Anyone intersted in CF doors

[J. Fast]

Forum users. A new thread will be started should there be further interest. The first run of doors has been spoken for and is being quality fitted by racing professionals and a qualified site vendor.

The original run of 5 doors required a collecticve investment of over $10,000. Fitment results will be added as they're completed by the individual investors.

Jeremy

[onebadmollafolla]

That is extremely cheap!!! I'm not in need of them but if they are quality CF doors at that price...

0_o

[J. Fast]

I will be driving out for the test fitment, this is way out, prolly like Feb. I'm pretty sure they'll be quality, they're a Chaser Product.

[i3igpete]

very interested if these actually get made.

edit: looks like the cat's outta the bag on 3si, eh jeremy? ;)

[TT Eric]

edit: looks like the cat's outta the bag on 3si, eh jeremy? ;)

Can't believe they took so long to realise that, it was pretty obvious.

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I would like to have CF door to save the weight, but I preffer the security of the stock door.

Eric

[J. Fast]

LOL, just a bunch of H.S. drama! Didn't know my identity was a secret to 3s Tech's :p. The molds and plugs are done. Expecting them to come in the first quarter of 2011.

You think you might be interested Pete? You would make #6 and money talks.

[Austin@STM]

Post up a definite weight, and some fitment pics.

As long as they save weight over a stock door with no door bars or power window track/motor im in for a pair. I really want my car to weigh 24xx pounds.

[J. Fast]

Ofcourse, I would have to make a safety suggestion to folks about side impact, and would highly recc a cage.

[J. Fast]

Post up a definite weight, and some fitment pics.

As long as they save weight over a stock door with no door bars or power window track/motor im in for a pair. I really want my car to weigh 24xx pounds.

Nothin yet Austin, I will definitely post up the info when they land and I have them test fitted. Good guess... prolly within a pound or two of 10lbs each.

[skater334]

10lbs ea? That's freakin nuts! We'd love a set...but now's not the time since the baby is on the way.

[Austin@STM]

10lbs each? or 10lbs lighter each?

Also i remember this from other CF door discussions. Will they accept all style door caps, or will they be styled for separate cars?

[i3igpete]

my main wonder is if the door would be able to support my weight (probably not) since i do a jump and slide to get in/out of my car. but yeah i've never seen the fitment so at least a prototype picture would be nice.

[SilverJester]

Extremely interested! As long as they support the stock pieces (mirrors, locks, door insert, door caps, etc.).

[Nationalmilkman]

$500!!! That's a killer price! Can we get a CF door cap too? Kinda surprised no one has made them yet.

[Jason]

Jeremy, I'm down for a set but I am not putting up any money till they arrive. I paid in full for carbon fenders and a hood through Russ at Chaser and it's been over a year now and still no hood. I asked them today to refund my money and they don't want to, they want me to keep waiting, yet they have no idea when the hood will be in! So from now on, I'm only paying for what they have in stock.


$500!!! That's a killer price! Can we get a CF door cap too? Kinda surprised no one has made them yet.
They do sell a carbon fiber door caps, they are Pit Road M knockoff if I'm not mistaken.

[J. Fast]

The doors should be roughly 10 pounds each, Austin.

They will accept stock door caps and all stock hardware. You will have to drill all your mounting holes for mirrors, inside door panels, and etc tho. The door hinge will be tapped.

May make me sound like a fool but I've never checked, is there a significant shape difference between stealth doors and 3000gt? I thought the only difference was the cap design?

Not certain as to the structural integrity of the doors Pete. CF is really strong though. You sure you don't want to rig up a $10 door exit lever?

I'll get some of those questions answered and post back up.

[J. Fast]

Whoa, what up J! Sorry for the off-topic. Is that avaitor the new beast?

[skater334]

$500!!! That's a killer price! Can we get a CF door cap too? Kinda surprised no one has made them yet.

Actually....
http://www.autotrimdesign.net/detail_ATD-MITS3000GTDCL2__10363.html

[terrets]

Not sure Ive got the funds for them. Would be pretty sweet though.

