View Full Version : For Sale W5MG1 and W6MG1 transmission full rebuild kits MEMBER ONLY PRICING $750 shipped
J. Fast
05-22-2013, 02:28 AM
Yes, that is correct... I am crazy and offering AWD TT transmission rebuild kits for $750 each to 3sgto members only. I purchased an entire build lot of 20 kits and will offer these up for $750 each shipped contigious USA and $800 each for international. These are Getrag USA, Germany, and Japan parts. You will not source this rebuild kit cheaper anywhere else as very few vendors on site can spring for bulk buys like this. Again, these are rebuild kits with all bearings (except input shaft bellhousing bearings), all seals, needle bearings, and synchro packs. The parts are all new, never installed and have a 1 year MFG warranty. Paypal is fasttmotorsports@live.com / cell is 720-2seven0-94fourteen. I will not separate individual parts from kits.
One kit left as of 6/6/2013
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy163/JFastMotorsports/20130521_231125_zps15b4fb5f.jpg
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy163/JFastMotorsports/20130521_224945_zpscdd85b55.jpg
This is what you will be receiving... (1) End plug, All seals, Needle bearings, Shaft bearings w/matching races, End bearings, and synchros for gears 1,2,3,4,5,6(if applicable) and reverse.
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy163/JFastMotorsports/20130521_230213_zps5268066f.jpg
It is my hope that this comprehensive rebuild kit will benefit the platform and aid those DIY'ers that cannot afford to spring for $1500-$2000 transmission rebuilds. This is a $750 answer. When these kits are gone that will likely be my last run...
For my 3/S brethren... Cheers!
Jeremy
2fnloud
05-22-2013, 06:48 AM
In time will have at least one of these
Jeff V.
05-22-2013, 12:39 PM
If these are all Getrag parts, why do I see the Chinese knock-off brass syncro rings?
akotten
05-22-2013, 01:08 PM
If these are all Getrag parts, why do I see the Chinese knock-off brass syncro rings?
ditto
J. Fast
05-22-2013, 01:46 PM
I am very familiar with the trade laws of the United States of America. I clearly stated the countries of origin for the parts in this kit. My synchro packs say Toyota on them. The bearing kit is NPN Koyo and MHI Japan. The seals are Getrag Germany and USA. No China parts here...
15 KITS LEFT...
Chris@Rvengeperformance
05-22-2013, 01:49 PM
you are strongly implying the syncros are oem, when they are not.
Jeff V.
05-22-2013, 01:53 PM
I don't really care if they're made in Latveria. They're junk. I've rebuilt over 50 of these things. The few I used the brass syncros on, had shift problems. Those are NOT OEM Getrag parts.
The Toyota Supra parts you're using for the 1-2 assembly ARE Getrag parts. The all-brass ones for the other gears are not.
Jack's Transmissions has done more of these than I have, and they've even put together a page explaining the issue.
Synchro Types ? Jacks Transmissions LLC (http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/synchro-types)
J. Fast
05-22-2013, 02:03 PM
There are currently 2 synchro pack mfr's for the W5/6MG1 3S Getrag gearboxes. Transtar (USA) and Toyota (Japan). MHI Japan no longer builds. Toyota builds for them. I researched this extensively and PAID import duty from the MFR for my parts. If you dont like it go source your own kits from Jacks or Cobra Transmission and pay $1000.
Jeff V.
05-22-2013, 02:12 PM
These are Getrag USA, Germany, and Japan parts.
Transtar (USA) and Toyota (Japan).
So which is it? Getrag or "3rd party" ? Intentionally or not, you're misrepresenting what you're selling.
Toyota doesn't make Getrag syncros at all. They never did. Nor did Mitsu. They repackaged and sold OE GETRAG parts. Transtar makes a generic knock-off which doesn't work as well as OEM parts. I used to run Northbend Technologies, doing rebuilds for Supercar Engineering, and later as a solo venture. Jacks still does it. NONE of us like the knock-off syncros.
I don't have a business any more so I couldn't care less what you sell. Just be honest about it. Don't get all pissed off at me because your 'extensive research' falls apart under 30 seconds of scrutiny.
White lightning
05-22-2013, 06:55 PM
I would have to agree with Jeff V. and some of the others. I rebuild my own Tranny's and found the all Brass to be Questionable. But for who makes the ones you have for sell I don't know or can. But if Jack's or Cobra's, Supercar can sell the same kit with the OEM Steel with the linings for a 1000.00. Buy those for the all Brass ones will Cost U in the End. Never Go Cheap on Tranny Parts.
J. Fast
05-22-2013, 09:52 PM
So which is it? Getrag or "3rd party" ? Intentionally or not, you're misrepresenting what you're selling.
