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2fnloud
03-07-2014, 06:58 PM
Hello gang, I am asking for straight honest opinion on how these turned out:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/2fnloud/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5745_zps613e32c7.jpg~original (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/2fnloud/media/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5745_zps613e32c7.jpg.html)
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/2fnloud/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5746_zps839d2274.jpg~original (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/2fnloud/media/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5746_zps839d2274.jpg.html)
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/2fnloud/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5747_zpscb5776bc.jpg~original (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/2fnloud/media/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5747_zpscb5776bc.jpg.html)
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/2fnloud/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5748_zps5e4a82b8.jpg~original (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/2fnloud/media/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5748_zps5e4a82b8.jpg.html)
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/2fnloud/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5749_zps1d86c4e1.jpg~original (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/2fnloud/media/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5749_zps1d86c4e1.jpg.html)
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/2fnloud/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5750_zpsa89a6b99.jpg~original (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/2fnloud/media/1994%20Dodge%20Stealth/Audio%20%20Video/A%20Pillars/PICT5750_zpsa89a6b99.jpg.html)
Would you use them or have them redone?
HilbillyHomeboy
03-07-2014, 07:09 PM
I saw them on FB and wasn't going to comment, but since you're asking...not a fan at all. The darting and seemingly random stitching looks very odd, and amateurish. Sorry.
Jeremy
CoopKill
03-07-2014, 07:16 PM
I agree, great idea that missed the mark.
TT4ME
03-07-2014, 07:20 PM
I wonder if there is another material that could do the job without any seams. It appears that the current selection is quite rigid.
2fnloud
03-07-2014, 07:40 PM
The seams should of been like this:
http://static.ed.edmunds-media.com/unversioned/img/long-term/misc/Cruze%20longtermer%20seat%20seam-thumb-717x478-76765.jpg
2fnloud
03-07-2014, 07:41 PM
I will be contacting The Miami Corporation (the place I bought the material) for different options.
stealthee
03-07-2014, 07:49 PM
Is there a way to do it without the stitching? Similar to the factory leather wrapped pillars? I don't know how that would work though with the way the pods stick out unless it was stretched or something.
I think they'd look better with the gauges installed, GU, but I think you've been hewing to a higher standard everywhere else.
Possibly the idea could be refined with a different, more elastic fabric, but I think I would be more inclined to mold the pod to the trim smoothly, then see if you could get a color-match with, oh, plasti-dip or something.
Maybe take the interior quarter-trims down and finish them the same way to get a texture match?
If you could get the color close, I think that would be pretty nifty.
2fnloud
03-07-2014, 07:53 PM
Is there a way to do it without the stitching? Similar to the factory leather wrapped pillars? I don't know how that would work though with the way the pods stick out unless it was stretched or something.
With a shape THAT complex stitching can not be avoided I am afraid.
2fnloud
03-07-2014, 07:59 PM
I think they'd look better with the gauges installed, GU, but I think you've been hewing to a higher standard everywhere else.
Possibly the idea could be refined with a different, more elastic fabric, but I think I would be more inclined to mold the pod to the trim smoothly, then see if you could get a color-match with, oh, plasti-dip or something.
Maybe take the interior quarter-trims down and finish them the same way to get a texture match?
If you could get the color close, I think that would be pretty nifty.
Kevin I am holding out final decision with pictures of them in the car with gauges installed.
Kevin I am holding out final decision with pictures of them in the car with gauges installed.
Yeah...I think they'd look better that way - they need that visual context, and the gauges just have to be in the pod.
Actually, though, unless the new gauges are gonna be there tomorrow, do you have just any old thing to throw in there?
FeaRpb
03-07-2014, 08:41 PM
I hate it.
BUT
I hate all pillar mounts.
CoopKill
03-07-2014, 08:45 PM
I don't think oem pillars are actual leathee. That is how the get away with it.
Also there are much thinner leathers out there that would clean things up as well.
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CoopKill
03-07-2014, 08:47 PM
Talk with a western leather tool man. I am sure that can be done with no seems, but may involve tools you do not have.
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2fnloud
03-07-2014, 08:54 PM
I didn't wrap those Bill
CoopKill
03-07-2014, 09:09 PM
Ok, just saying talk with a saddle maker they can do this unseemed.
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green-lantern
03-08-2014, 07:58 AM
If the stitching was straight it would look good. It's not straight and it would bug the hell out of me.
2fnloud
03-08-2014, 08:25 AM
If the stitching was symmetrical, I would be happy, the two areas that are really off in symmetry are the faces of the pod where the gauges will mount. With the gauges installed you will not see it.
DrGonzo
03-08-2014, 10:04 AM
I could deal with the stitching but those bands they wrapped throw it way off. The stitching on the pods themselves wouldn't be to noticeable with the gauges installed. The one without the pods looks good with just the tweeter mount. I also hate gauge pods and got rid of mine a couple years ago. Your right though, there is not going to be a way to wrap that without stitching it but whomever did this job did not take the right approach. You should be able to wrap the whole thing and only need to stitch the circular part account the opening of the gauges themselves. I think it was DuTTch that had a new pod built that sits on top of the stock 3 gauges. Stitching looked great on that thing. Everything needs to be double stitched when it comes to leather.
http://www.classicsofttrim.com/images/spotlight-stitch.jpg
green-lantern
03-08-2014, 12:28 PM
tweeter mount.
I wondered what that was.
2fnloud
03-08-2014, 12:31 PM
I could deal with the stitching but those bands they wrapped throw it way off. The stitching on the pods themselves wouldn't be to noticeable with the gauges installed. The one without the pods looks good with just the tweeter mount. I also hate gauge pods and got rid of mine a couple years ago. Your right though, there is not going to be a way to wrap that without stitching it but whomever did this job did not take the right approach. You should be able to wrap the whole thing and only need to stitch the circular part account the opening of the gauges themselves. I think it was DuTTch that had a new pod built that sits on top of the stock 3 gauges. Stitching looked great on that thing. Everything needs to be double stitched when it comes to leather.
http://www.classicsofttrim.com/images/spotlight-stitch.jpg
Actually there are three sets of stitching in that picture
DrGonzo
03-08-2014, 02:32 PM
LOL.... The type of stitch it called a double stitch cause when it's done you see the two stitches.
You sew the two pieces together "Open Seam", then fold the seam down with glue or something and roll them flat.
http://www.craftsy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/IMG_3578.jpg
Then you sew each side to make the double stitch.
A lot of leather stuff is done this way cause it is strong. I have a firedn that does leather work and showed all this to me some time ago.
FeaRpb
03-08-2014, 03:10 PM
This thread is to fancy for me.
futurevr4man
03-08-2014, 04:22 PM
I like the idea, I do not like the execution.
green-lantern
03-08-2014, 09:42 PM
This thread is to fancy for me.
http://i.imgur.com/AcKlmbd.jpg
2fnloud
03-09-2014, 06:22 PM
Well, it looks like leather is going to be 380ish.
Oy.
That's up there. :sad:
Boost4VR4
03-10-2014, 12:37 AM
You need a different material to achieve what you are looking for. Take it to a place that lays vinyl on dashboards and have them lay a nice textured vinyl on these with the pods in place. They should be able to match the texture and color of the existing vinyl in the car. Then you would have a OEM looking A-Pillars.
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