detail about the league using 2 different gauges to measure the balls. One gauge for pre-game (higher reading gauge) and one for half time inspection (lower reading gauge). When the league tested the balls at half time they tested them with the higher gauge 1st, this put the balls at an acceptable deflation from the weather, the league didnt like this so they switched to the lower reading gauge. Anyone who actually followed the case in court or actually read the Wells report knows this whole case was BS.

Goodell tried to tell the judge that it didnt matter if Brady did anything, it didnt matter if he treated Brady fairly, that he had the power to do anything he wanted. The judge disagreed.

The ball boys were suspended because the league asked the Pats to suspend them. The Patriots in complying with the league, as they did throughout the entire process suspended them. A little over a week ago the Pats asked the league to allow them to reinstate the ball boys, the league agreed and they got their jobs back. You can read here if you want Patriots asking for reinstatement of Deflategate ball boys - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/patriots-reinstatement-deflategate-ball-boys-article-1.2353454)

[j2k4]

So, it's the NFL conspiring against Belichik, Brady, Kraft and the rest of the Pats? :lo5l:

[IPD]

Lol. Goddell dropped the hammer on the Pats because he basically sucked Belicheat's cock when spygate erupted---and he pissed off EVERYONE in the NFL outside of NE when that happened. That's why Kraft was so pissed about the initial ruling against Brady--because he (butthurt) believe that Goddell was again going to gargle his balls.

Of course, since Goddell is--in fact--still in cahoots with NE, the intial "strong showing" to give Goddell public-face credibility, was soon lifted so that he could continue being buddy-buddy with his favorite owner in the NFL. Goddell is pulling off the NFL equivalent of what Turkey is doing with Syria/Iraq.

[j2k4]

In other news, comedian Bill Cosby has been accused of drugging countless women for sexual purposes.

Cosby has remained largely silent on the matter, preferring to allow his layers to carry that particular ball.

Subsequently, court records were opened (how did THAT happen?) which indicated that, in order to financially settle prior legal complaints from an incomplete record of women who had similar sexual congress with Mr. Cosby, required him to elocute as to events between him and these women, where he freely admitted to drugging the women in order to have unimpeded sex with them.

This was, presumptively, to satisfy the record in order to complete those legal proceedings.

Mr. Cosby was not, however, subject to any criminal liability in that case.

So, from this example, we may draw the conclusion that while certain things may happen, the normal stink associated with them can be made to disappear, if one (or more) of the parties involved wishes that to happen.

Corey, do you regard Bill Cosby as having committed any sort of legal trespass, given those circumstances?

[CoreyB]

W T F There is absolutely no comparison there. NONE lol.

[Echo419]

Wrong on many accounts, because well, you didn't actually listen or read anything involving the case.

The courts ruling was that Brady was not treated fairly by the league, this was the only ruling he could make. The case was about whether the league had the power to treat a player the way they treated Brady, whether the process was fair. The judge was not allowed to rule on whether or not a violation was committed. He did however do a good job of destroying the NFL's case against Brady, even getting them to admit that they had zero evidence that Brady did anything wrong. He also questioned the Wells report when he discovered the little detail about the league using 2 different gauges to measure the balls. One gauge for pre-game (higher reading gauge) and one for half time inspection (lower reading gauge). When the league tested the balls at half time they tested them with the higher gauge 1st, this put the balls at an acceptable deflation from the weather, the league didnt like this so they switched to the lower reading gauge. Anyone who actually followed the case in court or actually read the Wells report knows this whole case was BS.

Goodell tried to tell the judge that it didnt matter if Brady did anything, it didnt matter if he treated Brady fairly, that he had the power to do anything he wanted. The judge disagreed.