Toyota doesn't make Getrag syncros at all. They never did. Nor did Mitsu. They repackaged and sold OE GETRAG parts. Transtar makes a generic knock-off which doesn't work as well as OEM parts. I used to run Northbend Technologies, doing rebuilds for Supercar Engineering, and later as a solo venture. Jacks still does it. NONE of us like the knock-off syncros.
I don't have a business any more so I couldn't care less what you sell. Just be honest about it. Don't get all pissed off at me because your 'extensive research' falls apart under 30 seconds of scrutiny.
Ohh geeze guys, I'm not pissed, however, for the life of me... you guys are mistaken! The synchros in my kits are bronze, not brass. Again, they are not manufactured in China either. My synchro packs say Toyota on them. I clearly stated they are Getrag parts. It's quite obvious some posting in here haven't seen a bronze vs. brass synchro side by side, EVER! They look nearly identical. The bronze have a black hue in the shoulder. The brass are gold thru and thru. My kits have black in the shoulder and are gold. They are not the brass rings which are are yellow thru and thru.
So pop quiz time everyone except Jeff, (please PM me your answer, Jeff V) which one of these synchros depicted below is bronze and which one is brass? Clearly, some folks in here need to research things and do more real world building before they spot legit synchros and scream China.
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy163/JFastMotorsports/DSC02584_zps7a9fc011.jpg
For everyone else, these are good kits. Transmission rebuilds require attention to detail, Roger!
anyonebutme
05-23-2013, 12:35 AM
ohhh, quiz! I'm voting "they are both the same and the one on the left is just used, as depicted by wear witness marks".
J. Fast
05-23-2013, 04:42 AM
ohhh, quiz! I'm voting "they are both the same and the one on the left is just used, as depicted by wear witness marks".
LOL, Who are you quoting?
anyonebutme
05-23-2013, 10:34 AM
The quotation marks indicate that the entire phrase is my vote, lol.
Jeff V.
05-23-2013, 01:25 PM
Play your games all you like. The 3-R syncros are 3rd party parts, and the design is wrong. They do not have the correct type of friction surface.
Anyone who doubts me can read the Jack's Transmissions link and see for themselves.
The only Toyota/Mitsu/Getrag syncro parts you have are the 1-2 rings, which come from the V160 trans in the MKIV Supra turbo.
J. Fast
06-02-2013, 11:21 AM
ohhh, quiz! I'm voting "they are both the same and the one on the left is just used, as depicted by wear witness marks".
LOL you love quizzes, so it's time to give up the ghost... they are not the same bro. The synchro on the left is Bronze. The one on the right is brass. They do kinda look the same tho, haha :). The picture is from Jack @ Jack's Transmissions.
the design is wrong. They do not have the correct type of friction surface.
LOL, my gearbox has these synchros... now 700awhp. I rebuilt it in 2009 and have put over 80,000miles on it since that time and have had no less than 500awhp since then. The synchros are bronze (not brass)... and OEM syncros are bronze. There is nothing wrong with the friction surface. They sync MY REAL WORLD 800hp motor to the drivetrain just fine. If you don't know how to align synchro's for proper engagement then this kit isn't for you. Buyers will have to verify synchronization and possibly do some tweaking, lapping, and polishing to get ideal tooth height and engagement. That's part of every transmission rebuilding process with any synchros... It's an equivalent PITA process on par with filing ringlands and checking end gap.
Either way.... 2 Kits left as of 6/2/2012
Won't be offering these kits up for sale again.
Jeremy
Jeff V.
06-02-2013, 12:32 PM
. If you don't know how to align synchro's for proper engagement then this kit isn't for you. Buyers will have to verify synchronization and possibly do some tweaking, lapping, and polishing to get ideal tooth height and engagement. That's part of every transmission rebuilding process with any synchros... It's an equivalent PITA process on par with filing ringlands and checking end gap.
One which can be avoided entirely if you buy OEM parts with the correct design and materials.
Whatever. Your little exercise here is just showing that PT Barnum was absolutely correct. More power to you.
mehrshadvr4
06-03-2013, 05:18 AM
I didn't know 1st and 2nd synchros are same as v160 transmission.
IcelandGTO
06-05-2013, 06:30 PM
You got messages Jeremy
J. Fast
06-05-2013, 06:59 PM
There's oneee left!
J. Fast
06-05-2013, 07:03 PM
I didn't know 1st and 2nd synchros are same as v160 transmission.
Yep... We also share parts with Hyundai, Porche and Audi. Synchros, end bearings, seals, and springs to name a few.
J. Fast
07-26-2013, 08:20 PM
Last kit is SOLD!
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