[Hans@GZP]

I have a hard time believing the $500 each price judging by their 99 sail panel pricing LOL

[1992redvr-4]

I have a hard time believing the $500 each price judging by their 99 sail panel pricing LOL

I have to agree with you there. A carbon fiber door would be great for $500 each but with the 99 sails being 650 or so...... makes me wonder.

Arent the pit road M doors like $3000 a pair?

[Emilie@GZP]

Yes, PitRoad M doors are $1500/each.

[Emilie@GZP]

I don't see these being produced and sold by them, for anything less than $1000/door.

[TT Eric]

Out of subject, but who is selling PitRoad M products ? I'm looking for their hood!

Eric

[green-lantern]

I would be interested if they could really do this at 500 a door and quality/fitment ect was good.

[Emilie@GZP]

Out of subject, but who is selling PitRoad M products ? I'm looking for their hood!

Eric

Honestly have no idea. That Ralliart3000 guy or whatever on 3si seems to get all that weird stuff. dunno if he's on this site though.

[Jason]

Whoa, what up J! Sorry for the off-topic. Is that avaitor the new beast?
No that's my old 93 I did a while back. Sold it.

Keep me updated on the doors, I'll put down a deposit if needed but I won't pay in full till the doors are in stock. I hope they come through on schedule and on budget.

[green-lantern]

Honestly have no idea. That Ralliart3000 guy or whatever on 3si seems to get all that weird stuff. dunno if he's on this site though.

I'm pretty sure he is MIA right now. Wayne told me he couldn't get a hold of him last time I asked.

[TT Eric]

I'm pretty sure he is MIA right now. Wayne told me he couldn't get a hold of him last time I asked.

Yeah I sent a PM a week or two ago and didn't answered.

Eric

[Erron Spalsbury]

Ya, keeping fingers crossed on this one.

Brief history..
A year ago when Russ still worked there he had me go out and find a set of doors that I could ship to him to have the CF molds made. (in China or somewhere on the other side of the planet) So I found a set of doors after a couple months of looking. Jer, these were the green doors that Hal brought up to me during the Chumpcar project last year at this time. I went to send them to him and called asking where to ship them to. He said, "Oh, I had a set dropped off by a local guy". Awesome, saves me on the freight and I threw them away. Every month since then (a year ago) I call over there and talk with now Anthony (a hella cool guy who my number on a sticky at his desk) just to get an update on when the doors will be done and in the US. The last report I got from about a week ago was they are hoping they are coming on the next container within the next month or so. Here's to keeping the fingers crossed!!

If they come in soon i'm making set from paper mache. LOL ~joke~

[green-lantern]

Cool!

[HilbillyHomeboy]

I'd like to hear this from CFH, the pricing just doesn't seem realistic.

Jeremy

[SilverJester]

Ya, keeping fingers crossed on this one.

Brief history..
A year ago when Russ still worked there he had me go out and find a set of doors that I could ship to him to have the CF molds made. (in China or somewhere on the other side of the planet) So I found a set of doors after a couple months of looking. Jer, these were the green doors that Hal brought up to me during the Chumpcar project last year at this time. I went to send them to him and called asking where to ship them to. He said, "Oh, I had a set dropped off by a local guy". Awesome, saves me on the freight and I threw them away. Every month since then (a year ago) I call over there and talk with now Anthony (a hella cool guy who my number on a sticky at his desk) just to get an update on when the doors will be done and in the US. The last report I got from about a week ago was they are hoping they are coming on the next container within the next month or so. Here's to keeping the fingers crossed!!

If they come in soon i'm making set from paper mache. LOL ~joke~

Did they say anything to you about pricing?

[blindmist]

I will have to think about this. I think I still want my safety on the sides. But this is very enticing.

[Erron Spalsbury]

ya, projected in the thousand dollar range but I was also warned that they really wouldn't know until the was actually made.