The ball boys were suspended because the league asked the Pats to suspend them. The Patriots in complying with the league, as they did throughout the entire process suspended them. A little over a week ago the Pats asked the league to allow them to reinstate the ball boys, the league agreed and they got their jobs back. You can read here if you want Patriots asking for reinstatement of Deflategate ball boys - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/patriots-reinstatement-deflategate-ball-boys-article-1.2353454)

you say I'm wrong on many accounts then confirm everything I said. :lmao:

me: the judge ruled that the penalty of a 4 game suspension was over the top.
you: Brady was not treated fairly by the league.
over the top/not treated fairly. I'm not sure how you can interpret that any other way.

me: he did not rule that they cheated or not.
you: this was the only ruling he could make
again, I already referenced the ruling he made and that he did not make another. fact. regardless of why that's what happened. you can't get around that even with Belicheat logic.


even getting them to admit that they had zero evidence that Brady did anything wrong
you're right. but for some reason Jesu....sorry Brady felt the need to destroy his phone. literally every former player and coach interviewed or that commented on this said that the chances the "ballboy" decided to deflate the balls on his own for a playoff game because he thought Jesu...damn it Brady, would want it that way if demonstratibly felaticious at best.


He also questioned the Wells report when he discovered the little detail about the league using 2 different gauges to measure the balls. One gauge for pre-game (higher reading gauge) and one for half time inspection (lower reading gauge).
um so? unless these gauges were proven to be inaccurate via a certified calibration test by the department of weights and measures that's a moot point at best.


Goodell tried to tell the judge that it didnt matter if Brady did anything, it didnt matter if he treated Brady fairly, that he had the power to do anything he wanted. The judge disagreed.
see Carlos' comments on this matter.

on a side note what business is it of the federal gov't how the NFL of all places deciplines it's members?

me: ballboys were suspended and reinstated by the Pats not the league.
you: league asked the Pats to suspend them. The Patriots in complying with the league, as they did throughout the entire process suspended them. A little over a week ago the Pats asked the league to allow them to reinstate the ball boys,

you can spin it however you want. the fact remains the the Pats were the ones doing the suspending and the reinstating. I can tell you to jump and if you jump then you jumped. that does not mean I jumped.


I'm sorry that your team/owner/players are cheaters. that sucks big time. what sucks even more is that they can't man up, admit it and fix their behavior like others have. what next? are yopu going to try and tell us that Barry Bonds wasn't using drugs because he didn't do the injecting himself? :lol:

[Echo419]

In other news, comedian Bill Cosby has been accused of drugging countless women for sexual purposes.

Cosby has remained largely silent on the matter, preferring to allow his layers to carry that particular ball.

Subsequently, court records were opened (how did THAT happen?) which indicated that, in order to financially settle prior legal complaints from an incomplete record of women who had similar sexual congress with Mr. Cosby, required him to elocute as to events between him and these women, where he freely admitted to drugging the women in order to have unimpeded sex with them.

This was, presumptively, to satisfy the record in order to complete those legal proceedings.

Mr. Cosby was not, however, subject to any criminal liability in that case.

So, from this example, we may draw the conclusion that while certain things may happen, the normal stink associated with them can be made to disappear, if one (or more) of the parties involved wishes that to happen.

Corey, do you regard Bill Cosby as having committed any sort of legal trespass, given those circumstances?
it always baffles me when these celebrities drug/rape women assuming he is actually guilty. I have no idea. women are constantly throwing themselves at rich and famous men. the need to do this is literally zero. in fact if anything he would have to drug them so he could escape their pursuits.

[IPD]

Offer pudding pops, watch the panties drop.

[CoreyB]

Obviously none of the haters will ever admit to being wrong on deflategate. But hey, why not let the haters enjoy even more as I show them that their teams in fact have cheated MORE than the Patriots. So with that I will deflect and post this Your Team Cheats - The Definitive Guide to NFL Cheating (http://yourteamcheats.com/)

I know I know, only one of those teams has been exceptional for the past 15 years, so all those other cheating teams dont count.

Go ahead with your post's like "Typical Pats fan, deflects by pointing out other teams".

[Echo419]

:lol: tell me that wasn't written by a Pats fan. :lol:

so lets take the Falcons for example.

Most recent: Noise Gate. caught, admitted to it and tok the punishment without federal involvement.

PEDs. a bunch of washed up players with the most recent being a practice team guy from 5 years ago. all of which served their punishment without federal involvement.

