Not bad as a RWD car

[spraynpray]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0udZgpP5DY

[blindmist]

It still looks a little funny with how long our cars our compared to say a 240 or so.

[Lithium]

My next project..........

[spraynpray]

i would have to call this one a win personally, but you are right blindmist it does look a lil off but i bet its fun as hell

[stealthee]

Drifting is retarded

[colt45 gto]

Drifting is retarded

only if you cant do it :p

there is a certain art to drifting, an even better art to drifting a full AWD GTO. thats hard work on stock setup.

[stealthee]

Its still retarded and its not a sport. Yes there is an "art" to it, but its not interesting to watch in the slightest.

[colt45 gto]

ah we aint all young old grumps like you brian lol.

i like watching it i also like doing it, last time was a good few years back but hey maybe i was one of the first? try it you might find something fun ;)

[familyMAN]

Lovin' the jdm tails with wingless hatch.

[TheRedStealth]

nice!

[onebadmollafolla]

Its still retarded and its not a sport. Yes there is an "art" to it, but its not interesting to watch in the slightest.

I somewhat enjoy watching professionals do on-closed-road drifting. :p

[blindmist]

Its still retarded and its not a sport. Yes there is an "art" to it, but its not interesting to watch in the slightest.

I don't care who you are, when there are 4 of these things going side by side drifting, it is interesting. Don't even try to argue or you have no business turning a wrench or even liking cars at all!!

I still ruv you.

[stealthee]

Its not interesting. Its not a sport. I like real car events with real winners, not winners determined by judges. Its like figure skating. Sure it takes some skill but its boring as fuck.

[lat42MS]

I liked the video. Judging by the tire marks and the spectators, these kids have a nice secluded section they've used before. Although I'd never want a RWD 3S, it's kind of cool to see it slide.

[blindmist]

Its not interesting. Its not a sport. I like real car events with real winners, not winners determined by judges. Its like figure skating. Sure it takes some skill but its boring as fuck.

I would still like to see your reaction if you were in the driver seat doing it. I don't think it can be boring as fuck. And who said anything about judging? I don't give a shit what people think I am doing in my car, as long as I am having fun, which the goes back to the first sentence.

I love watching multiple cars do it together, just because its not boring to see 4 cars sliding sideways and inch apart at 90mph. There is no way that can be boring. Sorry. If it is, you have some issues that need to be looked at. lol.

And another analogy in response to figure skating, I don't think that drifting can be put into the same class as cheerleading either.

it is also like saying, "I don't like watching cars crash because there is no definite winner, you can only judge the crash"

How much skill does it take to destroy a car?

[stealthee]

NASCAR has 43 cars side by side doing 200 mph. Thats more interesting and I can't even get into NASCAR anymore.

Drifting is nothing more than cars burning up tires for no good reason other than they think they look cool. Its not cool in my opinion.

[blindmist]

NASCAR has 43 cars side by side doing 200 mph. Thats more interesting and I can't even get into NASCAR anymore.

Drifting is nothing more than cars burning up tires for no good reason other than they think they look cool. Its not cool in my opinion.

And how many people watch NASCAR just for the crashes? a lot. I turn it on and do something else and wait till something goes wrong.

Also, have you even been to a NASCAR race? They are a lot of fun.

[stealthee]

Nope. I have no real reason to go anymore. I used to watch it almost religiously. My favorite driver for several years was Rusty Wallace. When he retired I fell out of it. I still root for Smoke, but watch hardly any races.

[blindmist]

Nope. I have no real reason to go anymore. I used to watch it almost religiously. My favorite driver for several years was Rusty Wallace. When he retired I fell out of it. I still root for Smoke, but watch hardly any races.

Well my friend, you should come down here to Texas Motor Speedway in April. The real fun happens the night before the race. I have never seen so many titties in my life. Not even in a porno.

On top of that, most of them are still there for the crashes; of course they have their favorite driver too.

[Irocurstang]

Another bonus to having a RWD... DRIFTING

[Mean Green]

NASCAR has 43 cars side by side doing 200 mph. Thats more interesting and I can't even get into NASCAR anymore.

Drifting is nothing more than cars burning up tires for no good reason other than they think they look cool. Its not cool in my opinion.

Then you go try it. I am willing to bet I can drift my FWD Eclipse better than you can drift an SR20 power 240.

NASCAR is fun to watch when they are not on a oval course, but a course that actually has many turns because why...THEY WRECK...ALOT.

F1 < NASCAR

[colt45 gto]

i have a friend that brian reminds me of.....when we were 13 ish mally used to sound like an old fuddy duddy, when he reached 20 he was even worse. now he is almost 40 he grown out of trying to be perfect and realised its better to enjoy life and try new things than shun them all the time.

[TwIzTeD_3kGt]

Dude...he just called you a fuddy duddy...you gonna take that shit?

:lol:

[stealthee]

Then you go try it. I am willing to bet I can drift my FWD Eclipse better than you can drift an SR20 power 240.

NASCAR is fun to watch when they are not on a oval course, but a course that actually has many turns because why...THEY WRECK...ALOT.

F1 < NASCAR

Never said I could do it. I just said its not interesting to watch and that its not a sport as people claim it is.