[J. Fast]

I'd like to hear this from CFH, the pricing just doesn't seem realistic.

Jeremy

Here you go guys.




From: fasttmotorsports@live.com
To: info@carbonfiberhoods.com
Subject: RE: 3000GT Doors
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:06:47 -0600

Sounds good to me!

Jeremy

> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:11:16 -0700
> From: info@carbonfiberhoods.com
> To: fasttmotorsports@live.com
> Subject: 3000GT Doors
>
> How about this, let's test fit the doors first and make sure the
> product is good to go. I can sell 1 set of doors for $1199.00 , I
> would need someone to purchase the set and drive down to Chaser's
> facility for test fitting. The installation would be free, they just
> have to pay for the doors.
>
> Then once we know what fitment is good, we can start the group buy
> pricing, I can sell them for $999 a set if there are 20 buyers, but I
> just want to make sure everything is satisfactory before I take such a
> large order.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> - CFH -
> Web: www.carbonfiberhoods.com
> Email / Gtalk: info@carbonfiberhoods.com
> Tel: 1-478-CARBON-1
> Tel: 1-478-227-2661


This one is from Michelle at Chaser for the whole body kit.




> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:24:59 -0500
> From: michelle@aerokits.net
> To: fasttmotorsports@live.com
> Subject: Carbon Fiber 3000GT part
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> I checked our new inventory and unfortunately I don't have the Pit
> Fighter kit in Carbon Fiber, all I have is a rear bumper. The hatch and
> doors are in the works now. We have the plug and are awaiting enough
> pre-orders to go ahead with the run. I don't know if you want to
> pre-order any of these parts, but if you did that would allow us to run
> them for you and have them here by the first quarter of 2011.

> Michelle Lichtig
>
> Chaser Aerodynamics, LLC
> 2113 Columbia Park Dr
> Suite 1A
> Edgewood, MD 21040
> tel.443-303-1622
> fax.410-612-9082
> Michelle@aerokits.net
> www.AEROKITS.net
> www.LAMBODOORS.com
> Hours: MON-FRI 9am-5pm est






Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:39:33 -0500
From: michelle@aerokits.net
To: fasttmotorsports@live.com
Subject: Re: Carbon Fiber 3000GT part

Ok Jeremy, here it is.
$3800 shipped in continental US for the CFdoors, Pit Fighter front and rear bumpers, side skirts, doors and hatch.

I will need a 25% deposit to put your parts in the next run. We accept all major credit cards and paypal. Give me a call to take care of your deposit.

Thanks,

Michelle



There it is guys... Roughly $3450 for the entire kit, $3800 with shipping, or $1000 for the doors w/o shipping with a group buy.

[ChargerX3]

I'd like to hear this from CFH, the pricing just doesn't seem realistic.

Jeremy

I like your thinking.

[J. Fast]

Sorry bout that guys...

[Erron Spalsbury]

Good stuff Jer. I'd be willing to pay shipping both ways if they want to sent them here for testing. We can document it via web chat and video phone if needed as well.

[J. Fast]

Pete, and everyone, I'm sorry I can't give you a composite of the doors or a sample. This is a one time custom parts deal. The good part is you dont have to commit all your money upfront, tho. Looks like I'm going to need a little help with a few things so I'm going to ask Jason and Erron if they're willing to help me setup everything.

For the record guys, I do believe the retail price for the doors is going to be set at $1700-$2000 after our run.


Good stuff Jer. I'd be willing to pay shipping both ways if they want to sent them here for testing. We can document it via web chat and video phone if needed as well.

I'm cool with that Err, video doc is a great idea!

I wouldn't mind driving tho. I love driving my car, there's something about hearing it purr. I couldn't have listened to the stereo for more than 2 hours on my trip thru MD this summer.

Anyway, if you want to video document everything we can do it with the set I pre-ordered and I'll split the shipping with you Err. I'm prolly going to get a 2nd set while in GB since they're a lttle cheaper at that price.

