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futurevr4man
07-21-2014, 10:00 PM
The following is what my mom wrote on a retirement forum she is on. It is mainly full of engineers (which is what I am). I know this place has a lot of engineers on it too, so I would appreciate the input. Thank you!



I am looking for some advice from some of the engineers on the forum. My son graduated with his mechanical engineering degree last year. He was offered and accepted an engineering position with an auto parts manufacturer in a little, tiny, redneck town in the state we live in. He enjoyed his job but hated where he was living. There is absolutely nothing in that town for twenty-somethings to do. He is very athletic and loves to play all kinds of sports, likes to go out and hang with his friends....you know how twenty-somethings are

This year he was offered a position with another auto parts manufacturer in a much larger, metropolitan area (out of state) doing essentially the same thing he was doing but at a much higher salary and a more "fun" place to live. He started work there at the beginning of June. He says he doesn't care for the company and the job is *meh*.

He is now receiving a lot of contacts from head hunter type people offering him all sorts of opportunities - like working in the aerospace automation industry (across the country from us) as well as other more mundane type industries (in the state - actually in the same town we, his parents, live in). He gets approached on an average by someone every 2 weeks for the past couple of months.

My question to those of you who have worked in the engineering industry - what looks good and what looks bad on a resume? He's only been on his new job for about 7 - 8 weeks. Is job hopping, even to something better, seriously frowned upon or is it expected in this industry? Having no experience in the engineering world, we are at a loss of what to advise him when he asks what he should do. Does anyone have any advice to share?

Thanks

Boost4VR4
07-21-2014, 10:54 PM
Job hopping is totally normal and most places expect it to happen. I am an engineer in a different field and the employee longevity for my type of work is 1-2 years tops. I say job hop away and keep increasing your worth. The more systems and processes that you learn and familiarize with the more valuable you become. I say at least stick it out at least 6 months and take the next highest paid job while you can.

Jimvr4
07-21-2014, 11:13 PM
I've been an engineer for 30 years. Had a couple of 6 month stints both of which did not turn out as expected and better opportunities came along.

Alex3000gt
07-21-2014, 11:16 PM
Job hop, then delete this current place off of your resume. In the future, a 4-6 week position will only draw negative questions and attention during an interview.

Which automotive supplier do you work at now? Where are you going? PM me if necessary.

I worked at Denso in Southfield, Michigan. Also have a BSME.

futurevr4man
07-22-2014, 07:32 PM
I am at Tenneco now. It is an old Delphi/GM plant. I have come from the world of Toyota based manufacturers, this is an American company though.

It's not a 'bad' job per-say... the best way to explain it is, it is a plant with a LOT of room for improvement. It has a piss poor mindset and everyone hates their jobs.

I am in a pivotal position within my group, they pay pretty well, I have a lot of responsibility (which can be a bad thing, but can also be a good thing if you play your cards right) and it has potential for me to travel around a bit which I desire to do.



The issue with hopping from my current job is that I have a year lease on my apartment and I have a 2 year contract with my company for my signing bonus and I have to pay it back if I leave. I enjoy where I live - so no issue there. Just such a strange situation to be in. I would ALMOST rather just be stuck where I am... then I would be forced to be content, rather than always thinking the grass is always greener.

j2k4
07-22-2014, 07:48 PM
I am at Tenneco now. It is an old Delphi/GM plant. I have come from the world of Toyota based manufacturers, this is an American company though.

It's not a 'bad' job per-say... the best way to explain it is, it is a plant with a LOT of room for improvement. It has a piss poor mindset and everyone hates their jobs.

I am in a pivotal position within my group, they pay pretty well, I have a lot of responsibility (which can be a bad thing, but can also be a good thing if you play your cards right) and it has potential for me to travel around a bit which I desire to do.



The issue with hopping from my current job is that I have a year lease on my apartment and I have a 2 year contract with my company for my signing bonus and I have to pay it back if I leave. I enjoy where I live - so no issue there. Just such a strange situation to be in. I would ALMOST rather just be stuck where I am... then I would be forced to be content, rather than always thinking the grass is always greener.

Get busy and change the culture where you are, then.

Enlist allies and get cracking.

Be a preacher.

lawdogg
07-24-2014, 02:14 PM
As you know I'm a BSME who bailed and went to law school. Best decision I ever made, but not what you're asking. I wanted instead to drop some advice from a coworker about working in a company like the one you describe working in -- you can't change the whole place, but you can take the things you are responsible for, and perfect them with a smile. Your positive attitude and work quality may spread subconsciously throughout, maybe slowly, but if there's a shift in corporate philosophy and attitude, it will be a positive and rewarding contribution that you will have had fun making. Best of luck.

CoopKill
07-24-2014, 03:11 PM
^^That^^

Look at your place as an oprortunity to gain worth if tolerable. As mentioned the wider your exposure, the more worth you have. I would also agree with the 6 month minimum before jumping ship.

j2k4
07-24-2014, 07:42 PM
As you know I'm a BSME who bailed and went to law school. Best decision I ever made, but not what you're asking. I wanted instead to drop some advice from a coworker about working in a company like the one you describe working in -- you can't change the whole place, but you can take the things you are responsible for, and perfect them with a smile. Your positive attitude and work quality may spread subconsciously throughout, maybe slowly, but if there's a shift in corporate philosophy and attitude, it will be a positive and rewarding contribution that you will have had fun making. Best of luck.

You said it better than I did, Ryan. :wink:

futurevr4man
07-25-2014, 05:03 PM
I have done, am doing, and continue to do what you all have described. This thread isn't about if I should quit this job because it stinks, it's about if I should look into these job offers I'm getting, and if I find one I think is a step up, will it hurt me to take the jump?

I never imagined I would be getting offers every week/two weeks! I am concerned that this won't hold out and in a few years, if I decide I definitely want to leave, there won't be all these positions hiring. It's one of the few times where having options is creating more turmoil in my mind haha!