View Full Version : AWD Does the 6 speed use this bracket?
Keyan
01-08-2015, 07:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uZ0ZX7i.jpg?2
5 speed had it but the jdm 6 speed didnt. But the 6speed had been handled by someone and disassembled and it could be missing. the shifter cables seem really low without it.
do the 6 speeds use this square 4 hole bracket?
Bloodlust182
01-08-2015, 08:20 PM
IIRC yes it needs it.
Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-08-2015, 08:48 PM
sure does, I don't know if the part # is different or not you better check, it holds the cables in alignment.
Keyan
01-08-2015, 08:57 PM
thanks!
green-lantern
01-09-2015, 01:44 PM
Are you talking about the whole thing or just the bottom part? Is that one from your 5 speed? I don't remember mine having the bottom part of that bracket.
green-lantern
01-09-2015, 01:50 PM
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gagAAOSwofxUiExB/$_57.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/tjUAAOSwAL9UiExJ/$_57.JPG
No small bracket, just the upper part.
BucknVr4
01-09-2015, 04:31 PM
Thanks Paul. I was beginning to question myself as I don't remember that bracket either.
Keyan
01-10-2015, 07:56 AM
Interesting. I installed the bracket any way before seeing these comments. It definitely didn't fit 100% because when going in to first or second the shift shaft is so low that it kind of angles the plane of the bushing in the shifter cable.
But, it works and my car hasn't blown up yet. And to take it back out I'd have to undo all my piping and my t bolts are all rusted to hell.
Eh, I'll take it back out when I take it back out. Its operating fine both with and without it.
Thanks!
green-lantern
01-10-2015, 01:36 PM
Maybe the top part is different from the 5 to 6 speed. IDK
If it works and shifts fine I don't guess I'd sweat it much.
Fakepower
01-11-2015, 12:08 PM
Well holy sh*t. I did a 6 speed conversion to my 1991, and my first and second shift like crap and I noticed the same thing when shifting into 1st, the cables seem high and are at a difficult angle. Of course I put my 5 speed bracket back on which does include the lower bracket. I'll take some pictures to show what Im talking about.
green-lantern
01-11-2015, 04:28 PM
I tried to measure the height of my bracket and see if it was taller than the upper part of the 5 speed but I'm having trouble getting in there without taking everything apart.
Primus101
01-11-2015, 06:29 PM
Hey I just stumbled past my GNCR, for my future conversion & it is low mile, untampered with & it's just the single bracket-
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Fakepower
01-11-2015, 11:34 PM
Ok guys well this corrected my difficulty with shifting. Made a huge difference. Shifting is silky smooth now. Here are some pictures to show the difference, since they weren't taken at exactly the same angle its difficult to appreciate how much less angle there is, the cables attached to the transmissions easier and have really fixed the problem. I also adjusted the shift cables per the factory manual after I had removed the bracket.
This is with the 5speed bracket:
http://www.3sgto.org/attachments/transmission-suspension-drivetrain/7625d1421037234-does-6-speed-use-bracket-pic1.jpg
This is with the 5 speed bracket removed:
http://www.3sgto.org/attachments/transmission-suspension-drivetrain/7626d1421037243-does-6-speed-use-bracket-pic2.jpg
green-lantern
01-12-2015, 05:15 AM
Cool, glad it helped
Primus101
01-12-2015, 05:03 PM
Ok guys well this corrected my difficulty with shifting. Made a huge difference. Shifting is silky smooth now. Here are some pictures to show the difference, since they weren't taken at exactly the same angle its difficult to appreciate how much less angle there is, the cables attached to the transmissions easier and have really fixed the problem. I also adjusted the shift cables per the factory manual after I had removed the bracket.
This is with the 5speed bracket:
http://www.3sgto.org/attachments/transmission-suspension-drivetrain/7625d1421037234-does-6-speed-use-bracket-pic1.jpg
This is with the 5 speed bracket removed:
http://www.3sgto.org/attachments/transmission-suspension-drivetrain/7626d1421037243-does-6-speed-use-bracket-pic2.jpg
so did you retain the 5 gear cables, or did you change over to the 6 gear ones?
Fakepower
01-13-2015, 10:34 PM
I had a set of 6speed cables in all of those pictures. I wish I wouldn't have switched over, the 6 speed cables only have one adjustable cable while the 5 speed both cables are adjustable.
green-lantern
01-14-2015, 07:00 AM
I think you would have had more shifting problems with the 5 speed cables. When I was swapping over I remember reading that people did have issues with them. Maybe it could have been adjusted out but you might as well have the part it's supposed to have.
Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-14-2015, 10:14 AM
I had a set of 6speed cables in all of those pictures. I wish I wouldn't have switched over, the 6 speed cables only have one adjustable cable while the 5 speed both cables are adjustable.
you can't use 6 speed cables on the five speed, they are like 2 inches short of getting into the brackets.
Primus101
01-14-2015, 02:30 PM
you can't use 6 speed cables on the five speed, they are like 2 inches short of getting into the brackets.
yeah I think we're talking about the opposite scenario here-
There doesn't seem to be a solid answer to the 5 gear cables working correct on the 6 gear...I'd love to know
Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-14-2015, 02:31 PM
yeah I think we're talking about the opposite scenario here-
There doesn't seem to be a solid answer to the 5 gear cables working correct on the 6 gear...I'd love to know
yeah I think the 5 cables should work, but I try to err on doing the right thing when it comes to the trans and went to 6 speed cables (long story)
green-lantern
01-14-2015, 02:54 PM
I might have a pic of my 5 speed cables sitting next to my 6 speed ones.
Bloodlust182
01-14-2015, 03:44 PM
I had a set of 6speed cables in all of those pictures. I wish I wouldn't have switched over, the 6 speed cables only have one adjustable cable while the 5 speed both cables are adjustable.
I must have the wrong cables or in 91 there was only 1 adjustable cable. Perhaps this is why my trans feels weird to shift.
Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-14-2015, 03:48 PM
I must have the wrong cables or in 91 there was only 1 adjustable cable. Perhaps this is why my trans feels weird to shift.
There is a pic or white band on them, which tells whether they are 6 or 5 speed cables.
Emily had a great thread on it:
http://www.3sgto.org/3000gt-stealth-gto-related-topics/5631-5spd-vs-6spd-shifter-cables.html
Bloodlust182
01-15-2015, 01:39 AM
There is a pic or white band on them, which tells whether they are 6 or 5 speed cables.
Emily had a great thread on it:
http://www.3sgto.org/3000gt-stealth-gto-related-topics/5631-5spd-vs-6spd-shifter-cables.html
Well, I'll be damned. Checked my cables, the elevator is red, and the selector cable is white! The PO of the donor for my AWD swap must have replaced one of the cables with a 6 speed one. I just swapped out my shifter cables when I did the swap to be safe.... Damn. Gonna hit up Chris after work today.
Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-15-2015, 09:37 AM
I have a set of 5 speeds for sale for $45 shipped
Bloodlust182
01-15-2015, 02:38 PM
its all good, Im picking some up from Chris this weekend.
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