Are all interested parties willing to put up 25%? Between $250 and $300. Your money will be tied up for awhile, could be as late as April. The deposit is a hold Chaser will require to place a manufacturers production order. The balance would be due upon arrival and upon Erron and I doing a fitment documentry.

I'm going to start a list of interested parties. Please only put your name on it if you're interested, and are willing to put forward deposit money (prolly around $250-$300) in no more than 30 days from today.

1) J. Fast

[i3igpete]

Do they have any pictures of doors they've done for other platforms?

So far i've only been able to find B-magic (~$1000/set), seibon (~$1600), and vis (~$1900) doors. As far as I can tell Chaser has only been doing interior door panels.

[Hans@GZP]

Chaser makes CF doors for 98+ F bodies LOL. Check out the carbon fiber camaro :p

[i3igpete]

Chaser makes CF doors for 98+ F bodies LOL. Check out the carbon fiber camaro :p

ah i see it now. $890/pair for the f-body guys.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6344025#post6344025

but if the fiberglass ones are only $550/pair, that is DEFINITELY the way to go. :eek:

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Isn't "Chaser" the company that Brian Lafuente owns a portion of?

Jeremy

[i3igpete]

if it is.... i'm out. brian will have to front the cost and ship the doors to me before i pay a dime.

[Hans@GZP]

They are in MD and he's in CA. If he's part of the company, it would be pretty hard to manage from that far away.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Location is not important when you're a capital investor of a company/corporation.

There was discussion of some Honda type bodykit company on 3Si years back that Brian had some interest in. I can't remember for sure who it was, but Chaser struck a chord. I'm searching now.

I'm not trying to derail anything, this is just something that popped into my head. Just thinking out loud and watching out.

Jeremy

[i3igpete]

wait so CFH is chaser?

[HilbillyHomeboy]

It's not Chaser that Brian was/is in on.

All the reviews I've found on Chaser have been positive. :)

Jeremy

[SilverJester]

1) J. Fast
2) SilverJester

[familyMAN]

Do we have an estimated weight savings with a fair comparison...stripped stock door to stripped CF door?

[Alan92RTTT]

thread moved to guaging interest forum.

Be sure to check out the group buy rules sticky in this forum.

[J. Fast]

thread moved to guaging interest forum.

Be sure to check out the group buy rules sticky in this forum.

I will make sure to get all my info squared by tomorrow eve when I get some time Alan.

Jeremy

[J. Fast]

Do we have an estimated weight savings with a fair comparison...stripped stock door to stripped CF door?

Wasn't there a John Monin sheet circulating around with weight #'s for stock doors and glass? Can't rmember where I read that.

[J. Fast]

It's not Chaser that Brian was/is in on.

All the reviews I've found on Chaser have been positive. :)

Jeremy

Both Erron and I have their CF parts and they're sweet!

[i3igpete]

Wasn't there a John Monin sheet circulating around with weight #'s for stock doors and glass? Can't rmember where I read that.

<- that was this guy



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they are about $3000/pair currently. or $2300/pair for fiberglass from PRM

one stock door : 19kg
one carbon door : 5.5kg
one stock glass : 6kg
one stock mirror : 2kg
one interior panel: 1kg
power window : 5kg

carbon doors = -30lb lb/side
glass and power motor removal = -24 lb/side

going to carbon doors and window nets will save you a little under ~108 lbs.

aluminum doors will be almost impossible to make, unless you have an industrial sheet metal stamp.

[Hans@GZP]

wait so CFH is chaser?

CFH sells Chaser parts. They don't actually manufacture their own parts.

[Erron Spalsbury]

1) J. Fast
2) SilverJester
3)Erron S. (Doors only)

I've had good luck with Chaser as well. They are sometimes a little slow on products that aren't in stock but that is to be expected considering it's literally "the slow boat from china" or where ever they come from. The products I've received and also other DSM buddies have been top notch. I'd say -good- fitment and -great- layups. Not perfect, but at their price points, better than expected.