[green-lantern]

Dude...he just called you a fuddy duddy...you gonna take that shit?

:lol:

:lmao:

It's definitely fun to power slide a car around but I'm with Brian, it's figure skating for cars.

[stealthee]

:lmao:

It's definitely fun to power slide a car around but I'm with Brian, it's figure skating for cars.

Thank you. I don't understand whats so hard to comprehend about that train of thought.

[Blue91SL]

Real drifting doesn't focus on judging, or points. It's about having control of your car up until the very brink of its abilities, and then pushing yourself AND the car farther.

[green-lantern]

Real drifting doesn't focus on judging, or points. It's about having control of your car up until the very brink of its abilities, and then pushing yourself AND the car farther.

I will give you the part about it will teach you to control the car but learning keep traction and not abuse the car and tires is how you truly make a car fast and preform.

[stealthee]

Exactly. Traction loss slows you down. If you want to have true control of your car, you'd never lose said traction.

[Blue91SL]

I won't go into the epic "Drift Vs. Grip" argument here, because it takes too damn long. I agree with the statement that drifting is normally not the fastest way to take a corner, but in certain situations it is more than useful. Dirt track cars drift around corners to get better lap times due to a lack of traction thanks to the surface they race on. If they were to try to take a turn in the grip style NASCAR uses, they'd either hit a wall, or end up slowing down so much that they get passed.
True, drifting by D1GP's or Formula Drift's standards is nothing but automotive ballet, but in its true form, it is honestly an epic thing to behold. Ask the 50-something year old Japanese men who started drifting on the mountains in Japan. It's more than just seeing how much smoke you can kick up.
That being said, as a child of the drag-racing school, I'm always a fan of a nice, big burnout. :)

[colt45 gto]

its not entirely about speed, its about control when the tires have no traction. some people like it some dont. my dad would see it the same way as brian tbh.

so yeah its not for everyone and just because its not up someones street it hardly makes it retarded.

[stealthee]

I won't go into the epic "Drift Vs. Grip" argument here, because it takes too damn long. I agree with the statement that drifting is normally not the fastest way to take a corner, but in certain situations it is more than useful. Dirt track cars drift around corners to get better lap times due to a lack of traction thanks to the surface they race on. If they were to try to take a turn in the grip style NASCAR uses, they'd either hit a wall, or end up slowing down so much that they get passed.
True, drifting by D1GP's or Formula Drift's standards is nothing but automotive ballet, but in its true form, it is honestly an epic thing to behold. Ask the 50-something year old Japanese men who started drifting on the mountains in Japan. It's more than just seeing how much smoke you can kick up.
That being said, as a child of the drag-racing school, I'm always a fan of a nice, big burnout. :)

It depends on the dirt track style racing. My brother races dirt track and loss of traction is his enemy.

Its still stupid. Why drift thru a corner when you can truely push your car to its limits and feel the G's of a hard corner at speed? I'll take G's over a smoke show any day.

[green-lantern]

Why drift thru a corner when you can truely push your car to its limits and feel the G's of a hard corner at speed? I'll take G's over a smoke show any day.

This is why I'm not really a fan. I want my car to hook up. Drifting is sort of doing the opposite of all the ways of getting around a track fast. Even with dirt track the guy with the most traction wins.

[Blue91SL]

It depends on the dirt track style racing. My brother races dirt track and loss of traction is his enemy.

Its still stupid. Why drift thru a corner when you can truely push your car to its limits and feel the G's of a hard corner at speed? I'll take G's over a smoke show any day.

Some cars (I instantly think of my old Mopars) can't handle taking corners at higher speeds without their ass-end slipping out. Sometimes letting the back tires break loose is the faster way through a corner.
FWD & AWD = G Masters
RWD = The "Where the hell did my traction go!?!?!" of motorsports (IMO).

[stealthee]

Proper tires and driving skill will let a RWD handle just fine in corners.

[green-lantern]

Moonshiners would weight the back of a car down to keep the car from kicking out.

[92RT-TT]

Haha and the conversation has turned to moonshiners... Hello Dukes of Hazard ;p

[91stealthrt2]

Nope. I have no real reason to go anymore. I used to watch it almost religiously. My favorite driver for several years was Rusty Wallace. When he retired I fell out of it. I still root for Smoke, but watch hardly any races.

Sounds like me, He was my favorite driver forever. (My name is Rusty as well which is why I liked him when I was really young). I haven't watched a whole race in at least 5 years.

[91stealthrt2]

This is why I'm not really a fan. I want my car to hook up. Drifting is sort of doing the opposite of all the ways of getting around a track fast. Even with dirt track the guy with the most traction wins.

Exactly. I've been racing some go karts on a clay oval track this year and most of the karts don't even drift much at all. The ones that do slightly are not any faster but it keeps the engine in the powerband.

[hotGTO]

Anyone who races on dirt has to know how to drift, and how to use it to keep lap times up when the traction just isn't there... track conditions can change in a matter of one heat race, even in the middle of a race, and you have to know how to drift wen the need is there... As for drifting on pavement, I see no need for a competition to see who can control a skid the best. But it exists because it's fun as hell to do, just like doing burnouts, donuts, and all that other tire destroying activity. Although a lot more control is needed for drifting... LOL