Cellphones gate. that was just Jim Mora being the dumb ass he is and violating a rule that he had no idea existed and gave no competitive advantage what so ever.

then the rest of everyone's list is riddled with bullshit like tampering which that list itself admits that it's so rampant that it really shouldn't even be a rule. dude that's a pathetic attempt to make everyone look as dirty as the Pats and Belicheat have been proven to be.

edit: The Patriots score "A Touch Below Average"?! :lol: are you kidding me?! this is comedy gold! protip Corey, don't show this to anyone that you want to take you seriously. ever. :lol:

[HilbillyHomeboy]

LMAO, that site is a joke. Because a player used PEDs the team cheated? :lo5l: Take Bobby's advice, Corey.

Jeremy

[IPD]

That site looks more slanted than crap like moveon.org. There's not even basic contact info, location, etc at the bottom of the website. I've seen "9-11 was an inside job" websites that looked more plausible.

P.S.
PED scandals are player-related scandals. They have never been team-related scandals.

[CoreyB]

Oh that site is most definitely slanted. But to put things in perspective, the Falcons ADMITTED to cheating in a manor far worse than anything the Pats have been accused of or admitted too, yet nobody cares, why? Because they suck that's why. If you think deflating a ball will make your team as good as the Pats your an idiot.
Think about it,what is a bigger advantage, making an opposing offense unable to communicate or playing with a football 0.35 psi below the limit?
My guess is Brady is thankful that the league has figured out the team was wrong to use balls at the low limit and corrected it judging by his recent numbers. Just imaging what he could have done if they were over inflated like Rodgers likes.

[j2k4]

Brady went to court for redress, correct?

He did it cuz "They done me wrong!"

In light of that, this-

Bombshell ESPN Report: The Patriots Were Huge Cheaters And Roger Goodell Covered It Up (http://deadspin.com/bombshell-espn-report-the-patriots-were-huge-cheaters-1729286402)

-should have landed in court already, given it's obviously vicious and defamatory content, no?

Yet it hasn't.

Why not?

If it's wrong, lawsuits should follow, right?

I mean, usually ESPN sucks NFL dick, but this?

It's absolutely outrageous, and I look forward to the ensuing courtroom antics.

[Echo419]

let me tell you something about the crowd noise at the Georgia Dome. the team was VERY bad last year and the year before. so bad that people stopped going to the game. in fact during games like the Steelers it sounded like a Pitt home game in there because there were so many of them. I'm as certain as I can be without actually knowing that the sound pumped in there was so that people on tv didn't think it was a Pitt home game. I can't think of one instant where the away team had to take a time out because it was to loud. except maybe the Aint's. we show up for that game no matter what because F the Aint's.

at some point Corey it's stops being everyone else who is wrong. ;)

[CoreyB]

So you are of the opinion that the Falcans cheating didn't matter and therefore it doesn't make them cheaters? The team sucked so bad they had to cheat to not look pathetic to those watching on TV.

I think this topic has pretty much run its course.

On actual football talk. The guy who was given Brady's 400 TD ball by Amendolla gave it back so Brady could have it, that's pretty cool. Also the Patriots traded Hooman for Hicks, a bit surprised at this. I know we have good depth at TE but didn't think we really needed a DE.

[Echo419]

So you are of the opinion that the Falcans cheating didn't matter and therefore it doesn't make them cheaters?
I never said that. you've got to get out of the mindset of a Belicheat and not try to rationalize everything so it's not cheating.

The team sucked so bad they had to cheat to not look pathetic to those watching on TV..
pretty much this. that's what I think. maybe those that were doing it thought otherwise but based on the performance on the field that is my guess. still wrong regardless. but unlike the Foxboro Cheaters they admitted to it and took their punishment like a man.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

http://i.imgur.com/ioQYS5v.jpg

[IPD]

I'll keep coming back to this thread over and over because I'm amused how fully egyptian :corey: has gone.

[CoreyB]

Glad I am entertaining you. But I am completely lost as to what you mean.

[Echo419]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14

[CoreyB]

8440

Tied Peyton for most all time.

[IPD]

Glad I am entertaining you. But I am completely lost as to what you mean.

Urban Dictionary: denile (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=denile)

[CoreyB]

Wow, thats deep.

[IPD]

about 30 feet, actually...on average.

and your team still cheats.