[J. Fast]

Here's some pics from a number of other platforms they've designed.

http://www.aerokits.net/cart/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=carbon%20doors&inc_subcat=0&sort=20a&page=1

Is anyone else interested?

[Austin@STM]

I am deff interested in doors as long as they are light and they fit. At this point, 1000 is cheap weight loss for me, as im running out of things to pull out or swap.

[SilverJester]

What happens if we don't get all 20 people...will this still be possible?

[J. Fast]

As of right now we have 8 people, I might be able to work out a deal with chaser and will get back to you on this one. It may not be 1000 but im sure I can get them to commit for under what I paid for the beta test set which is $1200.

[green-lantern]

Wasn't there a John Monin sheet circulating around with weight #'s for stock doors and glass? Can't rmember where I read that.

http://www.wrenchmonkey.com/Webpages/Weights.xls

http://www.3si.org/forum/f11/ultimate-3s-parts-weight-database-207399/


BTW I don't think there will be a big problem getting 20 people when the demo doors are in for people to see.

[-dLs-]

If you would post up on NorCal3s.com and SoCal3s.com i'll vouch for as a seller i know there are people who WANT this badly at that price they'd jump.

-dLs-

[SilverJester]

As of right now we have 8 people, I might be able to work out a deal with chaser and will get back to you on this one. It may not be 1000 but im sure I can get them to commit for under what I paid for the beta test set which is $1200.
Awesome, because this is something I really want!



BTW I don't think there will be a big problem getting 20 people when the demo doors are in for people to see.
I thought we had to put some money down before then?

[J. Fast]

I thought we had to put some money down before then? When I find out what the new asking price based on current number of people in the GB is I'll get the deposit information. We're only a few weeks out on this thing.


If you would post up on NorCal3s.com and SoCal3s.com i'll vouch for as a seller i know there are people who WANT this badly at that price they'd jump.

-dLs-

Just point them to here dLs.

Jeremy

[motomaniac06]

Any updates? I might be interested in these

[IPD]

did anything ever come of this?

*side note*

i bought my scootie2 from chaser back in 06. i wonder why it's easier to get them to make doors for us than to have them update the scootie2 mold so that it's actually better (straighten the vents, increase motor clearance, add some eyelids, secure fasteners on the vent mesh, etc). i'd be first in line to buy another one if they updated the molds like that.

[Permanent grin]

Interested to hear what the price is going to be and what the fitment is like as this is definitely something I need to be looking at.

André

[IPD]

i thought your dr1400 car was going to be a daily. you want to put full CF doors on your daily driver? no offense, but you are batshit crazy.

[Permanent grin]

It is going to remain a daily driver. Why do you say cf doors are crazy. Chris Dempsey has them over here. They will be sprayed in with the rest of the car. I'll probably have the front and rear wings remodled at the same time, making them 2" wider each side to accommodate the 18x11's fitted with either 315/35/18 or 335/35/18 rubber all round. For now, I'm just going to get the arches rolled out by 2" inches just to stay road legal.

I'll also be looking to fit a cf rear hatch as well. Anyone got any experience of a cf moon roof? I've heard they can blow off unless you rivet them in.

Also I would be interested in cf side skirts something like the skirts on the Veyron. If you look closely, they sweep from inboard at the front to outboard at the back, to remove air from under the car and create down force!

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvrMWyd81AxAGfMBf5mFHDglXZCREWr UWtxG4bE6jiSX932oWOvw

André

[IPD]

skirts, hatch and hood are one thing. cf doors on a daily is like riding a motorcycle without a helmet, imho. NOT a good idea.

[Permanent grin]

It's going to be roll caged out to stop the chassis twisting! If anything, I'll have more protection rather than less because of the side door bars.

André

[mb7050]

i thought your dr1400 car was going to be a daily. you want to put full CF doors on your daily driver? no offense, but you are batshit crazy.

i think he is mad wise man.

[green-lantern]

IIRC he is getting a set but I'm not sure about the group buy. I'm interested but I want to see how his turn out 1st.

[Checkered vr4]

J.fast, have the test doors made it state side yet?

[J. Fast]

No they have not, along with a number of other parts :( . Hopefully they'll come though. I was actually thinking about hiring a starving college artist. Prolly could score some nice pieces that way, and it would likely be completed.

As far as the group buy thing. Test fit first... for sure!

Which BTW, who here can point me in the right direction to make some carbon fiber repairs? Exposed fabric, chipped edges, and damaged resin kinda sorta thing? I chipped a corner on my spoiler and had to do some edgework to reshape my hatch. Don't want to put them on till it's fixed.

[green-lantern]

No they have not, along with a number of other parts

Bummer! I was just wondering about this yesterday.

[95gto]

Which BTW, who here can point me in the right direction to make some carbon fiber repairs? Exposed fabric, chipped edges, and damaged resin kinda sorta thing? I chipped a corner on my spoiler and had to do some edgework to reshape my hatch. Don't want to put them on till it's fixed.

If you are talking about wet layup cf any place that does fg work should be able to do the work for you. Its pretty much the same pricinpal but you have to concern yourself with the finished appearance of the fabric under the resin. Other than that the big challenge lies with sourcing the correct resin for the job. Knowing if your parts use an epoxy or poly resin would be a good first step.

[92RT-TT]

Any more information on this? I'd love a set of CF doors on my next build

[green-lantern]

Seems like every time I start thinking about these this thread pops up. I was just searching yesterday.

[92pearltt]

For 1000 bucks I am definitely down for a set of doors, although this will probably end up like every other carbon fiber door group but.

[dbest671]

Well if they fit anything like their craptastic CF engine bay covers... you'll be pissed trust me ;)

[92pearltt]

hey J fast can we get an update on this.

[ChargerX3]

hey J fast can we get an update on this.

Ive got a pretty good guess.

[zba857]

soo first quarter of 2013?

[92pearltt]

Its too bad this died, just like every other time someone tries to get these made.

[J. Fast]

They exist... here's info by subscription.

My 3sgto.org Carbon Fiber Door Group Buy... they are here. - US3S Dodge Stealth and Mitsubishi 3000GT Forum (http://www.us3s.org/freeforum/showthread.php?t=9331)

[J. Fast]

Any interst in a round 2? I'll make another run if the interest is out there.

[Roybatty]

Looks sweet. What kind of weight saving?

Sent from garage

[Matt_Jagg7]

I will take a set of doors for the price of $1000.

BTW how are their hoods? And who make a rear hatch and fenders in CF?

3000GT 94-99 : Chaser Aerodynamics, LLC. (http://www.aerokits.net/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=78_218)

[HilbillyHomeboy]

the original GB price was $1200. Unfortunately, that's what it cost the company to build and manufacture this set. Plus import duty tax. These doors are going to retail for $2g + shipping, plus duty, so around $2500 a set.

The GB price is $1800 plus paypal fees, plus shipping for the first original shipment that I threw down a deposit on. After that the GB is off till the next shipment comes in (in two years) LOL.

Jeremy, you need to edit your 1st post with current pricing.

Jeremy

[Erron Spalsbury]

Their hoods are pretty decent. I have one on my car and it fits pretty nice. A wee bit out of spec (a few mm's here and there) but overall a nice product.

[anyonebutme]

Their hoods are pretty decent. I have one on my car and it fits pretty nice. A wee bit out of spec (a few mm's here and there) but overall a nice product.

Probably no worse than my Deft hood, honestly. I've never seen a hood or body part actually bolt on these cars, even the "good" early Cianci viper hoods required a tweek or two on lots of cars.

[J. Fast]

Forum users. A new thread will be started should there be further interest. The first run of doors has been spoken for and is being quality fitted by racing professionals and a qualified site vendor.

[J. Fast]

I updated the first post, Jeremy.

All... Additionally, we did not go thru CFH as originally discussed for the development and production of these doors.

[green-lantern]

Would love to see them on a car with a review.