[onebadmollafolla]

http://i.imgur.com/1ykhIbT.jpg

[IPD]

Annoying Steelers fan kept shrieking during the game tonight. Wasn't really watching it anyways, since I was playing BW's buzztime--but still, annoying. So when the Ravens kicked the last field goal, I started screaming "WOO WOO WOO" (ric flair style) at the top of my lungs in that asshat's direction. :D

[onebadmollafolla]

Not their 3 year old fan base with brand new gear across the board.



http://i.imgur.com/LhL7f2x.jpg

[donniekak]

Annoying Steelers fan kept shrieking during the game tonight. Wasn't really watching it anyways, since I was playing BW's buzztime--but still, annoying. So when the Ravens kicked the last field goal, I started screaming "WOO WOO WOO" (ric flair style) at the top of my lungs in that asshat's direction. :D

Go stillers.

[Echo419]

fans sure will make you hate a team. :lol:

[IPD]

fans sure will make you hate a team. :lol:

That explains the patriots, raiders, steelers, 9ers, etc.

[Echo419]

That explains the patriots, raiders, steelers, 9ers, etc.

and pretty much every NY and Boston team.

[93STLTH]

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/kjxDMMSypLvZjl1wXBWi-51lcL8=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4129518/ref.0.jpg

http://alotosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/fail-mary.jpg

Looks like Seattle has been "chosen" much like the Patriots. Only, the Patriots think being one of the NFL's chosen means it can do whatever it wants to, while Seattle waits for the refs to hand them a win.

[Echo419]

why not fall on the ball and take over?

[CoreyB]

It is difficult being a Patriots fan...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=98&v=pOMWPfy5bC4

[Echo419]

hands down worst accent in the world. perhaps he should try raising some money for Aaron Hernandez's legal defense fund.

[j2k4]

It is difficult being a Patriots fan...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=98&v=pOMWPfy5bC4

It strikes me the Patriots', um, tradition is a bit short-lived, inspiring these attempts to claim True Glory - the kind the Packers enjoy without such shens. :D

[CoreyB]

Gotta have fun with it while I can. They have only been great for ~15 years and could be on the decline within ~5 years.

[onebadmollafolla]

Gotta have fun with it while I can. They have only been great for ~15 years and could be on the decline within ~5 years.

15 years? That's adorable.

http://i.imgur.com/KvtuBEt.jpg

[CoreyB]

You have a better number? From 2001 to present they have been to 6 Super Bowls and won 4. Show me any other team remotely close. And If you think taking air out of a football would make any team great you lack a fundamental understanding of the game.

From spygate (2007) to now... Went to 3 SBs won one. Both loses were very close with freak plays.

from deflate gate to now.... Won a SB, have yet to lose and are putting up league leading numbers.

keep hating.

[onebadmollafolla]

You have a better number?

To quote Marshawn Lynch: "Yeah."

http://i.imgur.com/ORA1vxR.png


Also, save your cheating rhetoric for someone who gives a shit, cheater.

[IPD]

Gotta have fun with it while I can. They have only been great for ~15 years and could be on the decline within ~5 years.

Can't fucking come soon enough. I've got $5 on the "let's swap the entire team/coach/manager/owner" fund, moving NE to TB & vice versa.

[Echo419]

You have a better number? From 2001 to present they have been to 6 Super Bowls and won 4. Show me any other team remotely close. And If you think taking air out of a football would make any team great you lack a fundamental understanding of the game.

From spygate (2007) to now... Went to 3 SBs won one. Both loses were very close with freak plays.

from deflate gate to now.... Won a SB, have yet to lose and are putting up league leading numbers.

keep hating.
playing in that division and winning it is no accomplishment. that whole thing has been a dumpster fire since the 90's. "Oh man we beat da Jets again!" wow.....

[CoreyB]

That Green Bay record is sad, pretty much nothing out of them in my lifetime. And the division doesn't mean shit once the playoffs start.

[Echo419]

That Green Bay record is sad, pretty much nothing out of them in my lifetime. And the division doesn't mean shit once the playoffs start.

edit: not awake yet. read that as.... hell I don't know how I read that :lol:

but it does matter if you have a buy week and are playing at home. things decided by how you finish the season and weather or not you go on the road. those are big deals.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Sure, once the playoffs start. But, you have a literal red carpet laid out in front of you TO the playoffs in that division. That's changing though with the Bills and Jets on the rise.

Jeremy

[CoreyB]

Well its a conspiracy really. Everything is made easy for the Patriots. That is why they win and win A LOT. Teams in their division haven't been allowed to be very good so that the Patriots have an easy ride to the playoffs. Its all because everyone loves NE, they love the accent, they want to see NE fans and teams on TV more. Its just not fair.

[Echo419]

Well the crybaby does get a lot of calls most guys don't get. Hell they made touching the QB practically illegal after her messed up his knee. I recall a game with the Falcons when he came back. The defensive end was literally laying on the ground with a lineman on his back. He reached up a just touched Brady's leg. Instant 15 years penalty.

[donniekak]

I hate the patriots. They've been the premier franchise for the past decade and a half.

As much as I hate the patriots, I was more than happy in the way Seattle lost the super bowl. The tears of Richard Sherman are like a refreshing rain for my soul.

[j2k4]

I hate the patriots. They've been the premier franchise for the past decade and a half.

As much as I hate the patriots, I was more than happy in the way Seattle lost the super bowl. The tears of Richard Sherman are like a refreshing rain for my soul.

You're very heavily-invested in professional football, donnie. :wink:

[CoreyB]

Well the crybaby does get a lot of calls most guys don't get. Hell they made touching the QB practically illegal after her messed up his knee. I recall a game with the Falcons when he came back. The defensive end was literally laying on the ground with a lineman on his back. He reached up a just touched Brady's leg. Instant 15 years penalty.
The refs were just trying to make the game fair, they gave the Patriots the 15 yards to compensate for the cheater Falcons pumping in crowd noise.

[Echo419]

I hate the patriots. They've been the premier franchise for the past decade and a half.

As much as I hate the patriots, I was more than happy in the way Seattle lost the super bowl. The tears of Richard Sherman are like a refreshing rain for my soul.

indeed and while I would have preferred the Seachickens winning over the Cheaters I was able to wreck shit in out SB squares. 3 of 4 iirc :D

[j2k4]

indeed and while I would have preferred the Seachickens winning over the Cheaters I was able to wreck shit in out SB squares. 3 of 4 iirc :D

Speaking of, Bobby, there is a conspiracy afoot to forestall a repeat performance.

I think Corey is behind it.

[onebadmollafolla]

That Green Bay record is sad, pretty much nothing out of them in my lifetime. And the division doesn't mean shit once the playoffs start.

:lol:

It's a legacy. Not a flash before your eyes. Enjoy your fad. Hope it's us in the Superbowl so we can whoop that ass again. ��

[IPD]

The total lack of apologetic attitude in NE is what probably ruffles the most feathers.

Here's :corey: in a nutshell (3:39):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvUMV1N7eGM&t=219

[stealthee]

Well the crybaby does get a lot of calls most guys don't get. Hell they made touching the QB practically illegal after her messed up his knee. I recall a game with the Falcons when he came back. The defensive end was literally laying on the ground with a lineman on his back. He reached up a just touched Brady's leg. Instant 15 years penalty.

OMG this. When Ben went down 2 weeks ago he was hit in the EXACT way that was made illegal because of Brady's injury. The play was not dirty, but it was illegal by the book. Ben has never gotten any of the calls like Brady gets. Hell, he got his nose broken once, and wouldn't you know it, no flag. Ben almost has his helmet ripped off, no flag. A defensive lineman pulls up and throws his hands up to avoid hitting Brady because he released the ball, and his fingertip grazes side of Brady's helmet, personal foul hit to the QB's helmet.

[CoreyB]

Told you, its a conspiracy man. No way could a human be as good of a QB as Brady without the help of the refs, the league the president and likely aliens too.

[CoreyB]

The total lack of apologetic attitude in NE is what probably ruffles the most feathers.

Here's :corey: in a nutshell (3:39):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvUMV1N7eGM&t=219

You want NE fans to apologize?
Ok, I am deeply sorry the Patriots have crushed the hopes and dreams of so many other teams out there.

Edit: I cant believe you watched that entire video. Yes, I am a overweight nerdy kid...

[IPD]

You want NE fans to apologize?
Ok, I am deeply sorry the Patriots have crushed the hopes and dreams of so many other teams out there.

Edit: I cant believe you watched that entire video. Yes, I am a overweight nerdy kid...

I'm sorry that your pathetic shithole of area of the country:

-doesn't speak, comprehend or use proper English
-has never accomplished anything of historical relevance--ever--in recorded history, and...
-this results in deeply egotistical troglodytes being consumed with self-delusional grandeur about their beloved sports teams

Furthermore, I'm truly sorry that the other ~29/30ths of the USA is somehow the consumed with delusion and "player hate"--because NE is so righteous and completely bereft of cheaters. I'm sure that NE is the upstanding paragon of everything good about humanity, and in no way shape or form the NFL equivalent of what Sepp Blatter is to FIFA or what Bernie Ecclestone is to F1.

...

damn. If I had any more sarcasm here, you could spread it on your pancakes.

[CoreyB]

Are we still talking about football? You are so full of hate its awesome.

[j2k4]

Aliens, too? :huh:

[IPD]

NE and Kommiefornia could both fall into the ocean, and the USA would be 1000% better.

[CoreyB]

Eh, NH isn't so bad. Just out of curiosity, what areas of the country are awesome by your standards?

[onebadmollafolla]

Eh, NH isn't so bad. Just out of curiosity, what areas of the country are awesome by your standards?

Anywhere that isn't filled with commies or chock-full of adults that talk like they have a speech impediment.

[IPD]

Maricopa-fucking-county is awesome, for one.

[CoreyB]

Good luck finding that, well, anywhere in the world.

[donniekak]

Maricopa-fucking-county is awesome, for one.

I live there, it's pretty fu**ed up.

Everybody here bitches about immigration, but have illegals doing all their yard work for $80 a month. Come here in July when it's 120* and tell me how awesome it is.

[IPD]

And yet, you're a liberal beyond belief. It boggles the mind.

[donniekak]

And yet, you're a liberal beyond belief. It boggles the mind.
What specifically makes you think that? Is it because I think Obama is a shitty president, but not an evil Muslim plant from hell who will only be happy after he rapes every white woman in America while their gunless husbands are forced to watch, all while living under sharia law?

People like you are the reason the Republican Party is fractured. You're the reason we'll have yet another democrat president.

Shouldn't you be busy hiding from terrorists or something?



Go stillers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[onebadmollafolla]

Well, had the Seahawks not been blessed with another ref gifted game, they'd now be 1-4. :lmao:

[stealthee]

Well, the refs did miss one today too. PacMan took his helmet off arguing with a ref and was not flagged for it. While it may not have changed the outcome of the game, it could have.

[donniekak]

Got stuck watching the Green Bay game. Rogers was off and they still pulled through.

[IPD]

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/88489/image561ad70318.jpg

[Echo419]

What specifically makes you think that? Is it because I think Obama is a shitty president, but not an evil Muslim plant from hell who will only be happy after he rapes every white woman in America while their gunless husbands are forced to watch, all while living under sharia law?

People like you are the reason the Republican Party is fractured. You're the reason we'll have yet another democrat president.

Shouldn't you be busy hiding from terrorists or something?



Go stillers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
calls others Republicans. literally opposes them at every issue. claims not to be a liberal. :lmao:

Got stuck watching the Green Bay game. Rogers was off and they still pulled through.

gotta get that NFL network yo! I have it and it is AWESOME!

[donniekak]

calls others Republicans. literally opposes them at every issue. claims not to be a liberal. :lmao:


gotta get that NFL network yo! I have it and it is AWESOME!

I also call democrats democrats, socialists socialists, etc. I know I'm doing something right when hard lefties call me to right, and hard right people call me a dem. It's a symptom of ideology to assume someone with any different view to be a member of an opposing ideology. Truth is, I'm not an ideologue.

I have nfl network. What I don't have is dish, so I can't get all the games. If something I really want to see isn't on in my market, I'll find a way to stream online. Go stillers!

[IPD]

You're left of Libertarian--that makes you liberal in my book.


I to have terrorists tirelessly searching for me, my friends, and family. A simple tin foil hat can block a majority of their signals.

As to this, well this just SMACKS of leftist sarcasm and indifference. Furthermore, liberals are classically the ones who believe singing kum-by-yah around a campfire is and entirely possible and preferential alternative to actually sending people into combat to deal with belligerents who simply cannot be reasoned with.

So yeah, you're about as "right" as NE is collectively.

Now can we please get this thread back on track...back to bashing on the cheaters?

[Echo419]

Pats wouldn't score 10pts if they couldn't run so many pick plays. those midget white WR's aren't getting away from anyone otherwise

[CoreyB]

LMAO

If...
If...
If....

If the Patriots were not SO GOOD, they wouldnt WIN SO MUCH!!!

For the record, even 10 points would have been a win yesterday.

[Echo419]

LMAO

If...
If...
If....

If the Patriots were not SO GOOD, they wouldnt WIN SO MUCH!!!

For the record, even 10 points would have been a win yesterday.
but I said "wouldn't" 0 and 2 are also not 10. ;)
http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/reading_rainbow_square.jpg

[CoreyB]

After Spygate, Deflategate led to additional questions about New England’s credibility. Adams said he doesn’t believe the Patriots cheat but that they do what they can without breaking rules.
“I’ll tell you straight up, that’s a great organization,” Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9620/dqwell-jackson) told ESPN.com. “They win, and when you win, people try to nick and pick and pry to find the weakest one on the chain. Those guys have done a great job of winning. When you win, all the negativity comes out. It’s hard to walk into every game with a bull’s-eye on your chest and still be able to dominate games. I did not expect the story to go as far as it did. Crazy that it took off the way it did with some interceptions by me and Mike. It’ll be a story to tell whenever I have kids and grandkids.”

[IPD]

I never suspected the 90's bulls of cheating. Or even the 00's lakers. Not the 90's cowboys, the 80's skins, the 70's steelers, or even the fucking yankess.

Patriots are cheaters in the most epic sense of the word.

[CoreyB]

Cant wait for Sunday night!!! I really hope Luck is healthy and plays.

[Echo419]

Welp D'qwell Jackson said so. Shut it down folks. :lmao:

[Echo419]

I never suspected the 90's bulls of cheating. Or even the 00's lakers. Not the 90's cowboys, the 80's skins, the 70's steelers, or even the fucking yankess.

Patriots are cheaters in the most epic sense of the word.

How about the 90's through 2000's. Same deal. But people are just after poor old Tom and Bill. :lol:

[onebadmollafolla]

I never suspected the 90's bulls of cheating. Or even the 00's lakers. Not the 90's cowboys, the 80's skins, the 70's steelers, or even the fucking yankess.

Patriots are cheaters in the most epic sense of the word.

And maybe even racist! I'll post just the link below. And yes, it's legit. They tweeted an apology shortly afterwards.

http://i.imgur.com/i8VAdxdl.jpg

#1millionpatriots

[onebadmollafolla]

Their apology for anyone who cares.

http://i.imgur.com/4tnPD5h.jpg

[CoreyB]

LMAO I remember that. Yes all New Englanders are racists, even that black ones.

[CoreyB]

I never suspected the 90's bulls of cheating. Or even the 00's lakers. Not the 90's cowboys, the 80's skins, the 70's steelers, or even the fucking yankess.

Patriots are cheaters in the most epic sense of the word.

You probably were too young to notice or care or maybe you hadn't yet become so liberalized driving that deep seething hate for success you have. You can do your own research but you don't care.

Cowboys used illegal steroids made for horses in the 90s.

Redskins are apparently clean, though I don't think they had a big enough run to raise eyebrows.

Steelers are well known for being the team that largely popularized steroids in the NFL.....Starting.... You guessed it, in the 70s.

Yankees are well known for out spending everyone, so it's no secret to why they have success. Cheating in baseball is generally not considered a bad thing, it's pretty well known to occur.

And basketball.... Um yeah.